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Subject: Re: Should a 2-3 MMA fighter Turn Pro?? Author: Ses [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 13:44:41 11/08/10 Mon In reply to: James Speight 's message, "Should a 2-3 MMA fighter Turn Pro??" on 03:24:56 10/21/10 Thu At what point do we blame poor training programs vs poor trainers vs poor performance and head strong fighters in regards to Development and Victory to turning pro too soon. Training Programs --- There are a ton of good teachers who understand how to teach but not what is important or relevant to gaining a win inside the cage. Poor Trainers --- Have access to great resources but produce poor athletes. Have good intentions even good technique themselves but cannot transfer this quality. (I've heard it said that "Gaining your black belt means that you have been taught what to do, but it doesn't mean that you know how to teach others what to do." Performance --- Actions taken during training all the way up to the ending of the fight. Choices made under fire. Head Strong fighters --- Huge ego's / Legends in their own minds. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Should a 2-3 MMA fighter Turn Pro?? Author: Neal Weaver [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:09:17 11/08/10 Mon To be honest, poor training is usually the reason flat out. So many guys training people who dont know wtf they are doing right now, its damn near epidemic. When I am at a fight, and I have to wrap 4 sets of hands that do not belong to my fighters......something is wrong. However, victory alone is a poor barometer of a fighter's quality of training. I go more by what the guy actually looks like in a fight(as in, does he look like he has solid fundamentals) rather than just win/loss. Lots of guys have good records, but if you look at their opposition, the win/loss ratio is 15-20%, and if its higher, its because alot of the guys only have 1 fight (a loss to our hero) balanced against guys with 2-3 records on the bad end of our heros 4-0/5-0/8-0/whatever record. Of course a fighter himself can be the cause of a poor performance, but most decent trainers wont tolerate that sort of thing, I know I wont. Fighters take up more time, more effort, require me to be out of town on weekends, and really bring in zero business. So they can do it my way or do it somewhere else. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]