Re: VH1's top 100 songs of the last 25 years: comments anyone? -- Adilbrand Noblesword's Hall of Warriors

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Date Posted: 11:52:03 06/20/03 Fri
Author: Xanthor
Subject: Re: VH1's top 100 songs of the last 25 years: comments anyone?
In reply to: Adilbrand 's message, "Re: VH1's top 100 songs of the last 25 years: comments anyone?" on 18:23:20 06/18/03 Wed

OK, a music discussion, I guess I should participate given my love of it, ok some of it, LOL!

I've probably got the biggest variety in my collection than most here. In this list I have a good bit, but most of my favorites are not here. I've got a lot of stuff from metal to rap, classical to classic rock, and bubblegum to protest rock.

I still feel this list has some serious problems. It is too biased to recent material. OK, last 25 years goes back to 1978 and just misses most of the best of KISS, excludes the Beatles, Zepplin, Motown. That really bites in my opinion. It also includes most of the Video age, given VH-1 sponsorship of the list, surprised?!? I don't like the timing in the cut-off since it precludes most of the good classic rock era bands. I'd set the bar back about 3 years at least, but then we'd need all of the Beatles, Doors, and Zepplin. Guess we'll work off of what little we're given.

There is also the matter that most music tends to repeat itself in some incarnation about every 25-30 years style-wise. Something new is usually added soundwise, and subject matter tends to bland and sell out more with each repeat, can anyone say bubblegum?

I think this is where some of the better songs were left out in place of lesser songs by some bands like U2, Micheal Jackson, etc. Basically the better video or more general appeal song got them the vote, driven by a mindless society and corporate demand for the shallow crap given.

Rap influence, yes it is that big unfortunately. I categorize rap's popularity to percussion and simple rhyming, which appeals to simple minded folk generally. I'm not much into rap as a whole, but I do like more of what is considered crude, mostly for the message or humor in some of what I do like of it. Eminem is a perfect example. Within the rap genre, he is huge for really not making all his songs sound the same and putting some emotion (granted usually dark) into it beyond, sex, sex, sex (OK, not a bad topic for an artist, but let's be a little creative please? also it's not as acceptable to puritan society and its damn limitations hence his controversial stand). Eminem is not afraid to poke fun at himself (must see the videos to note), which makes his appeal more drawing, even to me (gasp!).

I'm a huge metal fan and very little made it to the list. I can rattle off a dozen metal artists lacking. All the 80's were included and yet rap get's a lion's share of list? I guess all metal is GNR and Metallica, :P. Besides, who wants to talk about washed up hair bands, eh?

Let's see major genres listed, pop, rock, rap/hip-hop, bubblegum, and grunge although Mt HM's list is better. We could go on sub-categorizing it, but that would not gain us much than arguing the boundries of some songs/artists. A fair mix of what was popular, just not a good mix of what at good, LOL!

A few comments to specific list...and replies

A lot of what Adilbrand didn't like or know about, I do enjoy to a lesser extent usually.

Nirvana as #1? I would argue, but they were probably the biggest, most popular band from the 90's and more popularized by Kurt's death. Can we popularize some other artists, then?!? I'd volunteer a few, like Hanson! I love all three versions of Smells Like Teen Spirit for different reasons, grunge had it's place, Weird Al is GOD, and Tori Amos' version is the best (and the lyrics are understandable although more sexually charged).

Jackson should be up there in the list, but there are many other songs that better in my opinion.

GNR typified the overindulgence of the 80 metal/hair bands that were popular. Many of the unpopular ones were better musically, but didn't match GNR's great videos however.

The top 10 was like quota filling, who all can we make happy with this list and not piss off an entire group of people. Not a true top ten based on sales or air-play something logistical or something subjective like the most influential or best written songs. Most of this group didn't pick the best song by the artist.

The next 10 were big songs from artists from within each genre again, but this list was better representing the better song of the artists.

Of the rest, about 1/2 can be flushed, although popular, not the best songs of the last 25 years. The other 1/2 is good within each genre, just too wide a scope to properly classify.

I had to drop to #20 with ACDC to find a band in my personal top 5. Although Police/Sting is up there on my list overall, my list is metal/hard rock biased. Where was KISS, DIO, Ozzy Osbourne, Queensryche, Judas Priest? Hell, even Ozzy has a TV show and didn't make the damn list. My personal favorite metal band, Iced Earth, didn't make it either.

Not a single song by Styx, obviously this list is misguided, but they did clip out 1977 which is probably my favorite year of music to date (minus the disco of course!).

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