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Subject: Re: Christianity: The World's Most Backwards Religion Author: B. Bellrook [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Thu, Jul 29 2004, 5:36:08 In reply to: E. Popp 's message, "Re: Christianity: The World's Most Backwards Religion" on Mon, Jul 26 2004, 14:46:58 E. Your open mind, displayed by saying something such as "always learning" is something that many people do not have. I try to understand most things, and it is because of my curiosity and natural desire to hear everyone's story that I came across a great paradox. Take Satanism, as a fine and typical example of what Christianity is not. Christians all around the world listen more to the name of religion than its followers. Do you know that I have met several Satanists, and not one of them worships Satan? How can someone be a Satanist if they don't worship Satan? It's like with Christianity, although there are slight differences. In Satanism, many people simply follow the ideology behind Satan's attitude (hence the name of the religion). "This is my decision to make, I'm going to make it, and no matter what the outcome it is the right decision because it is MINE." A simple philosophy. But what about Christians? "Do what God wants," they say. But we all know how temptation goes along. So what makes Christianity backwards? Tolerance. Judgements. I know all about the Bible's thoughts on rebuking and teaching, but it also tells Christians not to judge, lest they fall under judgement as well. Why does every Christian I know at one point or another say, "You shouldn't hang around with THOSE TYPES of people." What types? There are no types. There are just people. What about the tolerance? What about hospitality? Welcoming a stranger into your home is one thing, because of the danger of the modern world. But a friend of the family in need, and you can't take him in because it's too expensive, or you don't want the liability? C'mon! In other religions, as skewed as some may think them to be, there are rules to follow and obey. But I have yet to meet a Wiccan who throws around harsh judgements. I've never met an atheist who won't listen to what a Christian has to say, although they know they're going to reject it anyway. I haven't ever met a Satanist who didn't want me to hang around his children. Why are Christians the ones TEACHING peaceful living, and then displaying so much hatred towards other religions, other people, other lifestyles? I agree that there is right and wrong, but shunning someone for their wrong, while safe for you, only exiles them. And I see Christians do it every day. I used to do it, because it's what I was told growing up. I could go on for hours, but I think this is quite enough for now. Reply again. It is an interesting topic, and I love discussion. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: For Satan to be worshipped.... Author: Nucc [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2004, 4:46:32 ....doesn't mean you have to bow down to him. He is worshipped merely by rejecting the true gospel of Jesus Christ. It's like saying as a human being I am a man. This implies that since you are a man you are NOT a woman. In the spiritual world there is ONLY TWO. True Christianity and everything else. If you reject true Christianity, that automatically makes you a worshipper of Satan by your rejection.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: For Satan to be worshipped.... Author: B. Bellrook [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 2:15:06 So, what you are basically saying is that because a person does not follow one particular type of Christianity, they are automatically, irrevocably a worshipper of Satan? Besides, it isn't intended to change the topic to satanism. The point is that there are many religions out there that offer more encouragement and hospitality to people than Christianity. And the statements that you made show exactly what I mean. If I were someone only THINKING about Christianity, and not sure yet if I wanted to become a part of it, you would have just turned me away by saying that. But would you have said that? Of course not. You would have made it sound chipper to become Christian, and dire to not become Christian, but you would not have said, "You aren't a Christian? Than you're a satanist! Quickly, repent!" You would have charmed them into the idea. Isn't that the point? Either way, regardless of what you say, my topic remains the same: Christians (as individuals that represent a group) do many things that are absolutely appalling, and it turns people off. Not only that, but they reverse their own words, and the words of their Christ, in every day action and circumstance. One more time, just to make sure you have it...satanism was brought up as a for-instance, not as a scapegoat. I would ask that you not change the subject.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Response over a year later Author: Nucc [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, Aug 29 2005, 6:13:40 Sorry it's taken so long. You've brought up a logical point that in some cases it IS TRUE that it appears that other religions show more hospitality and encouragement than some Christians. My point in my response is in agreement with what Jesus said; John 14:6 6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (NIV) IOW if you reject Christ as He is, it doesn't matter how nice you are you show you're against Him. Anyone that is not for Christ is against Him. Matt 12:30 30 "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. (NIV) It's either one OR it's the other. Many claim to be Christian that just do nice things. Doing nice things and CLAIMING to be a Christian does NOT MAKE YOU a Christian. A true Christian will always point to glorifying God in Christ. I think you have misjudged Christians.