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Date Posted: 20:56:01 03/16/08 Sun
Author: DAT DUDE
Subject: Top 10 teams nex yr

von will be in the top 10 teams in the state next year they didnt lose any seniors but they might not be able to live up to ther hype. who do you think is the the top 10 next yr.

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[> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- WOW, 06:45:02 06/17/08 Tue

Every year someone is saying Von is goin to be a top team, their young they didn't lose anybody look man their not young anymore the 09 class is seniors now and for 3 year that class hasn't done anything they haven'e played weel thus far so i don't believe they will this year, the only player that has even gotten better since 8th grade is Romesha the rest of them kids has been playing the same before they enteres High school, now afer the 09 class leave then maybe they will be a top team in the state because they will have Amber, Alicha, Shantoe, and Terri and wit the 4 of them no one in their class can stop them so i'm lookin forward to the 2010 class senior year but as far as next year go Von will be a top team in their Conference, maybe even top ten in city, but as far as state go they won't even make it out of their reginal, but the year after that i believe those 4 2010 players can lead that team downstate or atleast farther then the 09 class as done

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[> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- True Dat, 06:56:34 06/17/08 Tue

Yea this is true because i saw Von play this past weekend at Depaul and Terry is carrying that team and the 2010 players are the only ones doing something, but i really am glad that Kiki and devynn were really good in 8th grade because they haven't inproved since so they still do play well from time to time and omg Morgan sucks shes get at least 10 Turn overs a game no one wants a PG that can't handle the ball, and Romi has not only gotten better since 8th grade she even improved since she left CHE you can tell she had her confidence back and is shooting better than ever...but i don't believe its the kids fault its coachin, and its their parents fault for lettin their kids play under Sha, i don't know if its family issue in her way but she honestly doen't care about her team, look at any one that has played for her, Tati a GREAT player could have played any where in the world but went to college and couldn't handle the fact that the coach actually made her work so she quit, look at Danisha a fucking failure to herself and the Von name she is doin nothing wit her life now a good player and now a no body did she even graduate? so if the players before the 09 class were failures how do u expect them to do well? its not the the kids fault its coaching, thats why the only ppl that will do something with their lives is the 2010 and 2011 player that decided to stay wit CHE not not play wit Sha all year round

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[> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- baskets, 09:10:53 06/20/08 Fri

Questioning the abilities and desire of Sha,is absurd.If she didn't care why would she start the Demons again.She has the best interest of these kids at heart.Everyone knows that the summer before you graduate can be crucial in the recuritment of a player.The removal of the kids from CHE,was to give these kids that exposure they certainly wouldn't have gotten from CHE.CHE is an outstanding program and nobody doubts that,but Sha has had these young ladies before they were teens.As a whole unit Von has not reached what was expected and as players they know it.To ridicule a kid on this board about thier development is uncalled for.We who observe and watch place expectations on these kids that may never reach,then we call them failures.The transition for grammmar school to highschool is vast.Most kids you were percieved to be excellent in gradeschool,don't also make great highschool players for some reason or another.The objective of the student athlete as well as the coach is to play at the next level at no cost to the family.If any child goes on to be a productive person in society,then what they accomplish as a team is friutless.I'm sure they desire to do more than thay have as a team.but to call them out is absurd.

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[> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- Truth Hurts, 11:28:24 06/20/08 Fri

I'm sorry but the truth hurts i must a agree Sha doesn't care about the players anymore and that is a great point that was made that Sha hasn't produced not one successful ball player out of all her years of coaching not one player successfully played at the next level, and the only one that have a chance is KiKi....but like Tati she will probably quit because the college workouts will be to hard...

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[> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 14:02:10 07/01/08 Tue

Having watched Sha Hopson in action she is one of the most fundalmentalist coaches I know. What you see from her players is NOT indicative of her coaching abilities. Players have to want to play and be the best they can be and I can not say this is the case with some of the Von Players. I believe they think they already are great and the fact of the matter is some are out of shape and most have other things on their minds other than a basketball sholarship. To say Sha or JD has not given these kids the basketball tools to succeed is ludacris. I am a supporter of Sha Hopson and I beleieve she is a good coach and person. Most of you have no idea what went into making these kids basketball players and what coaches go through outside the lines to keep kids on the right path. The most important thing for these kids is that they all will graduate. Sha hopson has not had one kid to drop out of highschool or have a child. Give Sha credit because she has helped these girls when no one else cared.And yes, Danisha Cole graduated. Sha Hopson keep doing your thing and if no else gives you props for the job you are doing I will.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- sportsjunkie, 08:50:36 07/02/08 Wed

I agree with you 100%,Sha is a great teacher of fundamental basketball offensively and defensively.For the last five years or so I have had the pleasure to see her teams on numerous occasions.To question her coach abilities is absurd.Defensively I have not seen any of her teams not play an agressive style of pressure defense.I.m sure as a coach she has had moments of displeasure with the core of players she has now.To say that they have underachieved is not far-fetched and as players I'm sure they know if they play for Sha.What most outsiders don't realize is that this core have players have been together for sometime now.Most programs add to yearly,for whatever reasons Von hasn't.Maybe it's a gesture of loyalty on Sha's behalf to her girls and the excellaration of thier futures.I beleive that's the case and she deserves kudos for that alone.Winning is icing on the cake for those who have true intentions on getting thier kids to the next level with leaving others in the program wayside.Sha's committed to her kids and program,a team is a reflection of thier coach in alot of ways.Von is decent but not great,they could be better but they lack the killer instinct that Sha diplays in practices and on the sideline.To say that they think they are great is kind off base just as well as the comment of being out of shape.She instills a rigorous conditiong program for these young ladies.As a team they know they could be better and have not progressed in the city and state format by not utilizing the talent they have.Most viewers say they have not gotten any better since eighth graders and the class of 09 is disappointing.Remember two years ago they achieved more than any previous Von girls team.Thier 09 class has been up and down,Baker just regaining confidence and full strenght in her knee.Brandon a very good pg that had a very heavy load of being the primary ballhandler.Powell very good in the post,but should extend her dominant play outside of conference play.Sometime in big games she not there mentally.Water's has a game but needs to step up as she displayed early last season with confidence.I think Taylor though less talented than some of her teammates is an example of what Sha wants in all her players heady.agressive and displaying confidence.A.Johnson can also be mentioned with Taylor,she jusst lacks the shooting ability of Romesha.They play thru T.Taylor an unbelievablly gifted player who has a knack of scoring around the basket with ease.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 11:28:53 07/02/08 Wed

No, I am NOT offbase when I stated some of the Von kids are out of shape and that they think they are great players already. I have seen these kids play several times this summer and there are kids on this team who can not get up and down the floor. There are kids on this team that think they should shoot all the time. R. Taylor is NOT a consistant shooter and she turns the ball over way to much , Mo is not a good PG and she only handles the ball because she is family. D Baker gets scared in big games. Powell seems to get hurt every time a big game is on the schedule. And poor C. Waters she is drowning. Until Von Coaches decide to stop playing favorites this team will keep underachieving. Find a line up that works and go with it regardless of who has been with who the longest.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- sportsjunkie, 15:16:16 07/02/08 Wed

you sound as if you are a parent who's child you feel should play more than she does.this kids have been playing basketball since october 07,they should be conditioned well.they are teenagers who probaly don't take the best care of thier bodies.you know quite a bit about these young ladies,but did you know they are are getting division 1 offers to play at the next level.Thats all that matters is getting to college free of charge.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 07:31:27 07/03/08 Thu

No I am not a parent but if I did have a kid playing she would be a disipline and in shape player. I think you need to get off the von bandwagon because you are a speculator you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- ONLOOKER, 07:41:25 07/03/08 Thu

D1 offers who in their right fucking mind would want either one of those kids. They all have bad attitudes their work ethic suck and by the way, what kids are you talking about because none of these kids have offers if they did the world would know. Stop fooling yourself these kids grades are suspect at best you better stop fucking dreaming.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- hoopstarvsd, 10:19:07 08/07/08 Thu

actually every senior on von are being looked at wit very high interest and 2 has offers. nobody knos because its not evrybody's business. if evrybody knos wat purpose wud it serve everybody knowin will not get them thru college. n onlooker u are exactly rite these r kids so mayb u shud grow up and realize u r bashing little girls. n u urself prolly cant get up n down the floor 4 four quarters

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[> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- sha hopson, 21:06:32 06/20/08 Fri

baskets it was hoops express that put all those kids at von on the map. anybody who thinks the demons will get more looks than CHE and the those kids were pulled to get more exposure is crazy. those kids were pulled over personal mess and one kid basically not wanting to be told what to do. those kids did not want anybody telling them what to do. they like running wild.

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[> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- Mo runs them, 13:50:39 06/22/08 Sun

Morghan runs that whole program on and off the court she was unhappy wit JD so she wanted to leave and like little puppies they all followed, it was the 2nd worst desicion basketball wise that those kids made, the 1st was going to Von

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[> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- baskets, 13:28:04 06/23/08 Mon

I have no knowledge of what transpires behind close doors with that group of kids.I was just defending the character of the players and giving credit where I deemed it was due.The CHE issue is old news,whatever may have happened between those who left to join the Demons is a decision that they must have felt comfortable doing.I'm sure that these kids are student-athletes first so there chances of playing at the next level should be ok.I'm not saying they are BCS players,but they all have an opportunity to play in college.

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[> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- baskets, 06:49:23 06/24/08 Tue

I was not questioning the exposure they would have recieved playing with CHE,everyone knows that JD give all of his team exposure.If you really read the context of my statements I stated that they were given a better oppotunity with the Demons.I only say this because of yhe playing time issue,yes I beleive all players garner court time with thier practice habits and performance in practice.But in retrospect Sha has given them a window of opportunity that may not have been available to them with CHE.I think both situtaions were great for those kids.I also beleive they have they ability and experience to be good this year.They may have the best post play in the state with Kiki,Terry and Shontae.Thier only knock is inconsistant backcourt play but incoming freshman Amber Johnson could be big for them.Baker should be fully recover from her injuries and her level of confidence should return soon,which makes her a great wing player.Romeshea's a great shooter from outside who's play above her abilities and has found some confidence in her game.She needs to handle the ball better and more often too be sucessful at the next level but she has shown improvement like most have stated.Mo's great and most have to understand to live with her turnovers because she the primary ballhandler,but that should subside with Johnson aboard.I truly justed wanted to state that it's unfair to use this forum to assinate the character of a player,coach or program basically.So all enjoy the rest of the basketball and be excited for a great year of highschool basketball.I have no vested interest in Von's players I jumped on thier wagon because I enjoy the way they play and simply because you and some media always find flaws about them.

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[> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- hoopstarvsd (good plyrs), 09:50:19 06/25/08 Wed

von plyrs decided to leave che because they weeren't to play their own game. che would get them exposure yes but growth as a plyr no. romisha and terry will carry the team this yr because terry is unstoppable and romisha has grown as a plyr. i also saw them at depaul and terry was their top scorer but romisha wasnt far behind and was playing a lot of point and was doing a good job. how cud sha not be doing a good job. she has had most of these plyrs since 5th grade and i doubt they learned the skills they have now by themselves. the kids that are with che wudnt b on their if it wasnt for sha. they all came n as one unit because of sha. shonte has only been playing basketball since 7th grade and her 8th grade yr sha taught her everything she knows. terry wouldnt have even had the confidence to shoot a layup in a highschool game if it wasnt for sha. these girls have learned a lot from sha. sha can only mold young plyrs she cant make decisions for them so the decisions tati and danisha made were all up to them and nobodies fault but their own. to get on the internet and hide behind a screen name and dog 16 and 17yr old girls is childish and to downgrade a coach's basketball ability and who they are is ridiculous. to b a good plyr you have to want to b a good plyr and the same about being a good persson.

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[> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- baskets, 14:59:06 06/25/08 Wed

I'm glad someone with true knowlwdge to this team's situtaion has come forward to defend thier coach,players and program.Thanks for more insight to what really has transpired.

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[> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- onlooker, 12:07:00 07/02/08 Wed

T Taylor will do her part but R.Taylor is not the player you think she is. She did not help carry this team last year nor will she this year. I understand you might like this kids game but keeping it real this kid is borderline garbage.

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[> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- baskets, 15:06:08 07/02/08 Wed

I never said R.Taylor was great or a BCS recriut.I basically stated that she is in the mold of her coach a hardnosed player.I never stated that her game doesn't have flaws, I just know from what I have seen this summer she plays hard.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- VSD, 10:14:08 08/07/08 Thu

I saw r.taylor last season and this summer she may not b the greatest player but she does carry her team a lot. if u check the stats she is always the top 2 if not the top. their final game against mp taylor hit 4 3's back 2 back to get her team bac n da gm. she hustles, makes great passes, and has np stepping up hitting big shots. she will go d1 prolly not big d1 mayb uic or loyola small d1's but she works hard from what i've saw. von players have been playing together for a very long time and they all are good players in their own way and bring sumthin to their team.


HAVE WE ALL 4GOT BASKETBALL IS 2 SUPPOSE 2 B FUN 4 THESE YOUNG LADIES NOT TO CAUSSE ARGUMENTS OVR COACHING ABILITY AND PLAYER ABILITY. N THE END NOBODY ELSE IS OUT THER ON TAT COURT BUT THOSE YOUNG LADIES SO LETS JUS HOOP WITOUT CONTROVERSY. GOOD LUCK 2 ALL LADIES THIS SEASON

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[> [> [> Re: Top 10 teams nex yr -- seriously, 10:23:56 08/07/08 Thu

borderline garbage r u serious. she had 17pts against wy n the beginning of the season. 12 in their big win against powerhouse marshall. last state gm ahe ended up with high score of 12 pts in 62seconds. tat doesnt sound like boderline garbage to me

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