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Subject: Re: the devil's dishpan? Author: tim [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 15:18:19 02/09/10 Tue In reply to: tim 's message, "the devil's dishpan?" on 09:43:11 12/31/09 Thu I doubt that anyone visiting here would have any confusion about the fact that you and I are on different pages, spiritually speaking. They would only have to read one of the thread's from start to finish in order to glean that we are on opposite sides of the fence. You are on the outside looking in (my forum is clearly established as a place of righteousness) and I am on the inside looking out (you can say it's the other way 'round if you want, but either way, no discerning visitor will be confused. The real difference between you and I, in God's eyes, is that I have accepted His forgiveness for my sins and have entered the sheep fold through the narrow gate (John 14:6). As long as there is breath in your lungs there is hope for your soul to be accepted as well! We don't get to heaven by striving; we simply accept what has been written and apply it to our own lives in the here and now. This doesn't happen by osmosis (such as 'the diffusion of fluids through a pourous partition'). We cannot be on both sides of the same fence and expect to be approved by those on either side. But if we acknowledge that there IS a fence (and i don't mean offence) then we have stepped one step closer towards crossing over! Oh, I may swing my leg back over the fence every now and then, in my zeal to be found approved, but when I come to my senses, I get back in the fold without delay! (you can just re-read this thread from the beginning if you get confused about that)! I can assure you this, with as much certainty as you proclaim that there is nothing past what we can see and touch in this life, I can tell you that I will not be going back, or even considering your point of view as a viable option for me, now or into eternity (as I said before, it is real for both of us, whether we accept it or not). The dividing line is clearly set and the more I learn about God through His Word, the more responsibility He gives me to make my stand in His righteousness clear. T.O. 2/9/2010 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: the devil's dishpan? Author: Bob [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:01:01 02/10/10 Wed That's it Tim, You think there is a fence and I don't. Show me were it is or better yet tell me why there has to be a fence at all. If everyone is welcome why do you need a fence? I wonder what it is you learn. Seems like the defining document is written in a way as to not specifically say anything. I wonder what you can actually learn from such a thing. Twisting words serves the twister usually. My grass is greener over here. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]