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Subject: Re: Once you get the Word Author: Shane [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:35:24 03/15/10 Mon In reply to: tim 's message, "Once you get the Word" on 10:09:29 03/01/10 Mon "Perfect love casts out fear". I suppose it would be safe to assume that only God is capable of perfect love. If that is the case, then is it a perfect love that threatens to burn you for all of eternity due to sin? Wouldn't perfect love also be unconditional love which means no exclusions? I also have taken note that Jesus never said to anyone;"You're going to burn for that." If anything He forgave everyone He met. Nor does He ever condemn anyone except the Pharisees and Sadducees who represented the religious systems of that time. There certainly are a lot of misinterpretations of Scripture out there. But then again, Christians don't want to lose their "special" status as their egos are tied into the Lord's approval. I call it egoistic spiritualism. There is nothing wrong with it, but it does produce a specific result namely separation from their brothers and sisters which is not mindful of "love one another". Those of you with children - can you imagine sending your kid to burn in hellfire forever because they were bad? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Once you get the Word Author: tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:05:26 03/15/10 Mon you could 'assume' it, but you know what assumptions can do to you and me. It just so happens that I was discussing this very issue today with the Lord, so I appreciate as always my visitors inquiries and especially those who have a familiarity with Scripture, as you do Shane. And these questions, from my study of Christianity, go way back to before Augustine's time when so-called followers of Christ argued with one another over issues of truth. Well, whatever is not truth IS a lie. If it can't be backed up in Scripture and carried to a subsequent conclusion then it must be thrown out and not even discussed amoung those who truly follow Christ, hence the name Christian. If you cannot identify yourself boldly without shame, guilt or condemnation to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, there is no point in further discussion on matters such as these. Because being a Christian is a matter of the heart and a personal decision that is between the individual and God Himself, there is no judgement allowed between those who boldly confess and those who beat around the bush. I believe this is what differentiates being a Christian from being a part of something called, Christianity. Just as in Jesus own day, it was those proclaiming to be 'in the know', or as bob puts it, in the club and those who were not yet fully convinced to join that created all the hoopla. Jesus came to put the religious ones in their place and through His death and resurrection opened the Way to everyone, including those who had already died witout Christ. This made Judaism just as dead a religion as any other, before or since. Jesus, as Messiah, opens the Way for all who would enter to the Kingdom of God. It is Christianity itself, not the Christ of Nazareth that allows infidels membership. Jesus proved, as a man that perfection (not flawlessness but maturity of faith) was possible. in the letter to the Collosians, Paul wrote that it was Christ in him that was his only hope of glory. Without the Christ in us, none of us has a chance at heaven. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]