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Date Posted: 06:09:29 07/10/02 Wed
Author: Soul
Author Host/IP: bgrcvx035223.prexar.com / 142.167.35.222
Subject: A responce
In reply to: D1 's message, "I was gonna post a similar message here last night..." on 18:53:14 07/09/02 Tue

>I dunno... I pretty much ALWAYS hate those huge tag
>matches. What, the tag team division is DEAD and that
>sort of thing is what the give us?

I like ten man matches, though usually when they are Survivor Series elimination style. But they need to be done well, and having everyone wrestle twice in the same show wasn't it.

>Eh, chalk that kind of thing up to poor writing.

there's the statement of the century!

>LOL.. I nearly fell out of my seat watching that
>match. God, she is BAD! And people act like she's a
>mega-babe or something, I don't find her actractive in
>the least. As for Harvard... the preppy snob gimmick
>seems like something pulled from early 90's WWF. I
>think he needs a new gimmick.

Geyda is the most generic looking "diva" in the WWF. And her voice is really annoying. The should just keep her in the farm leagues from now on. As for Harvard, He's not my favorite wrestler by any stretch, BUT I think his gimmick has some legs to it where as he really is a Harvard graduate and really is that annopying. Not to mention it kind of keeps him in peoples mind whi;le he gets his wrestling tuned up. Unlike Maven who's gimmick was "the Winner of Tough Enough" and once he got injured people stopped giving a crap. I don't miss Maven THAT much.

>Hell, thet should end the "brand extension" as far as
>I'm concerned. I want to see everybody vs. everybody
>again.

I don't want to shoot this in the head yet. Sure it is far from a success, but I could find a few reasons why I like it.


>Once agian, the NWO shoulda stayed dead IMHO.

Yep. Everyone KNEW bringing those three back would be a bad idea, Everyone said that:

1)Hogan would manipulate himself to the world Title and the top of the card

2)Scott Hall would make an ass out of himself and get Fired

3)X pac would end up getting the rub since he is friends with Hall and Nash

4)Hall would be injured (either fake or legit) and would NEVER wrestle a full scedule.

And everyone of those things came true.

>Well, Kane is a RAW guy, so I'd assume he'll be on Raw
>when he gets back. His injury could'nt have happened
>at a worse time either. He was getting his biggest
>push ever and was definately getting over with the
>fans. But I'll agree, the raw roster is a bit thin.

YEAH! If Kane hadn't have been injured. I predict he would have been World Champion by now. I'm hoping that when he comes back thatthey push him to the moon.

>I gotta disaggree there. I missed the first
>taker/jeff match, but really enjoyed the ladder match.
> I think Jeff is a potential superstar, while Matt is
>a potential future Marty Jannetty. Of course, winning
>the Euro title last night puts him right back in the
>middle of the card.

The first Hardy/Taker match was a total squash. If they had built it up a little bit better instead of "undertaker gets hit a few times and then kills both Hardys" it would have been cool, but by half way through the match when the Undertaker was wiping the floor a majority of the time with Jeff, I knew the title changte wasn't there.

BUT I do agree with you that Jeff can be pushed. He does have potential, but not against the Undertaker.


>I liked him as Hardcore Champ... he really shouldn't
>be pushed beyond that level.

I agree with you there. Bubba's singles push went flatline a while ago. Unfortunatly the WWE deemed that he is some upcoming star and that he can't lose a match against Benoit or Guerrero, who in any other situation would have wiped the mat with his flabby ass.


>I really don't think Benoit could get over as top
>face. He'd a bit lacking on the charisma scale. As A
>face, sure. but not top face.

Heel or Face, I still say they should push him up to a main event soon.

>Ditto. He's actully still capable of good matches,
>but even he'll admit he's not what he used to be.
>They just need to find the right oppenents for him.

He needs a REAL reason to fight someone, not just "Wrestler A challenges/Flair acepts" deal.

>Hot dog eating contest!

Don't give Pat Patterson any ideas!

>Yeah, but they've gotta worry about keeping a public
>with the attention span of a chipmunk entertained.
>They'd REALLY have to make it interesting.

True. It would be a huge challenge with the current crop of RAW guys, but if they pulled it off it would be great.

>Too true. They don't seem to realize they've gotta
>put some thought into this stuff.

Fore Thought doesn't seem to be there strong point.

>WHAT.... WHAT.... WHAT...
>
>Heh... you're reading my mind with that one. I used
>to get pissed when HHH was champ and every raw would
>start out with 20minutes to half an hour devoted to
>HHH saying "I AM THE GAME-AH!.... I AM THAT DAMN
>GOOD-AH...." etc.

Nowadays I barely even pay attention to those long intyerveiws anymore becasue 9 times out of 10 they never amount to much.

>Yep. There have been too many titles for the last few
>years, IMHO. They might wanna consider going back to
>just the old Tag team, Intercontinental, and World
>title like the old days. Fewer titles would make the
>ones they do have seem more important.

I wouldn't go that far. I think the Titles need some reorganization. The World Title as a belt is fine with Both Shows, though I disagree with Taker having the belt. The IC belt needs a boost, Hopefully Brock will wijn it and make that division interesting. The Tag Titles need to be defended on Both Shows, B/C are the only team in both divisions and Even Matt Hardy himself said "Why do we need to team anymore since we don't have the titles to fight for anymore". The Euro title should be abolished outright. The Cruiserweight title is finally getting some competition so I'd keep that going, The Hardcore title is running stale but if they had some variety in the matches, then people would be interested. The Woman's Title i could care less about anyway.

>I wouldn't mind seeing HHH get squashed in a 30 sec
>match sometime...

Wait untill he breaks up with Steph. Then you'll see some squash matches!

>Or how about "hardcore match that starts in the ring
>and ends up in back"?

They should try a Hardcore Ladder match or one of those Hardcore Battle Royals they had at Wrestlemania 16 to spice things up a bit

>Yep, last nights show was pretty damn bad no matter
>how ya slice it.

Amen

And notice something else, After RAW was over, by Tuesday Morning Vince Ruysso split for NWA:TNA. Coincidence?

Soul Tsukino
(Smackdown isn't great either, but it is a lot better!)

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