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Date Posted: 10:25:34 06/03/02 Mon
Author: One!
Subject: One! > {Woman!}

GRACE ABOUNDING
June 1 2002 at 12:03 PM Connie Spivey
from IP address 66.141.118.40
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GRACE ABOUNDING

In a letter to his spiritual son, Timothy, Paul wrote, some1900 years ago, about his conversion:

" was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious, but obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. AND THEGRACE OF OUR LORD WAS EXCEEDING ABUNDANT..." (I Tim.1:13,14).

And he follows this with the now-famous declaration:

"THIS IS A FAITHFUL SAYING, AND WORTHY OF ALL ACCEPTA-TION, THAT CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVESINNERS, OF WHOM I AM CHIEF" (Ver 15).

Upon reading this statement by Paul, those who know their Bibles will immediately recall the words of Rom.5:20,21:

" . . .the law entered, that the offence might abound, BUT WHERESIN ABOUNDED, GRACE DID MUCH MORE ABOUND; THAT AS SINHATH REIGNED . . .SO MIGHT GRACE REIGN . . . ."

These two passages from the pen of Paul have a closer connection than may appear on the surface. The Apostle Paul, once Saul of Tarsus, had led his nation and the world in rebellion against Christ. "As for Saul," we read in Acts8:3, "he made havoc of the church," and he himself testified to the Galatians: "Ye have heard.. .how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and laid it waste" (Gal.1:13).

Yet God, in infinite mercy, had saved Saul, not only for Saul's own sake, but to make him the living demonstration of His grace. Thus in writing to Timothy, the Apostle goes on to explain:

"Howbeit, FOR THIS CAUSE I OBTAINED MERCY, THAT IN MEFIRST JESUS CHRIST MIGHT SHOW FORTH ALL LONGSUFFER1NG,FOR A PATTERN TO THEM WHICH SHOULD HEREAFTER BELIEVE ONHIM TO LIFE EVERLASTING" (I Tim. 1:16).

Let us, then, take our places with Saul, the sinner, and find salvation by grace through Christ, the Savior. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved" (Acts16:31).


You are cordially invited to visit:

Grace Christian Ladies
www.voy.com/24596/

Proclaiming
- The Gospel of the Grace of God -
- Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth -
- Speaking the Truth in Love –

E-MAIL THIS MESSAGE YOUR FRIENDS

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Why can't we respond to messages at your board?
June 1 2002 at 12:11 PM DJ
from IP address 216.198.101.169

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I think you should fix it.
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One! > share-N wog and connie's post! {notice connie has not rply to dj's reply yet !}
June 1 2002 at 4:40 PM One!
from IP address 65.56.34.126

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Date Posted: 15:01:01 06/01/02 Sat
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.116
Subject: Connie
In reply to: Connie Spivey 's message, "GRACE ABOUNDING" on 15:01:01 06/01/02 Sat

Hello Connie,

Please forgive me as I don't know you. Could you tell us a little about yourself? I am not female so it probably isn't me your ministry is reaching out to. I would just wish you to share the foundations of your belief system. Do you accept the Triune God? Are you charismatic? Are you universalist? etc.

Thanking you in appreciation for a response
In Christ
WOG

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Date Posted: 17:30:32 06/01/02 Sat
Author: Connie Spivey
Author Host/IP: 66.141.119.143
Subject: Re: WOG
In reply to: WOG 's message, "Connie" on 17:30:32 06/01/02 Sat

I believe in the Triune God and I am not a Charismatic and I believe that Men have to believe in the Lord Jesus christ to be saved. I have a Grace Christian Ladies Posting board and would let you know exatley what I believe. My address is www.voy.com/24596/

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June 1 2002 at 4:48 PM DJ
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my message has been deleted. I don't see one from wog there either.

maybe she doesn't understand what's going on?

did she spam all the religious boards?
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Connie's Testimony
June 1 2002 at 4:55 PM DJ
from IP address 216.198.101.166

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“My Testimony”
By-Connie Spivey

Going back over my childhood isn’t easy to do and I find it hard to write about; but I believe that God wants me to do this and if that is what he wants me to do. I am more than glad to do it. Growing up in the country is so different than in a large city, not so crowded with families living many miles apart. So brothers and sisters usually just played together, my sister who was two years younger, and I were pretty close.

There was an elderly couple holding Sunday school classes at the country school where I attended. My mother allowed my sister who was ten, and I was twelve to go the first Sunday. I was so surprise to hear what they were saying as they told us that God loved us so much that He gave His only Son to die on a cross. They said He paid for all our sins and all we had to do, is just believe on Him; and God Who cannot lie, would give us the free gift of eternal life! They made it very plain that we never had to worry about not going to heaven when we died. I had never felt loved as a child and I couldn’t imagine anyone loving me that much to do that for me. I don’t think I understood all that was being said but, I remember when they were asking us if we wanted to accept Him as our Savior, I know I was saved in my seat but, when they ask us to come down to the front I responded; Will when I got down to the front; I looked back and noticed, that all the children were gone and we were the only ones left. They had all gone home and my sister had gone also, there were thirteen of us left at the school building.

So I had to go home alone, and I couldn’t understand why my mother was anger with me. I learned my sister had told her what had happened and she was waiting with a belt for me. I was afraid of her because she had used it on me many times, but couldn’t see what made her get that anger at me, since I didn’t feel like I had did anything wrong. I was so happy before I got home and it was hard to imagine this was happening, all my joy I had felt was turning into sadness. But she said there was no such thing as “Once Saved always Saved” and I was too young to be saved in the first place.

She just told me to go to the table and eat lunch but I wasn’t hungry at all, I was wishing I could go back to school and talk some more to the nice couple who; had made me so happy with what they told me. I was devastated as I heard her telling me I could not go back to the classes anymore, since they were going to continue them through the summer. I was wondering if the other children would get to go. Will anyway I was afraid to ask her if I could go back, after that. I know that was the worst thing I felt could happen to me at that time. I don’t believe my family understood how hurtful that was to me, my sisters that were older, made ugly remarks that hurt me. I didn’t know why they were doing this to me and why did they not understand about God; and all the things He had did for them! I was afraid to tell them, so I just kept it to myself. It wasn’t easy growing up in a non-Christian family, but time went quickly and I wanted to go to High School, and my parents let me go live with my Grandmother so I could go since there was only a grade school where we were living. My Grandmother lived close to a small town which was quite a distance from where we were living.

I found that High School wasn’t much different than the little country school where I had gone. The children seamed more mature than I was, and I found myself spending all my time in my books, and also helping the other girls with there assignments, thinking I could make friends that way. I was not interested in boys and most all the girls that were my age had boy friends. I wanted to make good grades and my Father had been very strict with us and I also didn’t want to disobey him.

It seamed like everyone just lived as if there was no God! At least that was the way it looked to me. I guess they just wanted to have fun anyway they could. I knew I couldn’t forget my experience I had, and although I was confused I felt I had no one to talk to and it was very lonely. I couldn’t talk to my family or my Grandmother and so that left me just talking to the “One who had made me so happy on that summer day.” I did not know He lived inside me at the time. But I did know I could trust Him with everything and I just talked to Him, I felt like He was the only real friend I had. I had tried reading my bible but found I couldn’t understand it. I knew I needed someone to help me understand the Scriptures, but I was afraid to even mention it, since my mother had acted like I did something wrong when I came home from Sunday school that day. I can’t explain why I felt the way I did, but I guess it was because of the fear, that my mother had put into me as I was growing up. I know that she made a difference between me and my other sisters.

I became confused, not knowing just what to do, not having any Christian friends, and not knowing how to meet them. I know there are those who might wonder why didn’t I just go to a Church and ask the people to give me all the answers I wanted to know? But I remembered what had happened when my mother told me there was no such thing as “Once Saved Always Saved” I was afraid they would tell me the same thing.

I believe God watches over His children and I believe He was watching over me all that time. I later moved to a large city and that is where I met my husband; I found He couldn’t help me with my questions either, but he understood more than I did. He was a Christian also but, his mother had brought him up in a Pentecostal Church. So he didn’t know that he had eternal life at the present time either. But he was dissatisfied with the way the Church where he went believed on the subject of our Security in Christ. Now I believe that was the reason maybe we met since we both had some of the same problems. Maybe we would be able with God’s help to find the answers we needed.

But I didn’t know it would take us so long, and God wants us to know the truth and to hide it in our hearts so we can live for Him the way He desires us to. I now know that it is so much easier to live for the Lord, when you know you have eternal life and He will never take it from you. Because eternal life is eternal or it isn’t eternal life at all. So that was why I was having so much trouble and so confused, there is nothing to rejoice about if you can loose your salvation. So that was the reason why I had gotten so discouraged, and drifted away from the Lord, how could you rejoice and worry at the same time.

But I still had a lot to learn and it took me many years to forget about those bad things that had so confused me when I was young. I would read the new Testament over and over, since that was where my husband told me to read. He knew that I certainly couldn’t understand the OT so I read the new Testament through over 15 times in about 6 months. But it was not until after my second child was born and in school. One day I was reading my bible and praying for the Lord to help me, see the Security of the believer like I saw it when I was just a child of 12. While I was reading the book of John it seamed like John 3:16 stood out to me as if it were the first time I had read it, although, I had memorized it. I was taken back in my mind to the time when I was in the little country school and I could see the same thing again. I realized I had everlasting life all that time. You can’t imagine how I felt, all my joy returned to me and I was just as happy as I was years before. I couldn’t thank God enough for what He had done for me and for allowing me to once again to see that I could not loose my salvation.

I am hopeful that my Testimony will be a help to those who may have problems about the fear of loosing their Salvation after they are saved. I know that God will keep us in Christ and I can just trust Him for everything. I can certainly trust Him after all the Scriptures say so much about our security in Christ in His Word. Here are some of them that I have made a part of my life. John 3:16, For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 5:24, “He that hearth my word and believeth on Him that sent me hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Colossians 2:12, Buried with Him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with Him through the faith of the operation of God, Who hath raised Him from the dead. (1Corinthians 12:13) “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” (Ephesians 2:5-6) “Even when we were dead in sins, have quickened us together with Christ (by Grace ye are saved) and raised us up together, and made us set together in Heavenly places in Christ Jesus.” Ephesians 4:30, And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION. I realize as far as God is concerned we are already seated in Heaven since, we are put into His Body, by the Spirit of God. We just have to wait for our Heavenly Bodies. (1 Thessalonians 4:16) “For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Arch Angel, and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first.”(verse 17) “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

I believe with the help of the Lord, my husband Cecil, and I was used in my mother’s life, and she was saved before going to be with the Lord. Trying to live up to certain standards to get to Heaven is one of Satan’s lies. I know I have eternal life and the devil cannot take it away from me. Romans 8:38-39, “For I am persuaded, that neither death, not life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height, nor depth nor any other Creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

We are now attending a Grace Bible Church about thirteen miles from us, and I know that the Lord has helped us come to the knowledge in His Word and to find the fellowship we have found in where we are right now.
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One! > dj, Dear!
June 1 2002 at 5:01 PM One!
from IP address 65.57.28.213

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the messages are deleted
June 1 2002 at 4:48 PM DJ
from IP address 216.198.101.166
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my message has been deleted.

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I don't see one from wog there either.
One! >
One! got those two from off wog's board, dj Dear!

Love "U" Sweet-"T"!

Love All ONE!
God Indeed Has Blessed All ONE!
One!
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dj >
maybe she doesn't understand what's going on?

did she spam all the religious boards?
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Yeah I see that now.
June 1 2002 at 5:06 PM DJ
from IP address 216.198.101.166

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I happened over to wogs and saw that she is spamming to get people to come to her place but you can't respond to the posts and if you post a message, she deletes it.

Why would anyone want to go there

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I noticed she got a lot of boards
June 1 2002 at 5:37 PM shy
from IP address 63.155.153.65

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plus my ez. I have no clue why it is set up that way.

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Hit and run
June 2 2002 at 12:35 AM Greg
from IP address 216.154.13.100

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Spammers are best ignored.

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One! > dj, just share-N this with "U" ! run on to it eariler today!
June 1 2002 at 5:40 PM One!
from IP address 65.57.28.213

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Date: 05/8/02 09:45:07 PM
Name: Massud
Email:
Subject: Woman's Fault- every bit of it! Naked Truth!
IP Address: 67.240.38.15

Taking a bite... Woman knowing that she was naked, saw that we (man) were naked too! The Woman knew what we (man) would want to do to her, her being naked and us (man) being naked too, yet if we (man) only knew that we (man) were naked and that she (woman) was naked too! But the Woman knew that she was naked and her (woman) knowing she was naked, knew what we (man) would want to do to her- her being naked and she still said...

"JUST WAIT TILL HE GETS A BITE OF THIS!"

MASSUD

p.s.- Very biblical!!!

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Date: 05/9/02 07:36:36 AM
Name: QUITTNER
Email:
Subject: Re: Woman's Fault???
IP Address: 128.100.46.202

Oh YEAH? It's the fault of the pre-historic bicyclists!
Why the bicyclists'? Why the women's? [LAUGHS]

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Date Posted: 17:59:53 06/01/02 Sat
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.118
Subject: Huh?
In reply to: Connie Spivey 's message, "Re: WOG" on 17:59:53 06/01/02 Sat

C> I am not a Charismatic and I believe that Men have to believe in the Lord Jesus christ to be saved.

W> MEN? What about women? LOL. Thank you Connie and God bless you in your ministry. If you wish to hear a man's point of view on some particular subject feel free to ask.

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Date Posted: 18:14:39 06/01/02 Sat
Author: DJ
Author Host/IP: 216.198.101.166
Subject: Re: Huh?
In reply to: WOG 's message, "Huh?" on 18:14:39 06/01/02 Sat

Only men need to get saved. Women's curse is living with them.


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Date Posted: 17:52:00 06/01/02 Sat
Author: dj
Author Host/IP: 216.198.101.166
Subject: Conne deleted my post to her board

I'm a women and I ask a salvation question and she deleted it.



Is this anyway to act?

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Date Posted: 18:03:53 06/01/02 Sat
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.118
Subject: An honest response DJ
In reply to: dj 's message, "Conne deleted my post to her board" on 18:03:53 06/01/02 Sat

Maybe she has a particular role for the board to play. Maybe she senses you're trolling. She has made herself available to be reached by e-mail. Why don't you reach her that way and ask her?

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Date Posted: 18:13:39 06/01/02 Sat
Author: DJ
Author Host/IP: 216.198.101.166
Subject: She sensed this with one post?
In reply to: WOG 's message, "An honest response DJ" on 18:13:39 06/01/02 Sat

I ask a question and she deleted it. I didn't troll. I ask her what she is being saved from.

This is a legitimate question. I don't think she wants to spend time answering the question.

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One! > Who is the woman, then ! {Acts 15:18}
June 1 2002 at 6:07 PM One!
from IP address 65.57.28.213

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One! >
share-N the
Bible >
Acts 15:18
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of world.

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know ye shall be as gods

John 4:24
God is a "S"pirit;

John 10:34,35
gods unto whom the word God came

John 3:6
born of "S"pirit is spirit

One! >
Ponder:{Born of "G"od is god}
Ponder: Was he wrong or right!Genesis 3:5

Love "U" All as ONE!
God Indeed Has Blessed All ONE!
One!

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One! > dj, just share-N this with "U" ! run on to it eariler today!
June 1 2002 at 5:40 PM One!
from IP address 65.57.28.213
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Date: 05/8/02 09:45:07 PM
Name: Massud
Email:
Subject: Woman's Fault- every bit of it! Naked Truth!
IP Address: 67.240.38.15

Taking a bite... Woman knowing that she was naked, saw that we (man) were naked too! The Woman knew what we (man) would want to do to her, her being naked and us (man) being naked too, yet if we (man) only knew that we (man) were naked and that she (woman) was naked too! But the Woman knew that she was naked and her (woman) knowing she was naked, knew what we (man) would want to do to her- her being naked and she still said...

"JUST WAIT TILL HE GETS A BITE OF THIS!"

MASSUD

p.s.- Very biblical!!!

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One! > More added! Ponder: { Who is the woman!}
June 1 2002 at 10:51 PM One!
from IP address 64.154.126.68

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One! >
share-N the
Bible >
Acts 15:18
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of world.
Ponder:
{Did God, then not know, what women would do, before she did it!}

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know ye shall be as gods

John 4:24
God is a "S"pirit;

John 10:34,35
gods unto whom the word God came

John 3:6
born of "S"pirit is spirit
Ponder: {Luke 24:39 a spirit has not flesh and bones!}

One! >
Ponder: {Born of "G"od is god}
Ponder: {Was (he-"?" wrong or right!Genesis 3:5}
Ponder: {Galatians 4:8 them which by nature are no god"s"!}
(Galatians 3:28 There is neither male nor female:!)
Ponder: {Who then was the Woman that is by nature no gods!}

Love "U" All as ONE!
God Indeed Has Blessed All ONE!
One!

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Date: 05/8/02 09:45:07 PM
Name: Massud
Email:
Subject: Woman's Fault- every bit of it! Naked Truth!
IP Address: 67.240.38.15

Taking a bite... Woman knowing that she was naked, saw that we (man) were naked too! The Woman knew what we (man) would want to do to her, her being naked and us (man) being naked too, yet if we (man) only knew that we (man) were naked and that she (woman) was naked too! But the Woman knew that she was naked and her (woman) knowing she was naked, knew what we (man) would want to do to her- her being naked and she still said...

"JUST WAIT TILL HE GETS A BITE OF THIS!"

MASSUD

p.s.- Very biblical!!!

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One! > ***More Added Ponder: {No god"s"/ ONE spirit ! }
June 2 2002 at 7:38 AM One!
from IP address 65.56.147.78

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One! > More added! Ponder: { Who is the woman!}
June 1 2002 at 10:51 PM One!
from IP address 64.154.126.68
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One! >
share-N the
Bible >
Acts 15:18
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of world.
Ponder:
{Did God, then not know, what women would do, before she did it!}

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know ye shall be as gods

John 4:24
God is a "S"pirit;

John 10:34,35
gods unto whom the word God came

John 3:6
born of "S"pirit is spirit
Ponder: {Luke 24:39 a spirit has not flesh and bones!}

One! >
Ponder: {Born of "G"od is god}
Ponder: {Was (he-"?" wrong or right!Genesis 3:5}
Ponder: {Galatians 4:8 them which by nature are no god"s"!}
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***MORE ADDED:

Ponder: {No god"s"/ John 3:6 born of "S"pirit is spirit/Ponder: {Born of "G"od is god}
Ponder: {No evil spirit"s", No unclean spirit"s"
1 Corinthians 6:17 joined unto the Lord is ONE spirit (not spirit"s" }***
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(Galatians 3:28 There is neither male nor female:!)
Ponder: {Who then was the Woman that is by nature no gods!}

Love "U" All as ONE!
God Indeed Has Blessed All ONE!
One!

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Date: 05/8/02 09:45:07 PM
Name: Massud
Email:
Subject: Woman's Fault- every bit of it! Naked Truth!
IP Address: 67.240.38.15

Taking a bite... Woman knowing that she was naked, saw that we (man) were naked too! The Woman knew what we (man) would want to do to her, her being naked and us (man) being naked too, yet if we (man) only knew that we (man) were naked and that she (woman) was naked too! But the Woman knew that she was naked and her (woman) knowing she was naked, knew what we (man) would want to do to her- her being naked and she still said...

"JUST WAIT TILL HE GETS A BITE OF THIS!"

MASSUD

p.s.- Very biblical!!!

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One! > share-N another reply from wog here!
June 2 2002 at 7:54 AM One!
from IP address 65.56.147.78

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Date Posted: 08:34:12 06/02/02 Sun
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.189
Subject: One right and one half right
In reply to: DJ 's message, "Re: Huh?" on 08:34:12 06/02/02 Sun

You're right about the curse for sure.
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Date Posted: 18:14:39 06/01/02 Sat
Author: DJ
Author Host/IP: 216.198.101.166
Subject: Re: Huh?
In reply to: WOG 's message, "Huh?" on 18:14:39 06/01/02 Sat

Only men need to get saved. Women's curse is living with them.
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Date Posted: 17:59:53 06/01/02 Sat
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.118
Subject: Huh?
In reply to: Connie Spivey 's message, "Re: WOG" on 17:59:53 06/01/02 Sat

C> I am not a Charismatic and I believe that Men have to believe in the Lord Jesus christ to be saved.

W> MEN? What about women? LOL. Thank you Connie and God bless you in your ministry. If you wish to hear a man's point of view on some particular subject feel free to ask.
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Beautiful Reminder
June 2 2002 at 6:18 AM Jack Wilmore
from IP address 68.48.192.137

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These are excellent and nourishing texts.

jw

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