| Subject: This has to stop |
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Mrs Penny Wilson
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Date Posted: 12:23:16 05/02/12 Wed
A terrible situation has arisen this weekend just gone, and unfortunately I have had to get a solicitor involved……after a lengthily discussion yesterday, it was agreed upon that I should now go public, so what better place to start then posting on this spiritual site.
I hope the admin will be kind enough to allow this post to remain on here in support. I have nothing to hide, nor do I have to lie, what I am going to write is the truth, as since 2010 there has been a constant continuity with certain people from certain Spiritual churches relating to slanderous remarks….malicious gossiping….harassment and threats. However, I will be using names; this is not to “name and shame” nor is it a personal strategy, as I have said, I have nothing to lie about…nor do I have anything to lose; and in what I am going to post if the said persons wish to defend themselves either on here, or by phone call, or e-mail, then please feel free to do so, however, in saying that, I will be posting evidence on what has recently just taken place, I also ask that you have the maturity to use your own names if posting on here, if you have nothing to hide that is.
I can only hope this stops….however… I am under no illusion it will as I’ve said above this has been constant since 2010. I have ignored many terrible comments; I have ignored all gossip relating to myself and family, I have ignored many accusations, and have ignored terrible lies that have been spread from person to person and Church to church about me, I have even ignored people given out my address and phone number to newspapers, but following advice and support from my solicitor on the recent event this can not be ignored any longer and it has to be exposed.
I do not expect any apology from any person…..that would be expecting too much….however, I am hoping that people who call themselves “Spiritual” who stand on the rostrum preaching “Spirituality and the seven principles” will stop... take a good look at themselves and reflect on their past and present behaviour…but one can only live in “hope” that this would happen… but in saying all this…people will believe what they want to believe regardless of any evidence there may be…and nor do I expect person’s involved to have a conscience in what my family and I was put through by these “Spiritual” people in 2010 and which is still continuing today.
So let me make it absolutely clear to all involved, in 2010 I was not in Liverpool, from February up to the 22nd December…..only returning briefly to collect clean clothes before travelling back to Great Yarmouth. I am certainly not going into details on here; however, during that time in 2010 I was nursing my sister in the ICU along with qualified nurses in the James Paggitt Hospital, living in the nurse’s residence that had no internet connection….. With support from my family, friends, nurse’s Doctors etc….unfortunately as “next of kin” I had to make a very emotional decision in allowing her to go peacefully. She was brought round briefly from her induced coma in order for her to see I was there along with my niece Jenny……we were both allowed home to rest for one week…before travelling back in time for when they started gradually to reduce the life support.
In that time I was home trying to rest…..it was brought to my attention, that a Mrs Joyce Hollaway from Runcorn Church had not only gave out my full name on a public forum, but had made slanderous accusations relating to comments posted on a thread….. I can only presume this was related to the comment I had made in which I did have a phone call of Gordon Fenavs with Michelle screaming in the back ground how utterly offended she was at my comment that I did not “trust” her…yes I did make that comment I am not denying it…and I still stand by it today….”Trust” has to be built….. I had absolutely no issues with any person from there …but unfortunately they had issues with me for what ever reason. However, I was not in a fit emotional state to deal with people from there and they were not my main priority, but it was extremely sad that when I did return to Great Yarmouth my daughter unfortunately answered a phones call …thinking it was from me and was subjected to terrible abuse from an un-known caller…..which they continued night and day, I had to inform my children not to answer the phone…and to leave it un-plugged….please note I am not accusing any person from Runcorn church…..but all this started with the accusation that Mrs Holloway and possibly others had posted on here.. so by her action alone…caused a re-action. It is also my own assumption all this was related to a complaint I had made, which I do not feel compelled to openly discuss on here…..but it was certainly “not” related to any person’s in this Church I have to make that clear.
Since this episode…and many other things in-between have happened… slanderous remarks…accusations....and even threats ….all this has now escalated to a point in which open “Discrimination” and a direct “Accusation” from an officer of the SNU (Spiritual National Union) has been made and this will be allowed to continue and practiced. Although I have forwarded their e-mail to the appropriate people with in the SNU, with past experience of them dealing with complaints I am confidant nothing will happen…no action will be taken….this will be “brushed under the carpet” which is so often practiced…. and breeching of their own “rules…by-laws and code of conduct” is allowed.
I have many friends in this religion; good honest “spiritual” people….and have had many personal invites to attend different events and services….however, due to severe health problems of now, some I have had to decline. It was only recently I had a personal invite to attend a “Flower Service” on the 20th May…at a lovely Spiritual Centre which is run by true honest hard working people; I was un-aware prior to this who the serving medium was, and please let me make it clear….it would have made no difference to me either…but….It was revealed that if I walked in…this CSNU officer who represents “Spiritualism for the SNU Mrs Vicky Wrench” would have walked out (please see her comment relating to this in her e-mail) because I had mentioned via Face Book I was intending to come to this service…Mrs Vicky Wrench informed the organiser… quote “I will not be in the same room as her” and so she cancelled.
It has been made very clear what her intentions are if I was to attend any service in which she is present…she has also made a direct accusation with references to a “situation” of now….I have no knowledge of what she is referring to (please see her e-mail below) This is open Discrimination and a slanderous accusation. It is my personal opinions to which I have been shown by the behaviour of certain “spiritual” people especially one who is a CSNU officer that malicious gossiping has now not only been confined to the local Churches but has spread to possibly others from out of the area. For a CSNU officer to “manipulate” who can and who can’t attend a service…and if failure to succeed in getting their own way they cancel…is nothing more than disgusting behaviour from an CSNU officer who is representing “Spiritualism”
I have no malicious issues with any person I have mentioned….and as stated above have ignored many terrible things said…..however, this last event from Mrs Vicky Wrench who has deliberately involved another person’s…whom may I add… knew of certain events past and present but did not wished to become involved…..this behaviour from this SNU officer needs to be exposed.
I hope the people reading this post along with the evidence, will stop and reflect back to their terrible behaviour they subjected myself and family too….I am not expecting an apology in the terrible treatment I have had… because I was one of the many complainants, nor am I expecting to be welcomed back to any of the local churches…this is my own choice not to attend them and I have my own reason’s which I refuse to discuss….
I can only ask if you have issues with me please leave my family out of it…please do not involve other people…have the “Spirituality” and the “maturity” to confront me personally …all the people involved in this terrible gossiping have my number if they wish to contact me…however, I doubt very much…..they can own up to their own convictions in the wrong doing they have all practiced…..
I have made the SNU along with Mrs Vicky Wrench aware that I will be contacting the newspaper with regards to this outwardly discrimination and direct accusations that have recently been made…..in ignoring past and present allegations made by certain people of “Spiritual” churches has not stopped this…maybe now with going public it will….
Please see below copy of Mrs Vicky Wrench’s e-mail and make up your own opinions if this is acceptable behaviour from people calling themselves “spiritual” and to all persons involved who call themselves “spiritual mediums” take a good look and reflect at yourselves if your own behaviour has been acceptable….
From: Vicky Wrench
Date: 30/04/2012 17:42:16
To: penny
Subject: Re:
Dear Penny
I read your email at lunchtime on mobile unfortunately I was unable to reply to it properly then. I see you received something from my mobile which made little sense for which I apologise.
Please be advised that you cc'd your email into an old email ntl email address of mine which has not been used for some considerable time (couple of years maybe), of which I do not have any access to.
I am little confused you mention "emails" to Karen Berry as I have not sent any emails to her and would be interested to see copies of such emails if this is the case.
It is unfortunate that you may be referring to a private, very brief conversation on facebook with Karen, in which I did say I thought it best I did not attend on 20 May 2012, (as you had clearly stated on her page you were intending to attend) I did not say why I felt the way I did, but that I wished you no ill. When she asked me should she ask you not to go I specificially indicated that no that was not a fair thing to do and I would never ask anyone to exclude someone from a Church or Centre on my behalf. I was removing myself from a situation no-one else. I would not have expected the very brief conversation to be shared with anyone else as it was a personal conversation.
However it is regrettable that you did get to hear what was said as it has obviously upset or angered you. I must emphasise I would not wish to upset anyone any time either intentionally or unintentionally.
However some of the things you are saying your email I find strange....
1. You refer to my loyalty to my 'best friend Linda' I assume you are referring to Linda Marshall. For the record I have not had any contact with LM since she resigned from the District Council a few years ago.
2. You are hinting that I am either writing stuff or accusing you of writing stuff on a public forum. I assume you are referring to the Voy Forum ? This is complete nonesense.
3. I do not have a mind of my own and that I am a idiot and unspiritual. That is in your opinion.
4. If I had a problem with you I should ring you or speak face to face. As I do have your contact details who could I do that, if I did have a problem. However my contacts details are easy to find so you could have easily telephoned me.
5. You refer to 'people like you' (meaning me) what people, I do not know who you are talking about.
One thing we can both agree on though is that Voy Forum has many vile things written about many people including myself. I am aware of this as people have alerted me to it and I would love to know who the people are writing the stuff as they seem to be able to write and quote people by name, as they feel, yet they are hidden by their annominity and like you ask them to contact me direct if they have an issue. However apart from reading what has been written about me personally I have no interest in this site and would not reply or post anything on there. What is what is written untruthful and you can not argue with a lie.
I hope following this reply to your email we can draw a line under the matter and if not agree, if nothing else agree to differ.
I do not wish to get into any disagreement with you Penny and I do not go around saying stuff about you, and I am sorry if that is the impression you have of me.
Finally I am sorry to hear about your sister's illness and passing that must have been a very sad time for you.
Kind regards
Vicky
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