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Date Posted: 16:23:53 07/15/00 Sat
Author: Peter
Subject: Re: The right hand is different
In reply to: Dave Ferguson 's message, "Re: Heard Super Swing - Peter/Remington - Rotation" on 12:29:17 07/15/00 Sat

> The problem I have is that with a three wood and
> driver I have a strong tendency to hook. An attempt to
> stop this by using the "karate" chop feeling results
> in a severe loss of distance.

Although Remington and I have talked about the right hand being in a stronger position, this is still not quite HSS (which would have the thumb on the side of the grip). Still I have found that I had to go to a VERY weak grip for this to work. At setup I have no knuckles showing on the lead hand. This is apx. like Moe's grip shown HERE . After you swing if you bring you arms down in front of you without adjusting you hands, the club face should be vertical. If not either the club moved in your hands or you set up too open (if it's facing the sky) or too closed. Scott (IMA) refers to this as 'balancing' the club.

You can also tinker with your ball position. Just remenber that a release (my definition) will have the club go from apx. toe up before impact to aps. toe up after impact. There is only a limited period where the club face is perpendicular to the target line and you want the ball positioned during this period. All else being equal, if the ball is too far forward you will pull/hook. The reverse if it is too far back.

> Jack K in the "Ask The Professor" section of the SciGolf
> forum says that NG and Jerry Heard have misinterpreted
> his teachings. He states clearly that rotation of the
> forearms is essential to good distance.

I think Jack K. has come up with some brilliant things but this one made no sense to me at all. There is only very limited strength in your forearms and I have seen many analysis to demonstrate you can not manipulate your forearms to generate significant speed. I can also vouch for the fact that I did not loose distance with HSS.

I now subscribe to a different interpretation of Jack K's statement. When you execute a NG or IMA swing (I think)correctly there is a tremendous rotational force on the club causing the face to rotate from toe up to toe up. My swing did not generate this much force till recently and now for the first time I'm getting calouses at the base of the fingers in my left hand (and I practice less than I used to). Because the club in not exactly in line with the axis of this rotational force, the feeling is that the club 'whips out' to the ball with a lot of speed for an otherwise slow swing. This is not a motion your forearms create but rather one that the swing/grip creates. I now choose to believe that this is what Jack K. meant.

Peter

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