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Date Posted: 21:00:00 05/09/06 Tue
Author: Dee - the real Deel
Subject: Re: what is hell?
In reply to: earth tone son 's message, "what is hell?" on 08:27:09 05/04/06 Thu

>is hell the final burning of all sin in the flesh or
>is it more like a perpetual existence to which there
>is no free will present to choose a path other than
>death? i would think the latter seeing how the peace
>of a true death is now denied that lost soul; what
>greater punishment is there other than to endure
>eternity with the weight of your sins convicting your
>soul to endless suffering?


i really am not sure

but i tend to think that hell may not exist at all

from the point of view that hell was not originally in the bible and wasn't intrepreted as a place until the church or religious climate (especially in the dark ages) profited from using superstitions, stolen imagery from other philosophies such as the greeks concept of hades (which was mentioned in greek translations of the bible) and other groups or ancient civilzations including ones that existed at the early stages of judeochristian beliefs
using the image of a fiery place with eternal damnation and torments after one dies was a powerful way to manipulate people to come to church and make tithes or donations

as we know donations is money or wealth, and money is power when trying to keep politically active,
by manipulating people with fear it is easy to stir social consciousness and awareness into making decisions as a society, a kingdom without it's people or their money is powerless

which is why many people over the ages have sought to separate religion and politics, church and state,
then founded our america and still have been able to completely do that
freedom has strings attached
but true freedom is in the mind & soul
but likely also comes with a price

hell? no i don't believe in it
people create their own "realities"
if they were a bad person in life and they believe in those concepts then maybe they experience that after death
or maybe they experience hell here while living

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