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Date Posted: 14:35:19 03/02/01 Fri
Author: JL
Author Host/IP: hse-mtl-ppp4391.qc.sympatico.ca / 209.226.106.82
Subject: Re: well
In reply to: KM 's message, "Re: well" on 23:00:01 02/28/01 Wed

I understand where you're coming from. However you are only able to see the situation from the outside. That perspective is limited. Just recently a kid from Spain who was 30th at the world Juniors went there, at the same time as me. He left after a year and a half. I know exactly why he left and so does the countless others who have come and gone. There is one bad apple at Iona and it's Mick plain and simple.
I know he didn't pull a Gauthier and leave his team (FSU) which to you might make him look good. I can't say anything further about UTC cause I've never been there. They recruited a good group of Canadians this year. But they also recruited a very good group before. I know how that turned out. Don't speak on the behalf of Iona let those of us who've battled through the misery of the place do the talking. I hope the best for Nigel so I don't mind putting up the red flags. Believe my Kyle you don't know Iona.


>After all that typing I F'd it up anyway. I left out
>the word "Dont" from the following sentence, making my
>opinion very hard to follow. So, I meant to close with
>
>"I DON'T think one bad apple Canadian at Iona, who
>wasn't anything too flashy in HS anyway, makes it a
>bad school."
>
>p.s. I don't personally know this kid who went to Iona
>and it could have been crazy circumstances that made
>him leave for all I know, but I still don't think one
>case makes it a bad school.
>
>
>
>>Well put. I think the Canadian development system for
>>Juniors is far superior to that in the US. We aren't
>>raced near as often during the high school year, are
>>able to run (in ontario at least) in a top notch
>>championship meet like OFSAA that makes most State
>>meets look silly, we have a much more established and
>>active club system allowing us to race longer into the
>>summer and throughout the winter. Some US kids are
>>able to have these opportunities, but most aren't and
>>therefore are greatly benefited by moving to a more
>>structured and competitive college system. My point is
>>that we (as Canaucks) are for the most part much more
>>developed when we arrive in the US. This brings us in
>>as freshman with much faster PB's than most americans.
>>As WVU stated if you think you can ride this success
>>all of the way to All-american status and
>>international fame you couldn't be more wrong. You
>>have to take this advantage and capitolize on it like
>>Ryan Hayden has. I am sure when he got to Nova he
>>didnt assume just because he was a phenom that a pass
>>to NC's would be arriving in the mail, sucess like his
>>takes lots of talent, but even more hard work.
>>Anyhow, long story short, in most cases I think we go
>>in at an advantage, but the improvement curve is much
>>greater for an american kid who went to some high
>>school in Asscrack Alabama and had a tool for a coach
>>that had him play football to get fit for the mile,
>>while we where busy training. It can be rather
>>disheartening when a kid you are 10 seconds up on in
>>the 1500 from high school is all of the sudden
>>whipping your ass because he is now benefiting from a
>>decent coach at a college level.
>>If you go into a school willing to work and willing to
>>accept that you might have your ass handed to you
>>every day in practice without getting your feelings
>>hurt, then a school like Iona could be great for you.
>>Ricardo Santos went from a mid 8:20's 14:50's HSer to
>>an 8:06, sub 14:15, NCAA All American in XC, that's
>>not too shabby. You can look to guys like Bohan,
>>Watson and Alison at WVU who where all relativley good
>>in HS and who now after perservering through the odd
>>injury and off season are now in the region of 29:00,
>>14:00 and 3:45 respectivly.
>>I think one bad apple Canadian at Iona, who wasn't
>>anything too flashy in HS anyway, makes it a bad
>>school.
>>
>>p.s. Canadians are obviosuly far superior to americans
>>anyway so it is a shame to go down there and perform
>>sub par. I think the crop of HS'ers heading down next
>>year should make some definite waves if they keep
>>there heads on straight and not forget what made them
>>good in the first place.
>>
>>
>>>Iona College is a great choice for school. The Coach
>>>does favor European's in his program, yet will do
>>>anything in his power to ensure his athletes run to
>>>there potenial. If you are an athlete good enough to
>>>run for Iona and arrive on campus ready to do
>whatever
>>>it takes to run fast you will succeed. The mistake
>>>many Canadians make when going away to school is that
>>>they think they are a lot better than they really
>are.
>>>The talent is there but those athletes from the
>states
>>>that we think we are better than, improve at a faster
>>>rate than we do. This can cause a lack of confidence
>>>and thus poor races. Usually at this point the
>boozing
>>>starts. Dont forget what made you fast in the first
>>>place. This being a good coach and hard work. Mick is
>>>a great coach and the rest is up to you. If you
>arrive
>>>on campus and think talent and boozing will get you
>>>through, you will fail....
>>>
>>>More Canadians should go to school at Iona !!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>All I can say is if you go there you can't say you
>>>>weren't warned. Greame Reid is a 8:05 type guy
>>running
>>>>a lot slower. I was there I seen for myself, Ricardo
>>>>is a hermit so he would have liked it where ever he
>>>>went. Ricardo also went to my high school. I thought
>>I
>>>>knew him. You can't always see the snakes in the
>>>grass.
>>>>>mick is a good guy and ricardo liked it there

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