Breaking the Cycle also requires more than just improved educational opportunities. What the hell good is a strong education if the only employment opportunities available are minimum wage or drug dealing? I faced that dilemma all the time at my old job: how to tell a kid "stay in school" when he could start running drugs at an early age, have prestige AND $$$. But I'm gonna tell him get that diploma or GED so you can work at Mickey D's? Yeah right! It's a HUGE picture that needs fixing, not just one small area. Supply and demand, cause and effect, which came first: the junkie or the pimp? -- knock yourself out

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Date Posted: 20:44:19 04/29/02 Mon
Author: ladyday
Subject: Breaking the Cycle also requires more than just improved educational opportunities. What the hell good is a strong education if the only employment opportunities available are minimum wage or drug dealing? I faced that dilemma all the time at my old job: how to tell a kid "stay in school" when he could start running drugs at an early age, have prestige AND $$$. But I'm gonna tell him get that diploma or GED so you can work at Mickey D's? Yeah right! It's a HUGE picture that needs fixing, not just one small area. Supply and demand, cause and effect, which came first: the junkie or the pimp?
In reply to: CC 's message, "Well, if parents who care nothing about their children's education or success is blaming the victim, then you bet your ass that is what I am doing! The school I went to was no inner city school, nor was it poor. It got more funding than normal, because it had one of the best football teams in the state. The education was decent, and the school had plenty of resources. A lot of the kids just did not want to learn." on 20:00:04 04/29/02 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I am not quite sure I understand what your point is. What I was discussing was education, and why I think the voucher system is not realistic. If you are talking about after high school, grants and loans are available, and provide enough money to pay living expenses if you attend a junior college. Hell, I did it. I left home at 16, got my diploma through home-schooling, and worked part-time, borrowed money, and went through college. -- CC, 20:52:19 04/29/02 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I went to Thug Highschool too, CC. Left at 16 after taking the profiency test(CA). One thing I did have was a mother who was getting her teaching credential at the time. So I had an example of how important education was. Not everyone does. -- Tf, 09:56:54 04/30/02 Tue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Tf, that is exactly my point. A lot of it depends on the parents. The government cannot force parents to be good parents. It is up to the parents, and that is why I do think so many kids do so poorly academically. The only other thing I can think for other people to help is the mentoring program. The voucher system will not work, unless those who useit really want to take advantage of it. -- CC, 11:22:51 04/30/02 Tue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I put below why I don't think the voucher system will work. Agree on mentoring. A lot of kids are inspired by one good teacher or role model. My only point above was that not all parents are aware of how important education is. They've been to the same crappy schools their kids go to where no one seems to care. A lot of a child's world is where they live. They see the opportunities available in their world. -- Tf, 13:08:35 04/30/02 Tue

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