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Subject: I may be wrong but


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 17:22:22 06/03/13 Mon
In reply to: Hillbilly 's message, "Standing on God's Promises" on 07:20:42 05/28/13 Tue

I have never read in God's Word where you confessed your sin to any individual except the one you may have wronged. Confessions were to be made before the congregation when a matter dictated that was needed but even the Old Testament priests never went so far as to forgive sins.

If you have taken your "confession" to Jesus in true repentance and humility then you have no sin to confess to the priest. Jesus has already forgiven and forgotten. It no longer exists to confess to anyone.

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[> [> Subject: I think their reasoning is to humble ourselves


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 00:27:22 06/06/13 Thu

If you confess to another person--in this case, the priest--supposedly, this is an act of penitence. The Church teaches that this is necessary to achieve a state of grace. I know I'm not explaining it well, but it's all lost on me. I agree with you that a confession should be between Jesus and the confessor.
[> [> [> Subject: I suppose that could be true today


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 06:38:34 06/06/13 Thu

but in the middle ages the confessional was what gave the priest power over the penitent. It was taught that you had to confess to the priest all your sins, not holding back anything, on the fear of hell for unconfessed sins.

While not exactly the same (but similar) the power of officials in high places in government many times hinges on what an opponent knows about you. John Roberts, chief justice of the Supreme Court, ruled a corrupt ruling on Obamacare. It is thought in many circles that he was blackmailed because the children he and his wife adopted were not legitimately adopted and the Obama administration knew this. Whether true or not it illustrates the power another can have over you if they know all about you.

God does not use our confessed sins against us but forgives us entirely.

I'm not saying you or your priest fit this scenario but with certain people it can happen.
[> [> [> [> Subject: It definitely can!


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 18:35:14 06/06/13 Thu

Some people put too much faith in their priests or pastors, and they lose touch with what Jesus is all about. You don't have to worry about me, HB. I consider my personal relationship with him to be the important thing, not my standing with the Priest.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: That's a 10-4


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 18:49:49 06/06/13 Thu

and Amen.

I wasn't really concerned but I do know that some can put a lot of pressure on people if they allow it.

I have known of pastors that were pushy, nosy and overbearing and I definitely have problems with them.


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