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Date Posted: 15:02:34 09/27/09 Sun
I copied this from Female First. It is really long but entertaining. This is a supposed insider who knows Brad and the situation behind the scenes with Brad Jen and Jolie. Read to the end, they tell you who they believe the "insider" to be. What is your take on all this Mystie?
The insider in red is Ian Halperin, he visits this site to check on stories. Hi Ian!
Brad and his 'love' can't talk right now, mostly because he doesn't not want her to be attached to this break up in any way, shape or form. So to protect her from any attention or blame, he's not communicating with her. He wants nothing pointing to her and wants to be able to honestly say that they haven't spoken in case any questions are raised. He loves her quite a bit, and has for quite some time. And it's the real thing because not talking for a year, not seeing each other for ages does absolutely nothing to the strength and the power of love they feel for each other. They always joked that they're the female/male version of each other and have so much in common that it's uncanny. They see each other for who they are, and complement each other.
[b]She is the one who is behind him starting the MIR Foundation[/b]. He made tons of references in Benj Button movie about her, his really good friend wrote the screenplay, and purposely put in references about her as a labor of love.
Ok now Brad if you are reading this, don't be angry at me for 'talking'. No one will believe me anyway since they can just boil me down to some delusional fan (or someone intentionally messing with them). I just need to hear the good news soon so the next phase of everyone's life can begin.[/quote]
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Posted on June 28, 2009 on the[b] Roosevelt Thread- [/b]same poster-
I'm not a Loon or a hag, (and I find those classifications both funny and disturbing), so I have no interest in this either way. I'm just typing what I've come to learn over the past little while.
Also another thing I heard...i[b]s that when Brad and Jen were talking in 06/07 (through another rough patch), Jen was the one who suggested he use his love of architecture to do something to help the city of New Orleans after Katrina. So the whole Make It Right thing could be because of Jen.[/b] psoted 6/28/09
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I know he loved Jen. Very much. And I know they had a special relationship, which is why, after all these years, they could even contemplate an intimate relationship again. The crappy thing about love is that it sometimes overpowers rational thought.
I don't know, I can't judge the situation because I'm not in it. None of us can. I know...and if there is ONE thing I do know it's this - Pitt's had a really really hard time over the past few years, life with Ange has NOT been easy. I heard she really hurt him numerous times (but the specifics I don't know), and Pitt has had to climb out of the hole that he was dug in. He's learned his lesson. All he wants now is a nice life, with someone who makes him be a better person.
I'm not a Loon or a hag, (and I find those classifications both funny and disturbing), so I have no interest in this either way. I'm just typing what I've come to learn over the past little while.
Also another thing I heard...is that when [b]Brad and Jen were talking in 06/07 (through another rough patch), Jen was the one who suggested he use his love of architecture to do something to help the city of New Orleans after Katrina. So the whole Make It Right thing could be because of Jen[/b]. psoted 6/28/09
I'm the 'insider' guest. I am sworn to secrecy because a relative is involved in the situation and they told me.
According to what I heard, they have met a few times but I don't know what happened during the meetings. There are no pics because they've done it under the radar, in situations where they knew they'd never be discovered. Once in the middle of the night while no one was around. They've been talking, as friends, since last year.
Remember, they were best friends for nearly a decade, and it's hard to turn that off just because they got divorced. They still love each other, as friends at the very least, and are there for each other if they need each other. It's usually Brad needing Jen, at least right now.
Does anyone remember the article that came out a week or so ago in a London tabloid where Ange was saying she can't imagine a life without Brad? Well, she didn't say she 'couldn't imagine', she said she 'can't imagine'. The tab writers are her 'friends', or she considers them to be. That article was nothing more than a broken hearted Ange crying to her tabloid 'friend' saying that she misses him, she can't imagine life without him, she doesn't like being alone this much, etc. She was lamenting over the break up...and threw in the 'amazing' part to try to entice him back.
This is done girls and boys. I don't know exactly what's going to happen with Jen, whatever happens, I just hope all parties are not hurt.
I am not comfortable discussing anything about the children because of their privacy. BUT I will say that they are lucky to have Jane as a gramma and would greatly benefit from having Jen as an active part of their lives.
Jane and Jen are still close, and probably always will be. Jane always said the relationship with her daughter in law was spiritual, and I know they love each other very much. When Jen lost someone close to her, Jane was there for her. From what I've heard of Jane, she's an extremely caring and loving person, and has always been a source of support for all of her kids' and their friends.
Standing up to the rumors/gossip is just one way of acknowledging it. So no one bothers. There is a fascination about Jen's private life, mostly because of a 10 year stint on Friends and the marriage to Brad. Tabloids smelled blood around the time of the break up, she became the jilted woman and people became emotionally invested in it. There was not much anyone could do about it...the public wanted it.
He said he did not want kids until he met Angie to take the heat off Jen. Plain and simple. There were many who were blaming her for the break up, saying she was the one 'denying' him kids. He just said that so people would stop blaming her for the break up.
You know, these people are actors. Part of their job is promoting their work, and the nasty bi-product is the tabloids. Acknowledging the nasty things in there is not a good thing...it just feeds the machine.
I read Rolling Stone's article when Brad was promoting CCOBB in December and I nearly projectiled. He was talking about how much he loves Angie, when at that point they were pretty much finished. I knew he was just trying to build her up because they both knew it was over and he was trying to be respectful. Everyone is trying to be zen master of the press, but it's not an easy job.
Not right. Only they know what is still between them and at this point they're not letting anyone I know in on what the plan is. But with everything I do know, it looks like they'll be spending more time together. Where it goes and what happens is up to them.
Jen was always Brad's rock, and once again, she's making it all better for him. I do know Brad is remorseful for what's happened, I do know he has learned from his mistakes and I do know he loves her very much.
No, I'm not the person who claimed to be a cousin in law of anyone.
As far as how Jolie is taking it...hmmm...what can I say here. Not Good I guess is an accurate response.
It's kind of a funny thing...the public persona of Angie is that she's tough and strong and independent. And everyone thinks Jen is clingy and needy and insecure. While it's actually the absolute opposite. From what I know of Jen, she's strong and a bit of a tough cookie. Very kind but would put you in your place if you needed it. Angie is the one who is needy and childlike, insecure and clingy. And manipulative. Oh is she manipulative! Everything she does is based on her own insecurity. Oooooh...things I want to say, but don't think I should.
It is my impression that Angie basically stalked Brad inside the relationship, meaning while they were together she messed with his mind and did all of these things to break his spirit, like she was trying to gain complete control of him. It was the only way she knew to make sure he never left. I'm very happy he was able to pull himself out.
It's my opinion that she tried to break his spirit while they were in the relationship by doing horrible things to mess with his mind. Isolating him from his friends and family for one. She would try to destroy anyone and anything she viewed as a threat, and that included hurting Brad in the process. I can't go into specifics, but there was nothing she wouldn't do to keep control of him, and that included physically hurting him. In my opinion of course.
As far as whether she loved him, I don't know how to answer that, since I don't think she's capable of the type of love that most people can feel. And by that I mean a healthy, supportive friendship where you want the other person to be happy. It's all about her and her needs, I dont' think she's capable of anything else. Everything and everyone is a stepping stone to her.
I don't think it's as anything cut and dry as that. I think there are sooooo many factors at play here, and the kids issue is probably at the bottom of the list. I know that Jen is great with kids...she is godmother to a few and involved in their lives.
Remember...whatever the public sees as far as what they're doing right now, is what they want us to see at this point. That's all I'm saying.
I can't see the 'bolded' you're talking about but I think I understand your question. It's my impression that Angie has been out to destroy and hurt Jen for a long time. Many are of the opinion that the reason why she went after Brad was not just about what it would do for her career, but the pain and hurt it would cause Jen. Don't ask me the reasoning behind that type of behavior, some people are just unwell with themselves.
I don't think Jen was ever angry at Brad's behavior at Cannes, I think she understands that it was how it had to be, and she knew the backstory of what was going on. But if it were me, and I was in the situation, I would think it would just be hard to almost be back with the great love of your life and still have to see them with the person who tried to destroy you. Even if you know it's all for the cameras, even if you knew 'the game' and how it had to be played out, even if you knew that millions of dollars and multiple careers were on the line...and that the launch of the film had to appear in a certain way, it's still gotta be a hard to see.
All the questions you have should be posed to their respective PR teams (Angie recently hired one to help her navigate through the break up). They have the strategy, the schedule, the contract obligations they have to fulfill together, and they'll be arranging the message throughout the process. I just have to say that from where I'm standing, this has been handled very very well. It's all been dignified and respectful and to and for all parties involved, and I commend that.
When I say imminent, I mean that is basically already done. This has been coming for quite some time. What comes of it is the long term is up to Brad and Jen.
I'm not really up on the loon and anti thing, I don't know where public favor sits and with whom, but I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that there may be a large group of people who will feel relieved when the reunion happens. If that's the case, it will make the PR job easier. I'm sure all camps are working together on this, hopefully there won't be any surprises.
Maybe 'needing' isn't the right word. They're very close and they're a wonderful support to each other. And although Jen is independent and is doing just fine on her own, I'm sure she would feel good to just be back with someone she feels that level of love and comfort with. (Not to mention that she has witnessed him get the emotional and psychological crud beat out of him for quite some time).
If I loved someone, I would just be happy knowing I could be free to love them.
That's all.
Nope I cannot. From what I have heard, it is bad. And there was a time that friends and family were very worried abou him, he was confused and unsure of everything because his perception of everything was messed up because of her.
The time for you to worry about him has come and gone, so there is no need to worry. She no longer has the influence she once had, and they barely even speak now.
I can't have the answer to that. But what shall we do...take him out back and beat the snot out of him??
Relationships are complicated. Marriages are even more complicated. You know the saying - there are three sides to every story...his side, her side and the truth? Sure what the world saw was terrible. We don't know what led to it, because we weren't in it. And we don't know how much he's grown and how much he's suffered and we don't know how much Jen suffered too, or whether she was done for her own reasons. Was she stoic...or was it just too much of a rough patch to go on at that moment? Was splitting for a few years the right thing to do so they could both get their shite together?
You see, we all really don't know the past, just our perceptions of what we saw.
These questions are PR strategy, and I don't have the answer to them. Sorry. The necklace...I don't know if their PR team invented the story it as bait (meaning the camp invented it to give it credibility to help them with strategy), or it was a rumor started by a tab or fan. As I said before, the tabs know what's going on so they're inventing stories that seem to fit.
I also don't know if QT was angry at Cannes behavior, I just know that they wanted the launch of the movie to go off smoothly, which is why they all played nice for the cameras. From someone who knows tho, I have to say it was painful to watch. I don't know when they're going to announce the split, it could be that they are still have outstanding contracts they need to fulfill as far as appearances together, or they could be waiting until after the twins turn 1. There is a timeline in place, since they are 'the Brand' and the most 'powerful' couple in HW, they need to ease into this lightly. She may still be there for the promotion of IB tho, since it may be 'expected' since they haven't announced a split yet.
I have to say tho, out of any of the tabs, I think In Touch has been very accurate about the 'big' details (not the small necklace type things). There is something there. Out of any tab, I would be paying closest attention to them.
I don't know where she is. Hopefully as far away from me (for my own personal reasons) as humanly possible. If Brad's in LA, she's probably in LA. She'll use the excuse that she wants all the 'family' to be together and give Brad access to the kids, but in reality, she's just pushing herself on him. Again. Still.
They're co-parenting now, so they have to speak, but their conversation is limited to dealing with those matters.
Yes I'm sure B's parents are aware of this. And I'm sure they're thrilled.
Postby Guest on Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:31 am
There are things I can say, and things I can't. My first concern is to make sure I protect those innocent children's privacy. And I don't want to give away too much about the people I care about to protect their privacy too.
Nope I cannot. From what I have heard, it is bad. And there was a time that friends and family were very worried abou him, he was confused and unsure of everything because his perception of everything was messed up because of her.
The time for you to worry about him has come and gone, so there is no need to worry. She no longer has the influence she once had, and they barely even speak now.
I don't know about the specifics of any 'sexual' relationship between her and her brother. Nothing would surprise me tho.
[u]Jen and Brad have been talking off and on throughout the past few years[/u]. The conversation started to shift a few months ago. Yes they did meet a few times. From what I hear, he's waiting for her now. (not waiting as it sitting in a hotel bar waiting for her to show up...he's waiting for her to make her mind up, for her to be 'ready').
I have no problem with what you want to call me, [b]the fact is he is not the bio dad to all the kids[/b], [b]he did not adopt the kids and for a bonus Angie never carried those babies.[/b]
ustody? Custody is done. Signed and sealed. They drafted an agreement before Shiloh was born, they tweaked it in November, and it was enforced. Right after it[b] Angie was crying about 'what has been taken from her'.[/b]
Truth be told, Brad has been wanting to get back with Jen for a long time...but she wasn't sure and he was not capable of leaving her. For image sake, he couldn't leave a 'pregnant' woman, could he? Even if they weren't his, even if she wasn't actually pregnant...the world thought she was and they also thought they were a fairytale and in love couple. Remember the weekly tabloid articles and press...all her doing. She was stalking him from inside the relationship. He was trapped with a capital T.
All I know is a conversation I overheard. When she got pregnant, someone close to them was talking with my relative and they said 'you may want to know...she's pregnant and they're not his'...and they followed to say 'and the crazier part is that they're not even hers'. I tried to question them about it and they told me to be quiet and never speak about it.
Then the photos came of when she was pregnant on the beach carrying Shiloh and her pregnant belly was sideways.
How everyone hasn't picked up on this yet is incredible.
Yes they are getting back together. They are pretty much back together now. Of course Angie knows about this. The Brand stopped being a couple MONTHS ago, but she was in denial. I think she's coming to accept it now. Soon she'll have no choice.
Angie wasn't invited because Brad was there to promote CCOBB along with his co-star. Jen was there to promote Marley and Me. AJ could have gone in October when Changeling was launching, but it was not scheduled as part of the press tour.
You're very close about the 'dare I say' comment, because that was when he was beginning to realize that Jen was in fact the love of his life. He and AJ were already done, altho she was trying to hold on for dear life. He was already talking to Jen, and they had already hooked up a few times (from what I hear).
Does anyone wonder why AJ has been trying to throw Jen under a bus for years???? It's because of THIS. She always knew, she always felt threatened that his heart was still with her, and she knew that she only had him because she trapped him. I think she always knew that she was going to be short term. Trying to destroy Jen was one of the main ways she tried to keep him around.
Imagine you have a family with a woman. Regardless of how it's going, you know you made your bed and you need to lie in it.
Then there's this 'mother of your children' who you thought was adventurous and independent, but in reality is an absolute nutsack. What do you do? Try to get her help. Check. Get her to a shrink. Check. Try to support her, get her the proper supports and meds. Check. And then what? When things get so bad, you reach out to an old best friend, someone who was there for you and who was always give you a shoulder, always knew the things to say to make it better. Check.
From where I stand I think the guy made a huge mistake and has been tormented for years because of it. His life with her was NOT easy, but he did what he could and then realized that he had to throw in the towel. It would have done him in if he had stayed.
No he's not worried about any fallout. There are many people in HW who know what's going on. I think Brad does not want to cause AJ misery, since she's not very happy with the situation at the moment. I just think he wants out, and is determined to make a clean break.
I don't know how upset he was when she filed.
Actually, I'm #1, and I think Insider 2 is not really an insider. Or if she/he is, I wonder why she's saying the things she is.
[b]He did adopt the adopted children[/b], the [b]bios are NOT his those two things I know for a fact. They were both legally bound equally to the adopted kids and the bios, and that's all I'm saying about that. And I am not Brad's sister.
Brad's personal attorney is probably one of the best on the planet, there is no way he wouldn't make sure Brad's interests are protected going into this, during it and now after it. I have first hand knowledge of what measures were put in place at the beginning of this relationship to protect his interests and it was hard core. When Brad started to leave the relationship back in 06/07 because of her insanity, his attorney started collecting data. Her attorneys kept cautioning her when the split finally happened in 08, but she still did things. And because of it, a custody fight would NOT be good for her. You're right about Brad wanting to play fair and her not (because she is insane), but her hands were tied.
AJ has not told me anything, I have never had a civil relationship with her, or any kind of relationship with her. I was always someone she viewed as a threat. Brad, however, has told me a number of things, since I was around when they first got together in 1998. Yes boys and girls, the first time Brad and AJ did the nasty was in 1998, before he was going out with Jen. There I spilled it.
If you really are an insider, tell me what the true story behind Brad working so closely with the storyline and development of the story of CCOBB?? There is a distinct reason why he worked so closely with Eric to develop the story the way it was...what was the reason?
This is untrue, especially Brad trying to bang her on her birthday. He was in NYC at the time of her birthday miles away from her and she told him that she was happy he stayed away since having him there would just be too hard since she couldn't have him to herself anymore.
No, mom and dad are NOT dishonest. Jane was like a mother to me and I miss her very much. She may just not be entirely forthcoming with all info to you. I just know what Brad told me. And my relative. So that's what I go by.
Regarding the secrets, that's why I am not conveying everything I know. I love both Brad and Jen very much and my first concern is with them. As you probably know, I have a vested interest in this that's pretty big, so I'm just waiting for them to finally start making announcements.
[i]There are more on another thread, but these were all made by the same poster, same insider, for those who have followed along you will recognize her. Same elements exist. The conversation continues through out, so why now not just admit the Ying Yang is Jen? It is all over the internet.
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