[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 123[4]5678910 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 00:01:02 04/04/06 Tue
Author: Deborah
Subject: Am I mistaken, Joe?
In reply to: Joe 's message, "PS:" on 08:59:06 04/01/06 Sat

I wondered illegals were not impinging upon legal immigration. What am I missing? (Serious question because I have not yet researched whether the numbers have affected legislation re immigration.)

No surprise there appears a range of thought among articles in support of opinions. That's why I searched for something that may be a bit more unbiassed. Doing some reading the past few days, hearing of the National Research Council's study of the economic effects for illegals, it does appear California is among those most affected at a State level for services. But conversely, the boon on the Federal side is substantial, for tax revenue, monies into Social Security and Medicare. As the Baby Boom generation retires teh immigrants employed continue feeding into these systems.

Artificial suppression of wages noted for natives without high school diplomas was a five-percent decrease in the late 90's--tracked over 15 years. There was also mention of immigrants filling jobs seen as unappealing to natives, and filling positions where labor forces were weak or unavailable.

I remember cumom's mention (re sociology) of generational effects for today's youth. Do I recall a generation with expectations outside the work ethic?

Truly, this is not a liberal knee-jerk reaction on my part. But it feels unfair yesterday and today to not see this as something complex to be fought on our ground, to include our trade agreements with other world entities like Mexico. Thank you for bringing that to the table--my husband and I talk about this often.

Regardless, there's still a concern from me for corporate and personal involvement, IMO, benefiting and taking advantage. Add in the increasing numbers of jobs outsourced and the credits gifted to corporations for offshore involvement... The latter being my very real concern in the forefront of American employment and wages.

Rambling Deb off m'soapbox for now...

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.