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Date Posted: 06:38:34 04/01/01 Sun
Author: brownlec
Subject: Re: Only for newbies!!!! "Filik DC10+ Hack Manual"
In reply to: Jeff 's message, "Re: Only for newbies!!!! "Filik DC10+ Hack Manual"" on 02:09:31 03/31/01 Sat

Ya, Same with me. After saving, exiting, and then opening Prem6(retail) and the same project back up, the freezing comes back for me too. However, I don't have to "redo" the transitions, I can "delete -- then, undo delete" for each one, one at a time, and then I can play them. Luckily, I haven't done a long project yet, but I will be at the end of April, so I hope we can clear this up by then!!! I thought I recalled the Beta version "buggy" when I used it briefly, but perhaps I had a bad "hack"! I suppose I might have to try to get it again!

>Bronlec:
>
>Hey, thanks for your response. I have a feeling this
>freezing on transitions is a problem with the retail
>version of Premiere 6. I can get it to work with an
>initial edit. However, when I save, then exit out of
>Premiere 6.0 and come back to the project later, the
>transition then freezes. I have to redo every single
>transition. Obviously, this is not right. We may
>have to wait until the DC30 drivers come out. Filik:
>any ideas?
>
>>Hey, what a GREAT job with the manual!! This was
>>definitely needed..Newbies going thru this site would
>>literally pull their hair out trying to sort out all
>>of the different ways to tackle the setup..so many
>>have done it so many different ways!! I know I
>>did...and I can't even remember how I ultimately got
>>it going!!!
>>This is perfect, I need to blow away my system 'cause
>>it's been crashing like crazy lately, so it is nice to
>>have what looks like a good step by step guide.
>>One thing you might want to add though, is the
>>modification to the Multimedia devices due to DC30
>>changing the original settings from before DC30
>>install.
>>
>>Again Kudos!!!
>>
>>By the way Jeff, I use a retail version of Premiere 6,
>>and when I preview an edited project, I get the
>>freezing as well, like you, right after I finish some
>>editing. I have found that after a render, I delete
>>one of the affected scenes, then immediately do and
>>undo, and then the transition and scene run OK. I
>>need to do this for each subsequent scene for me to be
>>able to get this to play all the way through. Really
>>strange, and a real pain in the ASS!! Hopefully my
>>system re-install will clean up this problem, or maybe
>>it is one of the issues with the Premiere 6 and DC30
>>drivers combination.!!??? Anyone else seen this?
>>
>>
>>
>>>That was a pefect explanation! Thank you so much.
>>>However, now that I got it working, the transitions
>>>are having problems. Anyone know why? It seems to
>>>freeze on the last frame of a dissolve transition.
>>>The audio continues, but the video remains on the
>last
>>>frame.
>>>
>>>Thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>>>A few days ago I created a text file for a couple of
>>>>DC10+ owning friends of mine, who wanted to know how
>>>>to install and use Filik's famous hack. Maybe
>newbies
>>>>in DC10+ to Dc30+ patching have some benefit reading
>>>>it, so here it is.
>>>>
>>>>BTW sorry for the louzy verbs, English isn't my
>>native
>>>>language you see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>INSTALLING AND USING FILIK'S MIRO INSTANT VIDEO
>HACK:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1:
>>>>On a "clean" system, install DC10 drivers & Studio
>>>>software (from the cdrom included in the DC10+
>>>>package).
>>>>If you've already installed Studio and the drivers
>of
>>>>course you can skip this step...
>>>>
>>>>Note a:
>>>>Yes, before you can upgrade to the latest DC10+
>>>>drivers on a clean system, you always first have to
>>>>install the drivers from the cdrom. That's because
>>the
>>>>upgrades are NOT full installation setups, but just
>>>>(the name says it all...) upgrades from the drivers
>>on
>>>>your cdrom.
>>>>
>>>>Note b:
>>>>Perhaps it's possible to install DC10+ drivers
>>without
>>>>installing the Studio software, but why bother?
>>>>Although Premiere is much better in EDITTING your
>>>>video stuff then Studio, IMO the latter still is the
>>>>best software for CAPTURING video. With the newest
>>>>drivers it acts much like famous AVI_IO (in fact
>>>>Markuss Zing, developer of AVI_IO, participated in
>>>>'perfectioning' the latest Pinnacle 1.06.4 DC10+
>>>>drivers).
>>>>Using the Studio software for capturing gives you
>the
>>>>benefit of automatic multiple 2 Gb file creation
>>while
>>>>making long captures (up to 77 minutes or so), and
>>>>perfect audio/video sync (well at least on my
>>>>system...).
>>>>And Studio is for free, coz you already have it on
>>the
>>>>package deal cdrom, now don't you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2:
>>>>Now upgrade to the newest DC10+ drivers (1.06.4
>final
>>>>or beta), that is if your cdrom has pre 106.4
>version
>>>>drivers.
>>>>Some say the 1.06.4-Final drivers has bugs. They
>>>>prefer the 1.06.4-BETA drivers wich appearantly dont
>>>>have those bugs.
>>>>Well, I dont know if all of that is really true
>>'cause
>>>>the 1.06.4-Final drivers seems work just fine for
>me.
>>>>
>>>>You can download 1.06.4 FINAL here:
>>>>ftp://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/SDCv106.EXE
>>>>
>>>>You can download 1.06.4 BETA here:
>>>>ftp://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/SDCv106beta.EXE
>>>>(if it's still available)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>3:
>>>>Install Adobe Premiere (5.1c, 6.0 beta or 6.0
>retail,
>>>>don't know about 4.2 and earlier)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Note a:
>>>>With the earlier versions of Filik's hack you had to
>>>>install MiroInstant Video from the DC30+ drivers
>>>>setup. If the DC30+ driver setup couldn't find any
>>>>Premiere version on the system, it refused to
>install
>>>>MiroInstant Video. So you had to install Adobe
>>>>Premiere before you could install MIV from the DC30+
>>>>drivers.
>>>>This is no longer true: you call install Premiere at
>>>>any time now and copy Filik's hacked files (wich
>>>>include MIV) to Premiere's sub folders whenever you
>>>>want.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Note b:
>>>>Attention: Pinnacle has confirmed that Miro Instant
>>>>Video from their latest DC30+ drivers doesn't work
>>>>well with Premiere 6.0 (Retail) and, after a lot
>>>>complaints, has promised to write new ones. They
>>>>should be available in April 2001.
>>>>I guess that (since Filik's patch turns our DC10+
>>>>somewhat into a DC30+) it's well possible that
>>>>Premiere also doesn't like the DC10+ + Miro Instant
>>>>Video combination . I dont know for sure though, so
>>>>try and find out. For myself, I use a hacked version
>>>>of Premiere 6.0 Beta, and this works OK. But I've
>>read
>>>>that 6 Retail seems to differ significantly from
>>>>Premiere 6 Beta versions.
>>>>
>>>>OK, if all the "legal" stuff is on your system you
>>can
>>>>install the hack:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>4:
>>>>Temporarily kill misitray.exe
>>>>(just press ctr/alt/del and end the task "misitray")
>>>>
>>>>5a:
>>>>From Filik's hack "Up to 1.06.zip", extract
>>MISICI.DLL
>>>>to your WINDOWS/SYSTEM folder
>>>>(replacing the default misici.dll)
>>>>
>>>>You can download Up to 1.06.zip here:
>>>>http://plugins.members.easyspace.com/dll.htm
>>>>
>>>>5b:
>>>>From the same "Up to 1.06.zip", extract all files in
>>>>the "SETTINGS" folder to Premiere's "Settings"
>>folder.
>>>>(or extract the complete folder there).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>5c:
>>>>From the same "Up to 1.06.zip", extract PR-MIV.PRM
>to
>>>>Premiere's "PLUG-INS" folder
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>6:
>>>>Restart MISITRAY:
>>>>Start Windows Explorer, goto your Windows folder,
>>goto
>>>>the System subfolder and double-click on the file
>>>>misitray.exe there (yeah yeah, I know: real
>>>>patronising, but this is newbie stuff, man...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>7:
>>>>Ok, the hack is installed, but just to be sure do
>>>this:
>>>>
>>>>-Check the date of the file misici.dll in your
>>>>windows\\system folder.
>>>> It should be the 10th of march 2001
>>>>
>>>>-Check if the file pr-miv.prm is present in the
>>>>Plug-ins folder of Premiere
>>>>
>>>>-Check if the settings folder of Premiere has the
>>>>following files:
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 768x576 4MB.prs
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 768x576 4MB.prs
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 384x288 1MB.prs
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 384x288 1MB.prs
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 720x540 4MB.prs
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 720x540 4MB.prs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>8:
>>>>Start Premiere
>>>>During startup you can see all plugins etc Premiere
>>is
>>>>"pre-loading" (at the bottom of the splash screen).
>>>>One of them should be "DC10+ Editting Mode"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>9:
>>>>Choose File/New project.
>>>>In the "Load Project Settings" screen, choose one of
>>>>the presets you've just copied to the settings
>>folder:
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 768x576 4MB
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 384x288 1MB
>>>>PAL Studio DC10+ 720x540 4MB
>>>>(Note: as you can see those presets are for PAL
>users
>>>>only. So if you have a NTSC system (f.i. USA) I
>guess
>>>>you have to alter these presets manually, because
>>>>Filik didn't include any NTSC presets in his zip
>>file.
>>>>I don't know much about NTSC though).
>>>>
>>>>Back in Premiere's main screen you should see a
>>little
>>>>screen on top of Premiere's editting screens now,
>>>>called "miroINSTANT Studio DC10 Plus". Do you see
>it?
>>>>Congratulations! You've installed the hack correctly
>>>>and now you'll have the famous "Miro Instant Video"
>>>>plugin at your service. This means:
>>>>
>>>>A:
>>>>Timeline scrubbing is smooth (without MIV it's
>rather
>>>>jerky)
>>>>
>>>>B:
>>>>With MIV you do NOT have to render the full project
>>to
>>>>a new avi in order to output to videotape. In stead
>>of
>>>>that Premiere automaticly only renders the stuff
>wich
>>>>isn't already somewhere on your harddisk, such as
>>>>transitions, titles and/or video effects, but not
>the
>>>>cuts!. This works much, much faster!
>>>>F.I: a 25 minute Premiere project with some titles,
>a
>>>>few transitions and video-effects is ready for
>>>>outputting to tape in just a few minutes.
>>>>
>>>>C:
>>>>While scrubbing and editting in Premiere your DC10+
>>>>card DOES HAVE tv/vcr output now, so you can adjust
>>>>and check your edits in real time and full screen on
>>>>your tv-set, in stead of viewing Studio's tiny
>>little,
>>>>postage stamp format, jerky and very low resolution
>>>>edit screen.
>>>>So do yourself a favour: go get your little 15 inch
>>>>bedroom tv set, place it alongside your pc monitor
>>and
>>>>hook it up to your DC10+'s output. Video editting
>>will
>>>>be much more fun now: scrubbing the timeline on your
>>>>pc-monitor while viewing the scenes full screen on
>>>>your tv!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Success!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>===================end of
>>>>manual==========================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>OK, here's some extra info:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Personally:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-I capture video with Studio (or AVI_IO)
>>>>
>>>>Because with the latest 1.06.4 drivers Studio now
>has
>>>>both perfect audio/video sync and automatic
>>multi-file
>>>>capturing (to a max of 77 minutes or so). This is
>IMO
>>>>an very important option wich Premiere, Miro Capture
>>>>or Avicap do NOT have.
>>>>Those files are by default 2 Gb of size, but in the
>>>>Windows Registry (or easier: with the help of
>>DC10REG;
>>>>a freeware utility made by Jos Rooyakkers) you can
>>>>even adjust their size to 1 Gb, 2 Gb or 650 Mb (wich
>>>>is nice for making AVI backups on cdr material).
>>>>
>>>>BTW, Dc10reg has some other nice options too. You
>can
>>>>download it here:
>>>>http://studio.club.tip.nl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-I save stills (to BMP or JPG) with Studio.
>>>>
>>>>Of course Premiere can save stills too. But
>strangely
>>>>enough Premiere has no "flicker removal" option for
>a
>>>>single still, an option wich dramatically improve
>the
>>>>quality of saved bitmaps from video material. In
>>>>Premiere you'll have to 'point' that particular
>>>>video-effect to a complete clip in order to get
>>>>de-flickered stills, while in Studio you CAN remove
>>>>the flicker from a single frame while outputting to
>a
>>>>bitmap file, so without changing Studio's project
>>>>file.
>>>>Yes I know, in Premiere you CAN de-interlace a still
>>>>while saving it to a bitmap, but IMO Studio's
>>>>"de-flicker" option gives better quality bitmaps. So
>>>>most of the time I use Studio for saving stills.
>>>>On top of that all Adobe Premiere versions -apart
>>from
>>>>6.0 Retail- can only save to BMP, GIF or TIFF, not
>>to
>>>>the popular JPG format. Well, Studio CAN!.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-I edit video material & output to tape with
>Premiere
>>>>
>>>>Of course Premiere has a lot more and better
>editting
>>>>options then Studio does. But probably the main
>>reason
>>>>I'm using Premiere for editting is "Miro Instant
>>>>Video" (see above) and for that you need Filik's
>>>hack.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-I make Mpeg1 or Mpeg2 files from AVI's with
>Premiere
>>>>
>>>>A lot of Mpeg1 and/or mpeg2 compressors are also
>>>>available as a "plugin" for Premiere. This has the
>>>>major advantage you do NOT have to render a
>>completely
>>>>edited project to a new AVI file first (from wich a
>>>>stand alone Mpeg compressor then makes the Mpeg
>>file).
>>>>No, with a Premiere Mpeg plugin you can simply
>output
>>>>your project straight to Mpeg, in a SINGLE
>>procedure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Success again!
>>>>(eof)

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