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Subject: Re: Some People Don't Belong Author: M [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:47:28 04/29/02 Mon In reply to: Elihu Smails 's message, "Some People Don't Belong" on 18:13:52 04/29/02 Mon I couldn't agree more. Now if we could only get rid of Fordham, a school that doesn't meet PL academic standards... [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Some People Don't Belong Author: UND [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:43:52 05/06/02 Mon Get rid of Fordham?? Fordham is a national university when compared to the rest of the PAT league, full of small liberal arts colleges. The school is WELL on par with the rest of the league plus it has good national recongnition.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Some People Don't Belong Author: Ram-Ray [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:03:26 11/12/02 Tue Well, that is a provocative thing to say!. Fordham is a National University with a very diverse student body, powerful alumni and a rich football tradition. If you start to draw some lines at ultimate SATs, someone can come along a draw the cut-off above your school and say yours doesn't belong. Go by Baron's, Fisk, Princeton and Yale guides of the best schools. All the PL schools, including Fordham(sorry to burst your bubble), have always been listed as the best. Towson has never been listed. This is a better way to judge a school's credentials to join. If you only went by SATs, then many New York State schools would qualify as some of them have as high, if not higher SATs than many of the PL schools [by virture of the need to screen high numbers of applicants]. Would Albany and Stony Brook belong in the PL? Instead of Fordham? What do you think? This whole argument is silly.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Some People Don't Belong Author: JoltinJoe [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:51:35 05/29/03 Thu Student selectivity is only one way to measure the quality of an institution. Perhaps among the PL schools (a select group to begin with), the undergraduate admissions standards are generally higher at schools other than Fordham. But Fordham's standards are still pretty high, and would probably be higher if the school were located in a more desireable area. Let me suggest another measure of quality where Fordham ranks highest. The Gorman Report periodically ranks institutional quality from the perspective of resources: the quality of faculty, the quality of academic resources (library, computer facilities, etc.). Among the PL schools, Fordham has consistently ranked the highest in this report. In the end, I think the responders to the original post are right: Fordham is a great fit for the PL, and is an asset for the league -- and vice versa.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Some People Don't Belong Author: FU97 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:49:10 11/22/02 Fri Get rid of Fordham? You are dillusional. Get off of your pedestal.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Some People Don't Belong Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:29:57 08/26/03 Tue Delusional is spelled incorrectly.