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Subject: It is so unfortunate.... Author: dori [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:28:59 07/10/10 Sat In reply to: Hillbilly 's message, "Genesis 26 vss. 7-11 Post 133" on 20:24:31 07/08/10 Thu That in our attempt in the 60s to bring about freedom from sexual repression (as seen in the eyes of the progressives and touted on all the TV shows and movies of the time) and come to a more open sexuality and lessening of guilt, we went too far the other way--to decades of promiscuity, debauchery on TV, 40 million abortions on demand, and a lessening of respect for women. Women wanted to be free to control their own bodies, and boy did they get it! In the past, when this country went to one extreme and then to the other end of the spectrum, a middle ground was reached. There is no middle ground anymore. To you, Hillbilly, there is no ground but the high ground, I know, but to someone who has two daughters who lived with their husbands before marrying them, there is a middle ground. Neither daughter was raised with loose morals and neither slept around in high school or college, but they are of a generation where this is accepted and they have seen so many failed marriages, that they wanted to be sure. Was it my duty as a Christian mother to drive them out of my house because of this? I don't think any parent should. I didn't want to drive my beloved daughters away, so I counseled them that if they were going to take up residence with their boyfriends, they must first and foremost be assured of an equal commitment from them. They were and they're both legally married--not in the church, but by law and I believe by God. I don't know if we'll ever see a return to the Donna Reed years, and in many cases I'm glad, but it sure would be nice to get back to some sort of middle ground between the Scarlett Letter and the MTV generation. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Dori, By clarification Author: Hillbilly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:45:56 07/11/10 Sun The subject at hand was the willingness of, first, Abraham and then Isaac to take on the chance of letting his wife become an adulteress and fornicator just to save his own skin. As to your point on your daughters; I also have two daughters that I love dearly. While I was not placed in your situation to have to make a decision as you. I wouldn't let my daughter sleep together with their boy friends in my house. This is not in any way passing judgment on your decision. To take the high ground is the only acceptable way in God's eyes. That doesn't mean I have in all instances taken the high ground in my own life. All have sinned and certainly I have many times. To teach God's word in truth is to teach it as it is worded and not to compromise it in any way nor try to water it down. This does not mean I have always been obedient. As a teacher of God's word I find myself many times teaching condemnation on my own actions. I guess at those times it has been "Don't do as I do but do as I say". This truly is hypocrisy in a sense but I have never known the teacher or preacher who could honestly say he hadn't transgressed his own teaching or preaching. God doesn't ask us if we agree with His word he simply says obey it. Whether we do or not is our decision but we should realize that God will and does judge us on what we do with his word.

[> [> Subject: Thanks, Hillbilly, for the clarification Author: dori [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:54:05 07/11/10 Sun I know all that you say about yourself is true because you don't misrepresent yourself. And I surely didn't mean to imply you set yourself up above others in any way. I just know you to be a man who won't compromise your values in any way and I very much admire that in you. I'm sorry if I took the study in a different direction... grin. I got your point. I guess your words just struck a chord in me that came out in this way. Did I miss something that I should have taken from this lesson?

[> [> [> Subject: I don't think you missed Author: Hillbilly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:15:36 07/11/10 Sun the point. I rather believe the situation you described was not in your control and you simply abided by the decision your daughters made. Teachings on relationships will probably always bring this to mind to you. In my case my son went against our advice and better judgment. We all have to live with his decision. I truly hope everything works out for your daughters and your sons in law.

[> [> [> [> Subject: And I wish the same for your son Author: dori [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:10:56 07/12/10 Mon It seems that we never totally stop worrying about them, do we? At least you have been given access to the twins and allowed to bring them up in the Lord as much as you can. Maybe THEY will bring your son back, eh?