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Subject: Re: This is the norm now???? everyone is teaching MMA??


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billy d.
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Date Posted: 00:34:01 04/16/08 Wed
In reply to: Just Wondering 's message, "This is the norm now???? everyone is teaching MMA??" on 22:23:35 02/19/08 Tue

I feel much dumber having read some of these posts.I have to go with Mr.Weaver on this one,if you have no experience in some thing,how can you prepare someone else for it?As far as the whole blue belt training someone for a fight,again,I would have to agree with Mrs.Weaver.
"It wasn't too long ago that there were nothing but blue belts in NC or SC and I can remember that there were some pretty good fighters coming out of the camp trained by blue belt."Well as Little Miss Weaver had stated it was 8 plus years ago.Also I was one of those blue belts and as stated in the quote,thats about all that there was around here(blue belts).We trained each other and learned some pretty harsh lessons.Now lets fast forward to present day and realize that these blue belts are all brown and black belts.Not only that, but they have experience in training and fighting,have experience training and coaching someone else for a fight,have a grasp on the lines of bullshit that goes on in our sport,and have more in the win part of their record than the loss;not only as individuals,but as coaches and as a team.It's a whole lot different now then back then.What wasn't mentioned was how small and close knit the MMA community was back then.If you didn't know somebody involved in MMA around here(pretty much SC,NC,and VA)you knew of them.We all kinda looked out for each other.Things are a little different now.
Blue belts are no longer top of the local food chain,or even close to it unless they have vast previous experience in wrestling and/or boxing or muay thia.Even then a good amount of the purple trough black belts have good wresting and decent stand up.So that being said and a blue belt being a marker that you have a basic understanding of what jiu-jitsu is,I again have to agree with the very seductive Mrs.Weaver that a blue belt preparing some one for a fight probobly is not the best idea.
Now there are exeptions to every rule,but they are few and far between.Can a wrestler who has never had a mma match prepare someone for a fight?Not likely,but not out of the question.A very similar question is "Can the seventeen year old kid at Jiffy Lube that changed my oil rebuild my engine?",again it's not likely but it is possible.
Now uh,hmmmmm!How do I put this?What in the hell are you talking about Todd Warren?The first to sentences of you post actually intrigued me a little.Then you turned off and headed towards Lalaville and lost me.I honestly can not connect the rest of your post to the first two sentences,or to what anyone else on here is talking about.Nor will I even attempt to pronounce the name of your instructor.
Well I have to poop now,so I'll stop typing.

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Shidoshi Rob Austin (Lightning bolts)
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Date Posted: 00:51:38 04/16/08 Wed

Even though I'm not quite a level 7 grappler, but I can shoot lighting bolts out of my ass I'll add my two cents.

First I'll throw out that I am a TKD instructor and I've been teaching for a few years off and on. I just put Shidoshi in my name because I thought I'd look more official if someone read this.

MMA is becoming, if not already, a popular thing for people to want to learn. Most martial arts schools you'll run across will try to jump on the wagon and ride it to town, ATT sells MMA certification, ATA just did an MMA seminar and currently runs ground fighting seminars. They're fine and dandy as long as you don't use the (limited) training to open up a Cary Top Team center or something like that.

I think another argument most places will resort to is that if you do more than one martial art and you teach them, then it's MMA. I guess that goes with the implied meaning and the understood meaning. If someone tells me that they teach MMA, then I get a vision of people working kickboxing of some sort and grappling. When it turns out it's stick fighting, aikido and kung fu, I start to wonder a bit. If teaching more than one art counts as MMA, then every freaking academy out there would be an MMA academy.

In closing I'll just say that you can't teach people to get ready for a fight without fight experience. And most schools teaching an "MMA" course are full of it.

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