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Subject: When you get time, HB

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dori

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Date Posted: 11:51:30 10/17/12 Wed
In reply to: Hillbilly 's message, "Gen 49 vss 13-15 Post 219" on 08:11:28 10/13/12 Sat

Could you expand on this a little bit more? I'd like to get a better idea of the lands you're talking to and their significance to future events.
I hope the new meds are still giving Dale some relief and that your mom is healing. I am praying for them and for their devoted caretaker, Dwight. God bless.

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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 13:32:35 10/21/12 Sun

As to specifics more than what I have given I can add very little. I just don't know. I do know however the original land grant to Abraham does include the shore of the Mediterranean sea.

Below are three references to the land grant and its extent.

Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Deuteronomy 11:24 Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be.

Joshua 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.

If you take all the land the feet of the Israelites touched going in to the promised land from the side of Jordan and include the statement that their northern border was the Euphrates river you can see that Israel does not inhabit but a portion of the land promised to them. Much of the country of Jordan on the east and to the Mediterranean on the west. The river of Egypt was to be their southern border which takes in all of Gaza.

So if you drew a line from say 50 (just guessing) miles into Jordan as the eastern border stretching from Egypt to the Euphrates and then come westward to the Mediterranean you have a fair idea of the land grant.

Using this we can easily see the prophecy of the haven of ships could easily be the Mediterranean or the Sea of Galilee as both fall into the land grant. I think it means the Mediterranean because the greater number of ships. The Galilean ships were mostly fishing vessels while the Mediterranean held many cargo/passenger vessels and needed safe havens in winter because of the great storms. The storms on the Sea of Galilee could be fierce the fishing vessels would mostly ride out the storms in their home ports.

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Author: dori [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:14:46 10/24/12 Wed Now that makes me want to get out the book I bought but have only peeked at--it's a geographic view of the Bible--to see if I can find what you're referencing. Thank you so much for this extra information. You are a kind and patient teacher, my friend.