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Subject: Hillbilly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 10:35:49 11/21/10 Sun

Glenn Beck has been talking all week about grocery prices going thru the roof and stressing that people need to begin to prepare for food shortages and stock up on enough for each member of the family. He is a Mormon and, of course, the Mormons are encouraged to have a year's supply of food on hand for emergencies.

Also Bill Koenig of Koenig's International News had the following in his weekly news letter;

This week's news report discusses the globalization of a new monetary standard based on gold. This standard could impact the purchase of goods around the world and set artificial values on things like food.

Already, the United Nation's Food and Agriculture Organization is reporting that global food imports will top $1 trillion in 2010. And because of what the FAO says are "unexpected downward revisions to crop forecasts in several major producing countries, world prices have risen alarmingly and at a much faster pace than in 2007/08" - when another food shortage occurred.

Given the economic conditions of nations around the world - that they are all in great debt to one another - it is no long-shot analysis that weather-related crop reductions combined with hyperinflation could very well bring food prices to the level that we see prophesied in Revelation 6:6 (NKJV) - "A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny."

In this scenario, the price of wheat, for example, would be approximately $2.20 a measure. A bushel of wheat would cost over $70. A loaf of bread, by many estimates, would cost about $20, but that is based on a day's wages from biblical times. Therefore, a loaf of bread might cost about $60 based on today's minimum wage.


As I believe both of them are Godly men who read their Bibles daily I think God is using them to get a message out to his people to prepare.

Now as I understand it in the "last days" there will be a worldwide economic collapse worse than anything the world has ever seen bringing with it untold misery and violence but it ushers in the antichrist who is worshipped by the majority of the people but those who do not follow him or take "the mark of the beast" (Christians) will be hunted down and killed.

Do you think we are on the threshold of these happenings? I do and I believe it's closer than we think but so is the Rapture. PTL!

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[> Subject: Yes we are on the threshold.


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 15:24:52 11/21/10 Sun

Matthew 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

While it is always a good thing to be prepared for emergencies we need to realize famine has always been just a drought away. Give the current economic circumstances and the amount of people out of work a drought at this time will be very serious if not catastrophic.

While millions will be in want and need this will be the opportunity for the government to end the republican form of democracy that we have enjoyed for 200 years.

I would suggest you read the story of Joseph in Egypt starting with chapter 41 of Genesis. Joseph took the possessions of the Egyptians in exchange for food until the Egyptians owned nothing and Pharaoh (the state) owned everything.

The story of Joseph in Egypt is a picture of the end times and the governmental set up. It ends up with a one world power or government.

Those of us who live in the country will fare better than the city dwellers for the most part. Many of us can live off the land for a while. Our problem will be in guarding what we have to keep the nave nots from taking all they can.
[> [> Subject: Hillbilly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 11:46:54 11/22/10 Mon

The story of Joseph in Egypt

John Hagee did a series on Joseph called "From the pit to the palace." I thoroughly enjoyed it and learned much.

[> [> [> Subject: For an emergency stash


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 19:32:18 11/22/10 Mon

I would load up on dried beans, rice, peas and canned goods.
The dried beans and rice are inexpensive and will keep forever as long as they are kept dry.

When thinking of emergency items I don't think of fresh. Many also are going for the dried meals. Dehydrated fruits and vegetables and such. These, if bought and not prepared at home, are fairly expensive though.

Just a thought.
[> [> Subject: Hillbilly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 11:55:07 11/22/10 Mon

Those of us who live in the country will fare better than the city dwellers for the most part.

I live in the city in a small town. Every Saturday there's a farmers market where you can buy all kinds of fresh fruits and vegetables brought in by local farmers from the surrounding area. There's also plenty of roadside stands in California. That is one reason food in California is relatively cheap. If the government shuts them down it will devastate these small farmers and also drive prices thru the roof.

In the large grocery stores a lot of the fruit and vegetables is brought in from Mexico, Guatemala and other Latin American countries. Needless to say it's more expensive and not as good as the local produce because it has to be picked before it reaches full maturity.
[> Subject: That's what Bill predicts will be a huge concern, too


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 21:36:22 11/21/10 Sun

Those who prepare ahead of time will have to guard against those who didn't taking what they have. I imagine a gun will be necessary. I guess we'll be in big trouble, since Charlie is against having a gun in the house. Bill has been prepping for many years and can give good advice if anyone is interested.
xoxoxo
[> [> Subject: Well Dori


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 19:57:38 11/22/10 Mon

Sorry Charlie feels that way about guns in the house. There may well come a time he will wish he had one handy.

For 7 years I was a professional gunsmith. That is all I did. My Grandfather on my mother's side was a gunsmith and watch/clock repairer as well as general tinkerer.

My dad was career army and all in my family were raised to use firearms. My children were raised with them and they never took liberties with them as they were taught from a young age not to touch unsupervised.

My oldest daughter had the keenest eyesight of any youngun I ever was around. She could dance cans with a .22 at 125 yards using a peep sight and an old German .22 cal. WWII training rifle. It was a copy of their issue bolt action 8mm Mauser rifle.

All my children were taught to use firearms and use them safely. I have given my wife a .38 special revolver and she knows how to use it.

I keep a .45 automatic, 2 38 Smith and Wesson Revolvers and a .22 rifle loaded at all times.

God forbid the need ever arise but if it does I am prepared to defend my family. I am not willing to take the chance that someone would hurt my twin granddaughters or my wife or in that case anyone under my roof or on my property.

If an emergency situation ever presented itself the police are not close enough to help. By the time they could receive a 911 call everyone could be dead. That's the reality of today. All anyone has to do is watch, read or listen to the news to know this is true.

Just my 2 cents. Adjusted for inflation of course. :)
[> [> [> Subject: Oh, I agree, HB


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 00:07:57 11/24/10 Wed

He just feels they are dangerous because many times people are killed or wounded with their own guns that were taken away from them by intruders and turned on them. He is stubborn about things when he sets his mind to it. I just hope and pray we are never in that situation. But if we ever DID get a gun, I would insist that everyone in the house learn how to use them, that's for sure.
[> Subject: Hillbilly/Dori


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 10:12:17 11/22/10 Mon

According to Eric Erikson, Red State, the government take-over is already on the way.

Yesterday, the Senate voted to take up consideration of S.510, the so-called Food Safety Modernization Act, which would grant the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) more control over our diets. The supposed intention behind the legislation is to protect consumers from food-borne illnesses. But will it really?

If passed, the misnamed Food Safety and Modernization Act would authorize the FDA to tell farmers how to grow their crops. Federal bureaucrats who likely know little to nothing about farming will set the guidelines on appropriate temperatures, what soil to use, how much water to use and what animals are allowed to be on certain fields.

A study by Senator Tom Coburn’s (R-OK) office states “on the whole this bill represents a weighty new regulatory structure on the food industry that will be particularly difficult for small producers and farms to comply with (with little evidence it will make food safer)”

Sen. Jon Tester has introduced the “Tester Amendment” which would allegedly prevent these harmful regulations from affecting small family farms. However, Campaign for Liberty says these regulations will still be imposed on whoever the FDA decides. It could even affect your home garden if you sell vegetables or fruits at a local farmers market.

President John Tate states: “Don’t fall for their rhetoric about a few provisions that supposedly address concerns of small-scale farmers; the FDA still has all the power it needs to shut down family farms on a whim. In other words, it will be up to bureaucrats to decide whether or not local food production is decimated by federal regulations or shut family farms on a whim. In other words, it will be up to bureaucrats to decide whether or not local food production is decimated by federal regulations or shut down.”


Kinda scary to see how quickly Bible prophecy is being fulfilled but it also puts the lie to those who say "there is no God."
[> [> Subject: Prayerfully


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 19:39:14 11/22/10 Mon

This last election and the next will stop a lot of this nonsense.

I think the people are fed up and I know I am.

I pray the grassroots movements such as the tea party will grow by leaps and bound and scare the wits out of the established politicians in this country.
[> [> Subject: Not only scare the wits out of them, but......


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 00:10:48 11/24/10 Wed

Vote the incumbents out and replace them with straight-shooters. That is my fervent prayer!


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