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Date Posted: 08:13:14 05/10/06 Wed
Author: earth tone son
Subject: Re: free will or predetermination?
In reply to: Dee - the real Deel 's message, "Re: free will or predetermination?" on 20:41:14 05/09/06 Tue

>all apolgies for not getting back sooner
>work has been a bitch lately
>
>i feel like you are on to something here and maybe i
>can help elaborate
>
>i think people are divided over negative and positive
>aspects of the spirit mainly because of their
>awareness and mental health, fear playing a big factor
>in all of that
>humans whether we like to admit it, realise it or
>accept it we are still animals
>
>our brains are comprised of a
>
>frontal lobe
>parietal lobe
>occipital lobe
>temporal lobe
>cerebellum
>brainstem
>
>the limbic system (the many different cortical and
>subcortical brain structures)
> * Amygdala: Involved in aggression and fear;
> * Cingulate gyrus: Autonomic functions regulating
>heart rate and blood pressure as well as cognitive and
>attentional processing;
> * Fornicate gyrus: Region encompassing the
>cingulate, hippocampus, and parahippocampal gyrus;
> * Hippocampus: Required for the formation of
>long-term memories;
> * Hypothalamus: Regulates the autonomic nervous
>system via hormone production and release. Affects and
>regulates blood pressure, heart rate, hunger, thirst,
>sexual arousal, and the sleep/wake cycle;
> * Mammilary body: Important for the formation of
>memory;
> * Nucleus accumbens: Involved in reward, pleasure,
>and addiction;
> * Orbitofrontal cortex: Required for decision
>making;
> * Parahippocampal gyrus: Plays a role in the
>formation of spatial memory.
>
>in evolutionary terms, the limbic system is among the
>oldest parts of the brain and is related to the
>olfactory lobes
>it can be found in fish, amphibians, reptiles and
>mammals
>
>the prefrontal area of the cortex was sometimes
>surgically severed to cure severe emotional disorders,
>there is circumstantial evidence that the limbic
>system also provides a custodial function for the
>maintenence of a healthy conscious state of mind
>
>i believe this area if chemically inbalanced can lead
>to difficulties in decision making, delusions, and
>reverting to primitive methods of survival such as
>establishing pecking orders, sociopathic behaviors,
>depressive behaviours, antisocial behavior, isolation,
>unresponsiveness, basic fight or flight responses,
>maybe other mental health issues that in effect will
>affect the physical health of a person as well
>
>you have to figure that primitive humans had
>segregated themselves many eons ago in attempt to
>establish dominance, security and protection for it's
>people and resources
>that same genetic information has been carried within
>everyone for a very longtime and those that are less
>evolved possibly due to genetic defects, brain
>chemistry or just a general lack of self esteem,
>inability to trust in other people, or simply
>sociopathic disorders are more likely to be unbalanced
>and illogical thinkers
>
>spiritually in my opinion i think karma plays a role
>if the person was imbalanced in a previous life they
>will likely have to come back time and time again in
>order to learn their spiritual lesson(s) and evolve
>to me that part is complicated but also simple and
>wholly misterious as it is apparently intended to be
>i think if humans understood "everything" it would
>literally cause our minds to explode
>i believe the real purpose of humans is to evolve by
>experiencing the physical and mastering or
>understanding the realm that governs it, divine energy
>or God, whatever you want to call it since "it" is
>spiritual energy seeks knowledge in the form of
>humankind, animals, plants, earth, everything really
>somewhere in our spiritual agreements with the
>creator(s)and/or divine energy we made before
>inhabiting this realm, we made the conscious decisions
>to not be able to remember our purpose, our origins,
>our reason(s) for being here in order to grow and
>experience things anew
>when our lessons are learned and we pass the "tests"
>we move on to a "better place" with new "tests"
>and if fail or haven't learnt what we needed or didn't
>get or want...well we can, will or should come back
>here
>
>and then there are those that totally transform
>themselves
>and escape the "spiritual slavery" we have imposed
>upon ourselves and can experience new realities or
>even create them which i will elaborate more on later
>
>might i mention the last paragraph might all be a BIG
>maybe...
>
>=)
>
>food for thought?
>
>"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
>little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
>safety."
>-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759


okay like damn, what do you do for a living? i feel like a real ignoramus trying to come up with a response here :) anyways, i think that if the human mind could know everything, that it would cause the mind that did to become "translated" or, no longer of this earth. mastery to me of this continuum would seem to require a permanent removal from it seeing as there would no longer be any challenges meet to the newly aquired ability. perhaps the 'gods' of mythology were translated beings who were still tied to their human origins. not quite ready to evolve beyond their new level of existence, maybe a continued relationship with their lesser evolved brethren could allow them 'retrace their steps' so to speak, to remember, or to become newly inspired to shed their vestigial remains of humanity and accept an existence that those of the five senses may consider to be oblivion.

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