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Date Posted: 17:58:43 07/30/02 Tue
Author: also copied from the bravo board
Subject: pageants

This is a good post explaining why so many of us don't do the high glitz pageants. -- Sunburst director, you need to read this., 15:30:43 07/30/02 Tue (cache-db02.proxy.aol.com/205.188.208.38)
There are numerous reasons...but I think most are obvious just looking at this board. 1. COI. We don't compete based on who we know and what vendors we would use. I like going to a pageant where we know no one and can win anyway. Much more fun when I am not epected to kiss anyone else's behind. 2. Adult, out of date hairstyles. Has anyone actually looked at these kids? If you took them out of the context of pageant they would look like freaks. Their hair is a foot high and two feet wide and sprayed stiff. What is appealing about that? It is grossly out of date. Heck, the soap stars always had the biggest of hair, even when REAL big wasn't the thing and from what I see at the check out on the grocery isle (we don't watch television in my home) even they are with the times...wearing sleek blunt styles or short trendy ones. Big hair went out a long time ago. Stiff hair looks really un- natural. Why strive for this? 3. Makeup. I don't mind putting a touch of makeup on my child for stage lighting purposes, but come on ladies...your kids look 4 times their age and sometimes not even real. BTW, if your child's face looks plastic in a photogenic pic what is the point? 4. Photogenic pics. Is it even moral to make up young children to look like full grown made up women? I definitely do not think so. I've seen some photogenic pics at the state level that were actually really GOOD photogenic pics. (Not these guru pics) and the child looked like a child. These supposed national level pictures are just plain sad. There is someone selling a blue gingham hat and top for photoshoots on ebay and they posted the child's photogenic shot. It's horrific. While that child almost resembles a child (unlike many) the face looks plastic and the expression forced. Come on ladies...don't you think your children are beuatiful unless they are made up like that? Why else would you do it? 5. Competition. Every normal person who knows anything about children KNOWS that competition is not healthy for young children. When you get sucked into the glitz pageants you get sucked into the "have to win" syndrome. My daughter does natural and middle road pageants and does extremely well. I never even use the word win with her. I want her to have fun....anything else is just bonus.


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I wanted to say now before someone started comparing isp's, AOL is not rotating isp's like they should be, don't try to match this with any banners because 9 times out of 10, it will not be the same person. (NT) -- No name, 15:34:56 07/30/02 Tue
OMG I sure hope not..lol. Because some of my numbers from my banners match up with that..lol. THis is a little odd? What is the deal with that? (NT) -- Stephanie, 15:39:14 07/30/02 Tue
There is plenty of COI in natural pageants. Parents that know the judges and directors. I have also seen the need to win mentality there also. As far as hair and make-up you are entitled to your opinion and what you do with your child is your business and what I do with mine is mine. (NT) -- No name, 15:38:17 07/30/02 Tue
OK, you lost me at the competition part of your post. Everyone knows competition is not good for children???? Hmmmm...that is really interesting since just about everything in life is a competition, including in the classroom, whether it is who can read the most books, who can get the most good behavior points, who can win the spelling bee, who can have the best attendance, who can run the 50 yd dash the fastest, etc. etc. I could go on and on. Competition NOT good? I don't think so, sorry. (NT) -- Anonymous, 12:33:47 07/30/02 Tue (NT) -- No name, 15:41:50 07/30/02 Tue
Also, you say that competition is not healthy BUT you still put your child in pageants? WHAT???? If you REALLY felt so strongly about it, you'd have nothing to do with it. Sounds to me like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth! (NT) -- No name, 15:43:58 07/30/02 Tue
Competition is NOT healthy if a child feels that no matter how hard they try, they CAN NOT WIN. That causes it to be unhealthy. It causes the loss of confidence. (NT) -- No name, 15:51:43 07/30/02 Tue
That is NOT what the above post says. It says "Every normal person who knows anything about children KNOWS that competition is not healthy for young children". Then they go on to talk about COMPETING in non-glitz pageants which is apparently just fine. THAT competition is OK, lol. (NT) -- No name, 16:07:55 07/30/02 Tue
That is NOT what the above post says. It says "Every normal person who knows anything about children KNOWS that competition is not healthy for young children". Then they go on to talk about COMPETING in non-glitz pageants which is apparently just fine. THAT competition is OK, lol. (NT) -- No name, 16:08:23 07/30/02 Tue
Pageants -- No name, 19:03:11 07/30/02 Tue
I STRONGLY disagree about the "competition not being good for children", IT IS A PART OF LIFE, and I am speaking as a mom and a teacher. Now I know competing in pageants is always going to be debatable, but I STRONGLY disagree about your statement concerning competition. Children have to LEARN to work for what they get, and they have to learn disappointment as well, sorry, but life is JUST not that easy. (NT) -- No name, 19:10:56 07/30/02 Tue

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