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Subject: Re: patrick behan?


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Hoop Time
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Date Posted: 10:51:48 10/18/05 Tue
In reply to: KenZ 's message, "Re: patrick behan?" on 10:31:09 10/16/05 Sun

If there were recruits there Friday night, they were well hidden. Pat Flannery sat up top by himself and Nathan Davis and Mark Prosser were sitting together behind the men's bench.

As for Behan, I got that from a pretty good source. It did strike me as odd that when I looked for more on the kid, Bucknell was not mentioned any place. But again, the person who told me that has never steered me wrong before on anything at BU in any sport.

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Bison137
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Date Posted: 11:47:58 10/18/05 Tue

The CSTV web-site a few days ago showed Behan as having committed to Drexel. Now they have changed it and show Bucknell. That has to be a good sign.
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Dan
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Date Posted: 15:55:55 10/18/05 Tue

I know it may be nearly impossible to determine but, considering our year last year, are these guys REAL talent upgrades?
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Bison137
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Date Posted: 16:13:51 10/18/05 Tue

You're right - it is almost impossible to tell. However, based on Scout's ranking system they would seem to be upgrades at the forward spot relative to who will return in 2006-07. Both Behan and Evans get 2 stars from Scout - the first 2 star forwards ever to commit to Bucknell. The only 1 star forward was Lee. Bettencourt, though, had zero stars, which shows how hard it is to project anyone from their high school/AAU performances.

BTW, I talked to a friend who has seen Evans play. From what he remembers, Evans is a good defender who runs the court well and can finish, rebounds OK, but is not a good shooter. He is a legitimate 6'6". There was interest in him from Princeton, Columbia, and Davidson.

I know nothing about Behan but apparently he had scholly offers from St Bonaventure's, San Francisco, and Drexel, possibly others. In the middle of his junior year, there was interest from George Mason, James Madison, and West Virginia but apparently that interest died down. He is 6'7" (one source says 6'8") following a growth spurt - he was a 2 guard as a soph.
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Dan
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Date Posted: 16:41:48 10/18/05 Tue

Behan - Interesting........a 6'8" 3 who could pop up and play the 2 is really interesting. Kind of like Jeremiah Bennett... only good!?!?!?!

Evans - My gut feeling is that over the next 3 years or so Griffin will be shooting enough.
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Bison137
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Date Posted: 21:38:22 10/18/05 Tue

I think Behan's days of playing the 2 passed when he grew those 4 inches. The scouting services have him as a 3 or a 4. Given the size of the Patriot League, I imagine he will see a fair time as a 4 but hopefully one who can step out and make a shot.

You point out that Griffin will be taking a lot of outside shots, especially when Kevin is gone but I hear that Vegotsky also likes to shoot from long range without much conscience.

BTW, I had hoped that with the success of last season BU might land one player who is a cut above even the better Patriot League players. Maybe there will be a good player or two out there who will give BU another look upon failing to get an offer from a legitimate major. At this stage, we might be able to compete with some bigger Mid-Majors for this sort of "leftover". I certainly wouldn't mind finding one more legitimate big man.
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Dan
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Date Posted: 16:34:04 10/19/05 Wed

Word is the coaching staff is going gaga over Lithincum.

I agree with your assessment of Vegotsky and Griffin. With Griffin, Bucknell will have a pure scorer for the next 3 years. Who plays the point after Badmus departs?

Oh, who cares. let's just enjoy this season and hope we continue to build. Like the film, if you build it (the program that is), they will come!!!
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bison137
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Date Posted: 09:30:00 10/20/05 Thu

>>>Who plays the point after Badmus departs?<<<

I hope it would be Castleberry, who seems to have well regarded at Spalding. If he doesn't do well as a backup this winter, then that would become a major recruting priority.

>>>Word is the coaching staff is going gaga over Lithincum.<<<

Is this based on the info in Hoop Time the other day or from other sources? It would be great if he turns out to be very good. Based on the so-so scouting reports on him last year, even as a 5th year player, I thought he might be just an average Patriot League big man.
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KenZ
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Date Posted: 10:34:01 10/20/05 Thu

recruiting this year:

with two forwards committed the key needs are addressed. i would expect any third signee to be another forward or SG/swing player. would also expect that we would be limiting offers to only the highest potential players left on the list.

recruiting next year:

key needs will be a center and point guard. agree Castleberry is next in line, but we will need another true point. McNaughton and Badmus will have graduated by the time next years recruiting class is at Bucknell.
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bison137
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Date Posted: 12:47:54 10/20/05 Thu

Thanks for the info.

Do you know if Flannery ultimately can have 13 scholarship players (as allowed by NCAA rules) or is there some internal limit? Next year, by my count, there will be 10 if no-one else is signed: mcnaughton, clark, brown, griffin, mastropaolo, linthicum, vegotsky, castleberry, evans, and behan. (This assumes badmus is still not on an athletic scholarship and that morrison is not.)
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KenZ
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Date Posted: 14:32:37 10/20/05 Thu

careful, don't take my recruiting commentary to be anything more than my opinion based on a review of the current roster.

as for scholarship limits, the original Bucknell plan permits three per year for basketball. i don't know if they allow unused ones to be carries over and used in a later year or if the policy will be modified in connection with the total strategic planning process.

Badmus did not count against the self imposed limit of three per year since he did not receive a merit based aid package, however, i am confident he counts against the NCAA limit since he does receive need based aid. if not, a lot of schools would be playing games with the system.


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