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Date Posted: 15:44:16 08/10/02 Sat
Author: Phae
Subject: You're not apartment hunting .... you'll be at a bar watching the Twins!! ;-)
In reply to: UHC 's message, "Well Hey I've got a minute or two" on 10:21:09 08/10/02 Sat

I believe Xander's trying to woo back Anya may be the last ditch effort on his part to get back together. Afterall, he comes into a little money. Has gained some confidence after saving the world. Still has feelings for Anya. So, yes, I believe this spoiler is to tie up the loose end that is Anya/Xander.

Now, as far as forgiveness is concerned ... there is nothing to forgive. Oh wait, that's right ... Anya must forgive Xander for leaving her at the altar. Then during their conversation after Hell's Bells when she wanted to hear commitment from him, he just couldn't (wouldn't) commit. So, after their conversation, there was no possible way she could have felt that Xander loved her (yes, cared about her, but love and wanted to be with her for the rest of their lives ... no). So Anya must forgive him. The future of their relationship is not hinged on Xander "forgiving" Anya of her sin of sleeping with Spike. The future of their relationship hinges on both of them able to pick themselves up from the disaster that started in Hell's Bells, and move forward. With no residual hatred. The trust in the relationship will take longer to repair ON BOTH THEIR PARTS!!

So, I see this as a healthy, strong, move on Xander's part to let the past rest.

I haven't heard one spoiler indicating Xander is "ok" with Spike. I'm betting he will NEVER be "ok" with Spike around.

Why the Hell does he need to forgive Buffy for sleeping with Spike? I don't get this. He did not seek any of their approval when he got involved with Anya - responsible for The Wish fiasco. Friends are friends and will stick with you through thick or thin. Forgive is not the word I would use here for the situation between Xander and Buffy. They need to come to an understanding that their friendship is important and that they support each other. But, if I were Buffy and Xander walked up to me and said "I forgive you for sleeping with Spike." I'd be all sarcastic and say, "oooo, THANK YOU, I was so worried that you could never forgive me for SLEEPING WITH WHOMEVER I WANT!!!"

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Anya did it knowing that Xander still loved her so it was a little close to cheating not quite but she was still in full knowledge that she was hurting him.
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I do not believe Anya intentionally went into the situation to hurt Xander. And I believe that she did NOT know Xander still loved her. I believe she felt that there was nothing for her there. Xander's love had turned cold or was never strong enough to begin with. She did not cheat. They were no longer together. She was not in full knowledge that she was hurting him because she did not go into it intending to sleep with Spike (it just moved beyond comforting words to comfort sex) and, had the cameras not been there, Xander would have been non the wiser (not saying that makes it right, but the intent was NOT to hurt Xander).

K. That said, I think Spike's got some trust to build up, some things to prove, and I don't think it will matter one iota to Xander.

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[> [> Phae.......why does your post sound like it comes from a man, and...... -- Lijdrec, 17:15:20 08/10/02 Sat [1]


........mine sounds like it comes from a woman??


hehehehe!


;-.)


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[> [> [> Whew! You're right. My answer does sound more manly than yours!! ... ;-) -- Phae, 17:34:44 08/10/02 Sat [1]

Good response! I agree - amends are required all around.


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