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Subject: Dan Chap 9 vss 20-27 Post 47


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 17:14:47 09/12/10 Sun

Continuing now with the prophecy of the 70 weeks as found in Daniel 9:24-27 we will pick up on the seventy sevens ("weeks") that God has determined on Israel. The wording again is thus: 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

We saw in the last study that the 70 weeks could not have been 70 literal weeks but the weeks were figurative in the sense that a week wasn't a literal 7 days.. Also we saw where God had punished Israel one year for every sabbath she hadn't let the land rest. The 40 years of wandering in the wilderness was a punishment whose time element was the same as here in Daniel. Numbers 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise. The period therefore should be reckoned as 1 day of the week would work out to be 1 year. Each week therefore would be 7 years long.

Next we need to take note the prophecy has divisions in it. It is divided into 7weeks ("Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks") found in the 1st part of verse 25 and then we see another division of 62 weeks ("and threescore and two weeks") found in verse 25 also. This gives us a total of 69 weeks of years or 483 years. Reading on we find a third division to this prophecy: "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:" (Vs.27) This will be the remaining week of the 70 weeks that have been determined. In between the 69 and 70th week we find this: ("And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off") found in verse 26. We see then there was first a 7 week period , the a 62 week period making for a total of 69 weeks and Messiah is to be cut off after the completion of the 69 weeks. This event (the cutting off or crucifixion of Messiah) is not counted in the 70 weeks but between the 69 and 70th week showing there is a pause in this prophecy. Sixty nine weeks will run concurrently without a break but there is a break between the 69th and 70th weeks and this is clear from scripture. The question in this is how long does the pause or :"gap" last. There have been many who believe all this was all fulfilled by 70 A.D. or soon after. If you are one who believes this then you must deal with the result of the 70th week as given in verse 24 which was "to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.". Has all this been accomplished?

The other belief is that the 70 weeks have not been not completed but await a future fulfillment of the 70th week. The total time we have been awaiting this fulfillment is now around 2,000 years and is tied to "the times of the Gentiles" in Luke 21:24-28. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

If those of us who hold to this "gap" theory are correct then we are coming to the end of the "times of the Gentiles". What began in Daniel 2 with the revealing of the world powers is now down to the toes of the image that Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream. The Jews are again a sovereign nation and the stage is set for the final act which will see the "prince" of verse 26 arrive on the scene. This prince will be the anti-Christ who will make a covenant with Israel. Notice how the scriptures treat the two princes that are found in Daniel 9:20-27. In verse 25 we have "Messiah the Prince" with the writer capitalizing Prince. In verse 25 we see "the prince that shall come" is not capitalized. He is an entirely different prince and we can understand this person to be the anti-Christ.

In the next study on this we will visit the actual historical elements of the prophecy and also look at three other 490 year periods in the history of Israel. Each has a break or pause which we could rightly label as a gap in these periods of Jewish History.

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[> Subject: That's so ominous...." the prince that shall come"


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dori
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Date Posted: 21:30:06 09/15/10 Wed

Is there a charismatic person in the Middle-East who will step forward, do you think?
[> [> Subject: In or from


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 17:45:15 09/16/10 Thu

the Middle East According to Daniel 8:5-12 the anti-Christ will come from one of the "4 horns" that came up from the "notable horn". If you remember in our study on that part of Daniel the he-goat is identified as Greece with the notable horn as Alexander the Great. When he died in Babylon his empire was divided between his 4 generals. The "little horn" (anti-Christ) comes out of one of these 4 horns.(vs.9) That it is the ant-Christ there can be little doubt because of what transpires in verses 10-12 of Daniel 8. My guess is that it will be in the Syria/Turkey area.

It is very possible an even likely that the anti-Christ will be like Obama. Obama the Kenyan is credited with an American birth although there seems to be no proof.

One of the hang-ups the Pharisees had with Jesus was that He was known as a Galilean although his birth was from Bethlehem. The prophecy was for the Messiah to come from Bethlehem

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

This was a great sticking point for the Pharisees and they were vocal and adamant in their objection to this Galilean.
John 7:52 They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet.

Because of the scriptures that identify his origin it would not surprise me if his actual place of nativity was obscured in order to hide his true identity.
[> [> [> Subject: I was making a comparison


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 05:31:06 09/17/10 Fri

of how that Jesus' birthplace was obscured. Most thought He was from Galilee from birth. His actual birthplace was hidden to them. They were looking for the Messiah to come from Bethlehem which He did, but as a very young child he was moved to Galilee.

The anti-Christ we are looking for will come from the middle east but he may live somewhere else to hide his birth. Those looking for a specific area to identify him might be fooled because of his birthplace being hidden from them.

The analogy of Obama fits. Most of the world thinks he was born in Hawaii but I believe he was born in Kenya.

Hope this makes it clearer. Sorry for the confusion :)
[> [> [> Subject: No apology necessary, Hillbilly


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dori
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Date Posted: 18:07:27 09/17/10 Fri

I'M the one who had the problem, not you. Now I understand... grin. Thanks!
[> [> Subject: You mean at the time?


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dori
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Date Posted: 22:58:36 09/16/10 Thu

Or in later recountings? I don't understand the last lines of your post. Very blond tonight. 8-)


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