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Date Posted: 06:56:34 06/17/08 Tue
Author: True Dat
Subject: Re: Top 10 teams nex yr
In reply to: DAT DUDE 's message, "Top 10 teams nex yr" on 20:56:01 03/16/08 Sun

Yea this is true because i saw Von play this past weekend at Depaul and Terry is carrying that team and the 2010 players are the only ones doing something, but i really am glad that Kiki and devynn were really good in 8th grade because they haven't inproved since so they still do play well from time to time and omg Morgan sucks shes get at least 10 Turn overs a game no one wants a PG that can't handle the ball, and Romi has not only gotten better since 8th grade she even improved since she left CHE you can tell she had her confidence back and is shooting better than ever...but i don't believe its the kids fault its coachin, and its their parents fault for lettin their kids play under Sha, i don't know if its family issue in her way but she honestly doen't care about her team, look at any one that has played for her, Tati a GREAT player could have played any where in the world but went to college and couldn't handle the fact that the coach actually made her work so she quit, look at Danisha a fucking failure to herself and the Von name she is doin nothing wit her life now a good player and now a no body did she even graduate? so if the players before the 09 class were failures how do u expect them to do well? its not the the kids fault its coaching, thats why the only ppl that will do something with their lives is the 2010 and 2011 player that decided to stay wit CHE not not play wit Sha all year round

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[> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- baskets, 09:10:53 06/20/08 Fri

Questioning the abilities and desire of Sha,is absurd.If she didn't care why would she start the Demons again.She has the best interest of these kids at heart.Everyone knows that the summer before you graduate can be crucial in the recuritment of a player.The removal of the kids from CHE,was to give these kids that exposure they certainly wouldn't have gotten from CHE.CHE is an outstanding program and nobody doubts that,but Sha has had these young ladies before they were teens.As a whole unit Von has not reached what was expected and as players they know it.To ridicule a kid on this board about thier development is uncalled for.We who observe and watch place expectations on these kids that may never reach,then we call them failures.The transition for grammmar school to highschool is vast.Most kids you were percieved to be excellent in gradeschool,don't also make great highschool players for some reason or another.The objective of the student athlete as well as the coach is to play at the next level at no cost to the family.If any child goes on to be a productive person in society,then what they accomplish as a team is friutless.I'm sure they desire to do more than thay have as a team.but to call them out is absurd.

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[> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- Truth Hurts, 11:28:24 06/20/08 Fri

I'm sorry but the truth hurts i must a agree Sha doesn't care about the players anymore and that is a great point that was made that Sha hasn't produced not one successful ball player out of all her years of coaching not one player successfully played at the next level, and the only one that have a chance is KiKi....but like Tati she will probably quit because the college workouts will be to hard...

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[> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 14:02:10 07/01/08 Tue

Having watched Sha Hopson in action she is one of the most fundalmentalist coaches I know. What you see from her players is NOT indicative of her coaching abilities. Players have to want to play and be the best they can be and I can not say this is the case with some of the Von Players. I believe they think they already are great and the fact of the matter is some are out of shape and most have other things on their minds other than a basketball sholarship. To say Sha or JD has not given these kids the basketball tools to succeed is ludacris. I am a supporter of Sha Hopson and I beleieve she is a good coach and person. Most of you have no idea what went into making these kids basketball players and what coaches go through outside the lines to keep kids on the right path. The most important thing for these kids is that they all will graduate. Sha hopson has not had one kid to drop out of highschool or have a child. Give Sha credit because she has helped these girls when no one else cared.And yes, Danisha Cole graduated. Sha Hopson keep doing your thing and if no else gives you props for the job you are doing I will.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- sportsjunkie, 08:50:36 07/02/08 Wed

I agree with you 100%,Sha is a great teacher of fundamental basketball offensively and defensively.For the last five years or so I have had the pleasure to see her teams on numerous occasions.To question her coach abilities is absurd.Defensively I have not seen any of her teams not play an agressive style of pressure defense.I.m sure as a coach she has had moments of displeasure with the core of players she has now.To say that they have underachieved is not far-fetched and as players I'm sure they know if they play for Sha.What most outsiders don't realize is that this core have players have been together for sometime now.Most programs add to yearly,for whatever reasons Von hasn't.Maybe it's a gesture of loyalty on Sha's behalf to her girls and the excellaration of thier futures.I beleive that's the case and she deserves kudos for that alone.Winning is icing on the cake for those who have true intentions on getting thier kids to the next level with leaving others in the program wayside.Sha's committed to her kids and program,a team is a reflection of thier coach in alot of ways.Von is decent but not great,they could be better but they lack the killer instinct that Sha diplays in practices and on the sideline.To say that they think they are great is kind off base just as well as the comment of being out of shape.She instills a rigorous conditiong program for these young ladies.As a team they know they could be better and have not progressed in the city and state format by not utilizing the talent they have.Most viewers say they have not gotten any better since eighth graders and the class of 09 is disappointing.Remember two years ago they achieved more than any previous Von girls team.Thier 09 class has been up and down,Baker just regaining confidence and full strenght in her knee.Brandon a very good pg that had a very heavy load of being the primary ballhandler.Powell very good in the post,but should extend her dominant play outside of conference play.Sometime in big games she not there mentally.Water's has a game but needs to step up as she displayed early last season with confidence.I think Taylor though less talented than some of her teammates is an example of what Sha wants in all her players heady.agressive and displaying confidence.A.Johnson can also be mentioned with Taylor,she jusst lacks the shooting ability of Romesha.They play thru T.Taylor an unbelievablly gifted player who has a knack of scoring around the basket with ease.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 11:28:53 07/02/08 Wed

No, I am NOT offbase when I stated some of the Von kids are out of shape and that they think they are great players already. I have seen these kids play several times this summer and there are kids on this team who can not get up and down the floor. There are kids on this team that think they should shoot all the time. R. Taylor is NOT a consistant shooter and she turns the ball over way to much , Mo is not a good PG and she only handles the ball because she is family. D Baker gets scared in big games. Powell seems to get hurt every time a big game is on the schedule. And poor C. Waters she is drowning. Until Von Coaches decide to stop playing favorites this team will keep underachieving. Find a line up that works and go with it regardless of who has been with who the longest.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- sportsjunkie, 15:16:16 07/02/08 Wed

you sound as if you are a parent who's child you feel should play more than she does.this kids have been playing basketball since october 07,they should be conditioned well.they are teenagers who probaly don't take the best care of thier bodies.you know quite a bit about these young ladies,but did you know they are are getting division 1 offers to play at the next level.Thats all that matters is getting to college free of charge.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 07:31:27 07/03/08 Thu

No I am not a parent but if I did have a kid playing she would be a disipline and in shape player. I think you need to get off the von bandwagon because you are a speculator you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- ONLOOKER, 07:41:25 07/03/08 Thu

D1 offers who in their right fucking mind would want either one of those kids. They all have bad attitudes their work ethic suck and by the way, what kids are you talking about because none of these kids have offers if they did the world would know. Stop fooling yourself these kids grades are suspect at best you better stop fucking dreaming.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- hoopstarvsd, 10:19:07 08/07/08 Thu

actually every senior on von are being looked at wit very high interest and 2 has offers. nobody knos because its not evrybody's business. if evrybody knos wat purpose wud it serve everybody knowin will not get them thru college. n onlooker u are exactly rite these r kids so mayb u shud grow up and realize u r bashing little girls. n u urself prolly cant get up n down the floor 4 four quarters

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