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Subject: Re: Should a 2-3 MMA fighter Turn Pro?? Author: Neal Weaver [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:53:07 11/01/10 Mon In reply to: James Speight 's message, "Should a 2-3 MMA fighter Turn Pro??" on 03:24:56 10/21/10 Thu I think, it really depends on a fighter. If a guy had a bad start, went 0-3, lost to some dumb stuff, was at a bad gym preparing, took on some of the studs....and then went 2-0 after spending 2-3 years in a gym with good training/training partners and beat a couple guys who were decent, I think yes. However, my answer has alot more to do with the way amatuer MMA is run, than whether a guy needs to hurry to be a pro. To be honest, I wont ever have one of my fighters have many more than 5 amatuer fights before he turns pro. But, he will have alot of high quality gym time, which is a hell of alot more important than number of fights. I would agree, alot of the folks turning pro, with very shaky skills has made me consider trying to fight again, hell I even, on paper, look like a good fight for one of these guys who just turned pro (one pro fight recorded, loss to Dennis Reed in '99) so I could probably get a few to line up to fight me. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Should a 2-3 MMA fighter Turn Pro?? Author: Neal Weaver [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:06:28 11/01/10 Mon To be honest, As to folks wanting to get their fighters pro fast, or fighters who turn pro with weak skill sets.........this has alot more to do with ignorance and incompetence than greed IMO. There are A TON of folks teaching and cornering who dont have a good base of training themselves, dont have a quality program, and basically when their fighters win, it has more to do with the simple fact SO MANY folks are fighting now a days its pretty easy to get a guy who also sucks to fight against. So any team, no matter how bad can get a couple wins together, and can also get confused into thinking a bit of physical ability and lucky match making is a road to making money fighting. The poor manner Amatuer MMA is run, sort of makes alot of folks to also rush to fight as a professional, but that is another topic. I have had several guys who have had fights before (but train other places or come from out of state) drop in to train and are surprised that they are getting taken apart, and I run a small program (most people I ever had was 50, and that included kids) so its not like I have a stable of super human athletes I am teaching guard smash and pass tech to. I also, dont really do anything any different than any of the other training centers to who have solid credentials. So some of the folks who come in who have had fights, and even more surprisingly, wins, really shock me as to their dearth of technical knowledge/practical ability. I feel the issue is tied far more to incompetent training/hard headed fighters who dont listen (I was this guy for a long time when I started, so I understand) than anything to do with outright greed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]