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Date Posted: 08:53:02 03/19/02 Tue
Author: Adilbrand
Subject: Prophecy Example
In reply to: Adilbrand 's message, "Point by Point - Ha!" on 08:43:23 03/19/02 Tue

The prophecy I am going to use as an example is perhaps the best known of all the predictions in the Bible.

Isaiah 7:14-17: "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. "

Many religious scholars would interpret the passage as follows:

The author of Matthew quoted the Greek version of the Hebrew Scriptures. This version contains a translation error, namely translating a Hebrew word that describes a young woman of marriageable age to a Greed word that means virgin. They then obviously created a story in order to make the prophecy come true.

Isaiah's prophecy was that the child Immanuel was to have been born in 742 BCE, the first year of King Ahaz's reign. Ahaz, the king of Judah, faced the combined armies of Syria and Israel. Isaiah explained to Ahaz that he should not form an alliance with Assyria, telling the king that God would provide a sign: a young woman would conceive and bear a child who would be named Immanuel. The sign would have only have been effective if it happened almost immediately. It would not have been given a lot of support as a prophecy if more than seven centuries passed before it was fulfilled, long after King Ahaz' death. Why would Ahaz care about such a prophecy? The quote used to "prophesy" Christ's birth is taken completely out of context.

Luke 1 states that Mary would call her son Yeshua (Jesus in Greek). He is called Yeshua throughout the Christian Scriptures -- not Immanuel.

This analysis shows that Jesus, born to a virgin, was not prophesized by Isaiah, despite what New Testament authors and priests and pastors around the world would have you believe. Rather, Isaiah was referring to a young woman who gave birth to a son circa 742 BCE, a very normal occurrence, as a sign to King Ahaz. He predicted that she would call his name Immanuel. The prophecy certainly was unrelated to Jesus' birth.

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