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Date Posted: 19:00:32 06/13/04 Sun
Author: Rick
Subject: To: '64 on the #'s
In reply to: Sader Fan 's message, "Interesting Football Recruiting Story" on 23:05:11 06/12/04 Sat

Remember, the data is for the 2002 football season....which AIR, had two lousy weather weekends affecting most everyone with home games in the northeast.

They had 5 home games where the largest 'stated' crowd was 7,368 ( Dartmouth ) and the smallest 1,562 ( HC ). The 5-game average was 5,527. They did not go to the play-offs. Do you happen to recall HC's per game home attendance in 2002 ?

Their tix prices are inexpensive -

Res. Season = $45/$20 ( adult/child )
GA Season = $25/$10
Res. Game = $10/$5
GA Game = $6/$3

If - IF - they had/have 4,000 season tix sales = around $160-180,000 for that season ( stadium capacity = 10,221 ).

Their 'Colgate Athletic Council' booster club appears very active....2 golf outings ( one in Boston ) surely with some amount of 'corporate participation', a few dinners, phonathons....and membership has I believe 4-5 'levels'. Their site doesn't roster member #'s per level. It also doesn't state what % of the funds raised from these outings/dinners/phonathons goes to the football program.

Lacking insider info, it's hard to get a handle on how their accounting/sources of 'football revenue' is so dramatically higher. Since this is official submitted data to a government agency ( a watchdog for Title IV ? ), I can't see how some form of 'voodoo' economics or suspect creative accounting is at work here....why/what's to be gained/risked by Colgate if they tried that ?

They must have realized the $3 million + somehow.

Of equal note is Colgate's football 'expenses' being nearly $600,000 more in 2002 than HC's.

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[> Re: Interesting Football Recruiting Story -- Observer, 19:14:30 06/13/04 Sun

At the risk of sounding redundant, isn't the info set forth in the previous posts in this thread one of the reasons why many posters support the move to a more "high profile"
league in all sports, particularly mens' and womens' hoops?
Seems the only way to go if the admin wants to 1)continue to sponsor the same number of varsity sports, 2)remain competitive, 3)keep football, 4)stem the tide of athletic red ink, 5)not participate in directed athletic giving or permit booster clubs and 6)not increase the tuition/room and board burden on the current students and their parents to compensate fro athletic program costs/losses. Perhaps, the even-numbered items are not their concerns.

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