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Subject: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2025, 05:07: pm

AV, so I called our teenager's mom yesterday because I just couldn't stand not knowing how she is doing. The young lady has stopped taking her metamucil and she too is having missing underwear in the laundry. Mom is randomly calling Home Health Care to have two of their nurses come about twice a month at a time unaware to the daughter so they know she will be home to get her cleaned out. They have not always sent the same two staff to give her the enemas and there has been a young male nurses aide that has come to help with the enemas. They take about three hours because she has to have a soup suds enema and two rinse enemas. I know this has to be devastating for our young lady because she so hated those first enemas Home Health Care gave her. I told mom to send her over here and I will clean her out so we will see what happens. I cried so hard when I heard she has had this set back. It is so hard to break them when they are older and have been holding for so long.

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[> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Friday, July 04, 2025, 09:14: pm

Shelly,
That is heartbreaking.
My only advice at this moment is when you do see her, sit down with her and now have a heart to heart talk with her and don’t hold anything back. She is either going to have to take responsibility for making sure her bowels move, or come see you for a cleaning out, or go through the trauma with the home health care. Her taking responsibility is the ultimate goal. Also, ask her what happened, be like a counselor, and try to understand why this set back occurred. Of course let her know you are there for her to help her.

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[> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Diane
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Date Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2025, 05:00: pm

Shelly I hope she will board with you again for this next school year so that you can get a daily bowel movement from her and a weekly enema.

Even more upsetting than her regression to holding again is the volatile relationship she has with her mother. You have been more of a role model and parent influence to her in just a few weeks than sadly her mother has been so far in her life.

But as awful as the Home Health Care enema clean outs are for her I am glad she is getting cleaned out regularly. It is the best case of a bad situation.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Kitten Paw
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Date Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2025, 05:36: pm

Yes I can tell you she is super hating a male nurse giving her the enemas and then having her on the toilet for three hours. Especially if he is young and cute. I freaked out so bad having to have a male Dr. for my pelvic exam and fitted for my cervical ring. Guys go to school to be Doctors or nurses so they can do things to naked girl. Deny it if you want to but it's a fact. Since she moved back home for the week days after school got out in May she has probably had at least three enema sessions if mom is ordering them twice a month. She will be back Shelly. You only give her a single enema once a week. She will be back this month.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2025, 09:11: pm

Kitten Paw you are psychic. She texted me out of the blue today asking if my two boys still get their enema on Monday eve. and then Wednesday eve. I told her they do. She wants to come over tomorrow eve. for the little ones bath and enema. I think it is her way of getting back to her clean outs here instead of at home from Home Health Care and the male nurse assistant. In any event I'm going to clean her out tomorrow also as soon as she gets here unless she has been cleaned out in the last few days. Like you said, she is coming back.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Monday, July 21, 2025, 06:18: am

Shelly,
That is so great to hear. Yes, she is using the door of your sons getting enemas to make her way back to you. Your boys are going to be so excited to see her. And then if she decides, give them their enemas on their days. She is trying to get way from the home health of course and back to where she feels comfortable. Keep us posted.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Monday, July 21, 2025, 09:45: am

Yes AV, she had gotten so good anxiety wise in accepting her enemas from me. She didn't look forward to her enemas but I could tell in the mornings after that she was so full of energy and appetite and in such a good mood with her tummy feeling empty and fresh. Enemas to me always made me feel clean and fresh for a day or two. Can't explain it. It's a girl thing I guess. So I'm going to text her and tell her to come mid afternoon because I 'just want to check you too'. That's going to just leave it open to what I mean about that. But she will understand she will likely get an enema too. How she responds to my text will tell me what she is thinking about wanting her clean outs here from me.

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[> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Monday, July 21, 2025, 07:51: pm

Shelly,
So good to hear.
I hope she comes, not only for her sake, but for your boys. I love her and I love spending time with her and she loves spending time with them and it’s just good bonding. So hopefully she will come and just make him happy.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Monday, July 21, 2025, 07:55: pm

That comment got so missed up thanks to auto correction as you type so fast and don’t do a good job of double checking.

So good to hear.
I hope she comes, not only for her sake, but for your boys. They love her and love spending time with her and she loves spending time with them and it’s just good bonding. So hopefully she will come and just make them happy.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2025, 07:19: am

Well she didn't respond to my text telling her to come early because I was going to check her too. Figured that meant she wasn't coming because she never ignores my texts. But, she showed up around 6:30 which is about the young one's bath time and then enema. I held my disappointment and anger but after she got the little guy in the tub I got her pants down and over my leg telling her I texted her I was going to check her. He rectum was full and her underwear although cleaned had light stains from previous smears. After she got his enema done and put to bed she got cleaned out too. I didn't lecture. I bit my tongue. She wanted to get sassy with me and resist a clean out but I nipped it immediately and we got her cleaned out. She was packed full. I then went in my bedroom and cried. I fell so bad that she as gone back to holding and smearing. Just feel defeated!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2025, 08:41: am

Shelly,
Don’t feel bad. She came. And hopefully she will come back Wednesday for Jr.
Maybe during that time, you two can talk heart to heart and see what she is thinking and what she wants to do.
I think she misses you and wants to gently make her way back without saying it.

Were the boys happy to see her?

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2025, 09:09: am

AV they were over the moon. But my 6 year old went to bed super pissed off at me. He begged me to let him have his enema last night too. He didn't want to take a chance she won't come give him his enema tomorrow night. But it was too late and I told him she was getting an enema also so there just wasn't time. He went off on me telling me she is a big girl now and only little kids need enemas because they don't know how to go to the bathroom like they are supposed to. I told him I got cleaned out regularly all the way through High School and he will too. That really lit him up! He said he isn't having any more enemas unless she comes and gives them to him because I am mean about enemas. I just don't take sass but I'm as gentle with them as they let me. So here we go again. I was so enjoying not getting resistance at enema time. They didn't fight me, they just gripe to me about enemas.

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Shelly
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2025, 09:18: am

He would be even more angry with me if he knew I was telling people his is only 6 years old. I don't always do a good job of proof reading either.

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AV
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2025, 05:32: pm

Shelly,
I do hope she does come back tomorrow for his enema. Teenagers are so selfish but I do hope she is not that way. The boys sure love her. Plus it will give you two an opportunity to talk. Give her an opportunity to open up if she will. Your story about your kids and sitter is so special.

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AV
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2025, 08:23: pm

Shelly,
Please keep us posted.
This is so touching to me because how your boys love their sitter and I hope she never hurts their feelings. She may be crying out inside in her own way and I hope she does opens up to you and you two can talk.

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[> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2025, 07:29: am

I called her mom early yesterday to make sure she didn't schedule some enemas for her because I did it here. With their relationship as it is she may not have even known sitter came here Monday evening. So they haven't done a clean out on her for several weeks because it has made the daughter so combative and belligerent. She is considering putting her in a boarding school. She told me about the one she is considering. I won't mention it by name but it is basically run by a cult leader religious sect. I checked it out and it doesn't sound nice. And it has had some run ins with authorities for abuse on the children. Mainly corporal physical punishment, privileges lost, and strict hair and clothing use. And, she said she asked them specifically if they could handle her dirty underwear issue from withholding. They told her they have several children on a bowel program with rectal intervention and daily toilet schedules. I can't let her do that. She says she has bought several new pair of underwear for her because they seldom make it to the dirty laundry. She has little appetite and is losing weight. I'm crushed and so worried about her. My oldest is still pissed off at me that I didn't let her give him his weekly enema while she was here and that I told him he is in for many years of weekly clean outs. He has promised me the fights are back now for his enemas. So now he has gotten combative with me and I'm sure his brother will be soon to follow. I've got so much on my plate I'm upset about it. It's just an enema! I got them and they didn't kill me. She needs them and I feel they are good for my boys' health as well. I'm not backing down. When I was shopping for the deep enema nozzle I saw that Amazon has literally dozens of different manufactured enema bags and cans and pumps and such. And they say 300 sold this month. 250 sold this month. Over 100 sold this month. That's just Amazon. There are a thousand or more other places to buy enema equipment. These aren't all bought by adult sexual partners or coffee enema fanatics. Kids with encopresis or constipation are getting enemas, or just mom's who feel a regular enema clean out is good for colon health as they grow up and develop bowel habits that are atrocious.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2025, 08:24: am

Shelly I was a mom who got shaved and given enemas for all my labor and deliveries. It was the 1940s and '50s. The overwhelming majority of children of all ages then knew what a 3H or soapsuds enema or bulb enema was. Some think that kids don't get enemas now a days. The fact of the matter is the percentage of homes now that don't have enema equipment used on children may have gone down but I would argue with the explosion of population 80 years on and the recent statistics that indicate the high enema is making a come back that the actual number of children who have experienced a suppository or enema of some sort, yes including Fleet prepackaged, is larger now.

One of my grand daughters works in a mom and pop pharmacy in a small city. When they have a sale on Fleet enemas, adult and child size, they are sold out in the first two hours of the first day of the sale and when the next shipment comes while the sale is still on they last literally minutes only on the shelf. Parents will buy several at a time.

You have got to try to get your babysitter back with you. Do what it takes to sweet talk mom. If she is planning on spending thousands of dollars on boarding school you can offer her a sweet deal and still come out money ahead. You've got to get her back under your care. She doesn't need spankings and lost privileges. She needs a loving mom figure who understands her. And care about her.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2025, 08:33: am

Shelly,
I do hope you intervene somehow. Her mom doesn’t understand at all. She is making it worse. Would you be willing to bring her back in for the school year?
I hate to even suggest that. It’s too much responsibility.
Have you reached out to the sitter? I hope she comes and helps with jr’s enema but they are going to want her to come every week. So much is happening all at once with this situation not including everything else in life taking place. I hope all things work out.

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[> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2025, 06:57: am

Well she was a no show and she is not responding to my texts. Last night was one of those that you hope you don't have to repeat but I have a bad feeling. They only get swats on the butt and time outs when their fights go past yelling and screaming and hitting and kicking and get to throwing things. And when they turn that aggression and violence on me. The oldest got violent with me at bath time because it was enema night and after his bath is the enema. He bit me and that was the final straw. He got a bare butt spanking and two enemas and then his bath. A nice soapy enema with really warm water for good cramping and then a huge rinse enema! I have never been that angry at him. I was not proud of my actions but they were warranted. And now my 5 year old is mad at me for what I did to his brother. They both went to bed promising me they are going to their dad and some how get him to stop the enemas because I am the meanest mom on the planet.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2025, 08:56: am

Shelly,
I am sorry to hear that. It is time for a heart to heart talk with the sitter. One suggestion would be to share with her your sons feelings toward her and how much they love her. And then of course be a listener to understand what is going on with her, allow her to open to you and share.

I am sorry to read that she was a no show for jr’s enema night. That hurts a lot. And her not responding to your text. The boys think they can go to dad to stop the enemas. Ha.
There is so much more going on and you don’t need this happening. I hope this road smooths out. I would continue to reach out to the sitter. She is probably afraid you will check her again and she is avoiding everyone but she is actually making it worse on herself.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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AV
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2025, 09:00: pm

Shelly,
I hope things are working out. You and your children are still on my thoughts.
I do hope you’re able to speak with sitter and share how much your kids love her. And you two are able to have a heart to heart healthy talk.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Friday, July 25, 2025, 06:17: am

I know what she is going through. When I got into my teens and becoming aware of and interested in boy girl sexuality I was really getting resentful of my stepmom putting me on the toilet chair with a huge enema in me. I would sit there for the hour getting my enema back out wanting to get the courage to sass her and talk back and tell her I'm a big girl now and I don't want any more of your enemas. I had too much respect for authority of adults to do that. On the other hand I wanted so bad to get to give an enema to one of my siblings. Or at least get to watch them suffer their enema. She holds so she needs these clean outs. I'm giving her that experience of getting to give enemas. It has to be helping her emotionally in dealing with her own enemas at least a tiny bit. I think it would have made my own enemas a little easier for me and maybe I would have grown to look forward to them like my boys did and a couple of my siblings did. But she almost tried to get sassy with me. When I heard she had the little guy in the tub I walked in and got a glove and lube and a suppository. She looked at what I was doing and started to say in a sassy voice and tone 'I don't need to.....' I cut her off. I said "Zip it. Don't give me that tone. I've talked to your mom. I know more than you think. I told you I was going to check you". I'm sitting down on the toilet lid and pulling her to me by her arm and taking her pants down and then down over my leg. She didn't have a current smear in the underwear but there were old smear stains in it and they weren't tiny smears. There was stool right at her anus ready to smear. If she had sat on the toilet for even 3 minutes gravity would have taken over and peristalsis would have tried to make her empty. So disappointed. Got the suppository way up inside her and let her deal with that to empty for me and when she got the little guy to bed I had her enema ready. I just gave her one very warm huge enema. Told her to put her wipes in the waste basket and no flushing. She didn't say a word to me the whole time but she was clearly not happy. She was as packed full of formed poop that I have ever seen come out of her. It had to be at least six or seven normal size daily bowel movements that came out of her. We had a really hard time getting the enema all in her because she would start to clinch really hard and tell me she couldn't hold it in. A couple of really minor leaks even because she was so impacted. And such horrible smelling stool. It had been sitting inside her just fermenting for days. Then I went to my room and cried until my oldest went off on me because he couldn't have his enema. What a night!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Friday, July 25, 2025, 06:36: am

Maude I think you are right. The actual number of children today who are familiar with the traditional 'enema bag' is probably exponentially larger than in the 50s and 60s. One enema bag on Amazon that was shown said they had sold 4000 of them, that's three zeros, just that month. Even if only 10 percent of those bags were purchased by mom's for cleaning out their kids that's a lot of kids each month just from that one enema bag that get to have maybe their first ever enema. And many more to come. Enemas are often kept secret among family members. Even adults who are into coffee enemas for themselves don't share that information just casually with anyone. You and your family and my family might even be among the majority not the minority: a home with suppositories or rectal thermometers, enema bags, bulbs, Fleet packaged enemas, medical type one use enema kits. Kids bowel habits are atrocious in this country. A million or more kids who aren't getting clean out enemas could use them. I'm comfortable and confident with my decision to do regular clean outs. I took an enema last night before hubby got home just to try to calm myself down a little. And here I am way too early in the morning stressing about enemas, talking it out with you. It can't be wrong if a couple hundred thousand or more kids also got an enema in the last couple of days.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The missing underwear


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Date Posted: Friday, July 25, 2025, 11:45: am

Well part of the reason I am 16 and still get enemas is because my mom is a nurse at a clinic that specializes in kids up to 17 that won't or can't poop. Mostly won't poop are the ones they see. And they don't do laxatives. They tell the parents to take them home and give them an enema. Mom says only about half of them will do it. The other half don't come back to their clinic because they want magic or something for the pooping problem. And about twice a week she goes to some house to help give a kid their first ever enema. I sometimes get to go with her. It's a rodeo to give any kid who has never had an enema their first! I like the boys of any age because they are the real drama queens! At just mom's clinic and it is not a big clinic in a big city, they send at least 30 or 40 kids and mom's home each week to do an enema. Their first ever enema! But not their last! I don't dare get sassy or give mom back talk about my enemas because my dad likes to spank and if I gave her back talk I would get a good butt warming and then my enema. I get them sometimes anyway for other crimes. Got a good spanking and an enema last week for a minor sarcastic remark to him under my voice that he couldn't hear but knew I said something.

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Date Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2025, 01:16: am

Kitten Paw,
I don’t remember you saying so I will ask.
Does your mom have regular customers?
In other words, repeat children that she
goes and gives an enema to regularly?
I understand the purpose perhaps may
be the mom taking over but some may
not, so does your mom return?

What is your favorite drama queen enema boy story?
Details. What made this story the drama queen favorite?
How old was the boy?

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Kitten Paw
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Date Posted: Monday, August 11, 2025, 09:03: am

So mom is out of the enema giving business except for me. She quit the kids clinic and is working in a hospital now. Just nursing non-critical patients after surgery. They do mostly Fleet enemas if patients don't poop when they are supposed to and they make the nurses' aides do enemas and suppositories. The Registered Nurses are above giving rectal meds.

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AV
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Date Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2025, 04:38: am

Kitten Paw,
That is interesting about your mom. Change of scenery and all.
How are you doing?

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Kitten Paw
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Date Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2025, 08:23: am

Good. Got to go clothes shopping for school yesterday with Grandma and a cousin. Studying for drivers test even though dad says I can't have a car because I'm not 'responsible enough to have a car'. He doesn't trust me. Thinks I'm a space case.

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AV
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Date Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2025, 04:43: am

Kitten Paw,
Having that driver’s license will be an achievement.
Step 1.

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