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Date Posted: 11:41:49 07/27/06 Thu
Author: Steve in ATL
Subject: Re: Embarassed Cycling Fan Here
In reply to: ludwig 's message, "Embarassed Cycling Fan Here" on 11:37:25 07/27/06 Thu

>In the wake of Landis' victory, I had been gushing to
>anyone halfway interested about how awesome his
>achievement is and how great his victory is for
>American cycling.
>
>Already, 2 of my friends have called me up regarding
>the positive doping test, probably afraid I would be
>devastated etc by the probable fall of my hero. Of
>course, I never ruled out the possibility that Landis
>was doping and I felt that Lemond's reaction was dumb
>at best. Nevertheless, right now I feel embarrassed
>to be enthusiastic about this sport. Whatever the
>outcome of this scandal, I think it is increasingly
>unlikely that outsiders will believe in this sport in
>the future. For this we can only blame the culture of
>professional cycling, the selfishness of the sponsers,
>and the naivete of cycling fans.
>
>If I had any power within cycling, this is what I
>would say.... Dopers, either fess up now or get the
>hell out of the sport. The fact that "everybody does
>it" may have some relevance but it isn't an excuse for
>the sort of boldfaced mendacity that makes us ashamed
>to love cycling.
>
>It's time for extraordinary measures--a new ethical
>oath/code and a cleansing of dirty DSes. Riis and co.
>need to be the first ones to go IMHO. Doping of this
>sort is simply not possible without the tacit support
>of team managers.

A lot of people are (possibly) going to learn the same lesson that Hamilton fans learned (yes, I was one of them!) - that just because someone's nice (or at least seems so - we get a very limited picture of these people), it doesn't necessarily follow that they will not do anything they have to to win.

I'm not sure I 100% agree with you on the team manager part, I still think a rider could dope on his own, with the proper support system. I don't see how they'd do it during a (stage) race, though.

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