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Date Posted: 18:28:08 05/27/03 Tue
Author: TP
Subject: VERY INTERESTING

Cover Miss TN State -- No name, 11:06:13 05/27/03 Tue

Did everybody get their scoresheets last weekend?

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[> Re: Cover Miss TN State -- Just wondering, 17:37:54 05/27/03 Tue

Was your scores wrote down in pencil then changed after the director got them. I never understood how a child can receive all 10's and not place.

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[> [> Re: Cover Miss TN State -- No name, 18:07:24 05/27/03 Tue

"Was your scores wrote down " speak English, Please.... sounds like "there bee lots you don't bee understanding"

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[> [> [> Re: Cover Miss TN State -- Can you hear me now!, 18:24:57 05/27/03 Tue

What is it that you do not understand. The only one here that is haveing a problem with speaking and writing down is you.Sounds like "there be lots you don't understand".

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SUNBURST STATE -- no name, 16:47:28 05/26/03 Mon

doesn't anyone have a complete list of winners? can you please post.very curious

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[> Re: SUNBURST STATE -- No name, 16:50:07 05/26/03 Mon

yes, would like to know runnerups and top ten.

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[> [> Re: SUNBURST STATE -- curious, 17:52:00 05/26/03 Mon

YES, THERE WAS A PARTIAL LIST POSTED YESTERDAY BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WINNERS, RUNNERS UP, AND OPTIONALS.I KNOW SOMEONE OUT THERE HAS A LIST,SURELY.

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[> [> [> Re: SUNBURST STATE -- NO NAME, 18:00:13 05/26/03 Mon

????????????????

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[> [> [> Re: SUNBURST STATE -- No name, 18:49:11 05/26/03 Mon

All the winners were right on. The judges did a great job in selecting them.

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[> [> [> [> Re: SUNBURST STATE -- mom, 18:20:15 05/27/03 Tue

YOUR CHILD MOST HAVE WON OTERWISE YOU WOULD BE SAYING THE OPPOSITE.LOL

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MISS BULLS GAP -- No name, 18:06:09 05/27/03 Tue

LOW ENTRIES AT THIS TIME--DEADLINE QUICKLY APPROACHING--GREAT AWARDS--CASH, CUSTOM CROWNS, CUSTOM BANNERS, AND MUCH MORE!!! EMAIL alilovesjr@aol.com FOR ENTRY INFORMATION...

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SUNBURST -- PAM, 21:12:51 05/26/03 Mon

Here's a partial winners list. Had to leave after the 16-23 mo's boys were crowned, so this is all I have. If there are any errors, pls forgive and make the neccessary changes.

0-11 mo's Girls Beauty: Veronica Delgado
12-15 mo's Girls Beauty: Camille Bogdan
0-4 Overall Emily Curd

*They crowned two Beauty winners in the Girls 0-15 mo's b/c they could not do simple math.

0-15 mo's Boys: Beauty King Garren Future Homo Blake
0-4 Overall Matthew in the closet Galeota

16-23 mo's Girls: Beauty Kayla Bright

Brooke Jones won: Daycare wear winner, Model Search winner, 1st R.U. Composite, 1st R.U. Portfolio, and Photogenic winner.

16-23 mo's Boys: King Jermaine Dawkins

Phoenix K. was Top 12 for Beauty, 1st R.U. Daycare wear, 4th R.U Swimwear, Composite, Portfolio and Photogenic winner.

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[> Re: SUNBURST -- No name, 16:19:47 05/27/03 Tue

LOL

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[> [> Re: SUNBURST -- No name, 17:21:55 05/27/03 Tue

where can I find all of the winners?

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HAWAIIAN TROPIC -- LMMHT, 04:34:28 05/23/03 Fri

Deadline for program book pics, cover and centerfold contest is today! Not too late to enter the pageant though....only 11 contestants registered in the entire pageant!

What a prestigious title to hold! Great for your 4th of July parade!

email pam@hawaiiantropicfun.com for more information.

Contact me by today to get your Hawaiian Tropic shirts for crowning in your size! Pool party with Hawaiian Tropic beach balls, palm tree and coconut drinks...very tropical party! much much more!

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[> Re: HAWAIIAN TROPIC -- No name, 15:54:41 05/23/03 Fri

Wow, numbers are very low. I wonder why.

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[> [> Because the judging is so wrong. Too much wondering how the judging will be! -- No name, 16:27:22 05/23/03 Fri

She counts off for little foundation but not for the fake ass hair that is sprayed!!!

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[> [> [> Re: Because the judging is so wrong. Too much wondering how the judging will be! -- No name, 16:44:35 05/23/03 Fri

Watch your language.

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[> [> [> Like I said, dont listen to hearsay -- LMMHT, 13:33:56 05/24/03 Sat

If you have a question about the judging criteria for the Little Miss and Mister Hawaiian Tropic State pageant, then please email me or check the website. I dont recall anyone getting points deducted for light foundation. And as far as your adult comments on the fake hair, if the judges can tell it is fake, then points have been deducted.

Self tanner is appropriate if it looks natural. After all Hawaiian Tropic is for safe tanning, how more safe can you get. Light foundations, powder and mascara. No fake eyelashes or fake hair pieces. Light lip stick or lip gloss is appropriate. No eye color or cheek color, eye shadow, blush or eyeliner. This is not a difficult judging criteria. Foundation put on a child to even skin tones is not going to look like too much. I have not had one single contestant counted off for foundation itself. I had judges count off for eye shadow and blush, but I keep up with the ones who have it on, and when I thought the child did not, it was not taken off. The judges are not allowed to deduct the points, they simply write it on the judging sheet. I will deduct the points once I have checked. If four people (the three judges and myself) think eye shadow, eye liner or blush is on a child, then the points will be deducted.

No one at a pageant since we have started this has been deducted points for light foundation. I have had judges deduct points for heavy eye shadow and blush. I have had judges deduct points for hair pieces on a baby that looked like a hair piece.

Points are not deducted for glitzy clothes. I have had both win, since the pageant is not based on just the clothes, attire could both score well glitzy or non if it fits well, color is good for your child. Clothes are never judged alone in any category, you have facial beauty, overall appearance, attire and personality/poise. I will be glad to email ANYONE the judging criteria or even the judging sheets.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!

Remember, please do not listen to hearsay, if I did not confirm it, it is probably not true.

www.hawaiiantropicfun.com
www.voy.com/87767/

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[> [> [> [> Re: Like I said, dont listen to hearsay -- No name, 18:33:15 05/24/03 Sat

Ok you say you deducted points for heavy eye shadow and blush, according to your judging criteria there is no blush or eyecolor allowed, so shouldn't points be deducted for any eyeshadow or blush at all, not just heavy eye shadow and blush.

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[> [> [> [> [> God, you could not word anyhing just right for you people -- No name, 08:22:05 05/25/03 Sun

you would complain no matter what way it is written. It says no eye color, no cheek color and no hair pieces. Seh was explaining how the only children who got points deducted were done because you people make all kinds of stories up! And I was at that pageant in MEMPHIS where the kid who had on a hair piece won supreme, there was only about 14 kids, and when the grand, supremes and all were pulled out she was the last one to take it, even with all points deducted she would have gotten it! 14 kids and 9 supremed. The older kids could not get the 0-3 supreme even if you had deducted all of the points in the world. Tell the whole story.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: God, you could not word anyhing just right for you people -- No name, 19:00:38 05/26/03 Mon

We were at the pg in Memphis also and the child that got the supreme DID NOT have fake hair. She is a friend of mine and they did not use anything but very light makeup. There were a few that did in the 0-3 but i think one may have gotten deducted but i am not quie sure.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: God, you could not word anyhing just right for you people -- No name, 10:43:28 05/27/03 Tue

There were lots of supremes at that pageant. The older girls did not have hair pieces on. There were some others that were very questionable. There was also a queen who had lots of make up on and a girl in that same group that was totally natural and she placed first runner up.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Like I said, dont listen to hearsay -- No name, 00:52:34 05/25/03 Sun

Just make sure your child looks natural and you'll be OK. It is a fair, honest system.

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[> Re: HAWAIIAN TROPIC -- No name, 13:05:01 05/24/03 Sat

when is this pageant?

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[> [> June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 13:48:29 05/24/03 Sat


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[> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 18:26:08 05/24/03 Sat

ok, so you can wear falls and cascades as long as they look natural? This doesn't sound like a natural pageant to me.

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[> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 18:44:19 05/24/03 Sat

The pg we went to all the kids that had on fake hair won the supremes and you could tell that the hair they had was fake! And no they did not get docked and their hair did not even match!

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 20:13:53 05/24/03 Sat

Pam ALWAYS runs a fair pageant. If you don't like the judging criteria, don't go. Only folks with positive attitudes allowed.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Bull! She had TA judging w/ his sis who lowballed & knoew contestants -- No name, 15:38:19 05/27/03 Tue

...& the child who won our group had so much hairspray it looked like a brick wall she was anything but, natural. Make up your mind Pam.. I don't trust this lady!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Start over honey TA and his sis did not judge a $50 prelim that we are discussing -- No name, 17:15:25 05/27/03 Tue

Go some where else and complain. It was two ladies judging. Get your story straight! See people how stuff gets made up! Where did that come from???????????

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 11:47:07 05/25/03 Sun

which pageant was this?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 12:21:02 05/25/03 Sun

It never happened. Everyone should know by now that there are a few women that get on here and bash because their kids can't win. Anyone that has a child that wins gets bashed on here. People make up lies to make themselves feel better about loosing.

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[> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 19:31:46 05/26/03 Mon

I don't think this is referring to the pg in memphis

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[> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 15:08:37 05/25/03 Sun

Who will there for hair/makeup?

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[> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 15:13:23 05/25/03 Sun

I saw some advertisements for tanning and hair and make up on the ht board #87767

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 10:43:14 05/26/03 Mon

You do not need a hair and makeup person. If anything it may hurt your chances of winning. Why pay someone to do your child's makeup when they are only allowed to wear mascara and lip gloss?

My child has competed and won in this system and she went natural. Save your money, go natural and you have a better chance of winning.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 10:50:39 05/26/03 Mon

where do you get only mascara and lip gloss? quit giving false info, well no one should be listening anyway, it is on the paperwork. think you are just trying to give info to help yourself a little? how old is your child.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 14:34:12 05/26/03 Mon

Well, my paperworks and the website say light natural foundation, light mascara and light lipstick or lip gloss. I hardly think you need a makeup person for that. But, if you want to put all the makeup on your child go right ahead, because I will be the first one to run and tell the director. A lot of us saw girls at one of their recent pageants in the restroom having blush and eyeshadow put on and believe me if we see this at the state pageant we will tell the director. The rules are very simple just stick to them.

Good luck to all the contestants!!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 17:20:26 05/26/03 Mon

Are you going to go to everyone's room, especially the people doing H/M to 'police the makeup'? This is getting a little out of hand don't you think. Do you honestly believe that eye makeup is going to make that big of a difference in the scores!
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE AT HT!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 18:56:26 05/26/03 Mon

Well if I understand correctly wearing eye makeup will cost you a point from each of the judges. And, if there are 3 judges losing a point from each, for a total of 3 points, could be a huge difference in who wins. The rules say no eye makeup what is so hard to understand about that. No means no.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: June 6-8. registration is 7:00-9:00 Friday evening. -- No name, 21:06:04 05/26/03 Mon

I believe that the above poster is right.
Let the judges count off that is their job not some pageant nosey moms'job. Go have fun with your kiddo and let the judges and director take care of the scores and paperwork aspect of the pageant. Make some new friends and relax. After all it is just a pageant and win or lose the world will still turn.

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