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Date Posted: 08:53:47 06/21/02 Fri
Author: Lyra Jane
Subject: Re: What do you mean by RPF?
In reply to: Kate 's message, "Re: What do you mean by RPF?" on 01:15:39 06/19/02 Wed

>
>So if it's okay for you to watch, say, the episode of
>"Quantum Leap" where Sam leaps into Dr. Ruth and talks
>sex to everyone, then it's okay for someone else to
>write a story where Faith snags Britney and has some
>fun.
>
>Sorry, but it really gets on my tits when someone says
>"I want the funny stuff on the list, but not the dirty
>sex stuff." Because there IS NO DIFFERENCE.

But there is one, and one that's pretty clear to me. It's based on how much the fic hews to the living person's public image, and how much the fic respects their basic human right to privacy.

IIRC, Dr. Ruth appeared *as herself* in that episode. It was very much based on her public persona -- as was Yahtzee's Hoop Screams.

The Faith/Britney fic was different in that it portrayed Britney engaging in sexual activities, and rough lesbian sex at that. Fic where a real person has sex with a buffyverse character crosses a line for me, and I would not mind if that were where the BBF admins set *their* line as well.

Of course Twinkledru has a right to write "She's So Lucky," and to rec it or archive it wherever it's accepted. But I don't think that place needs to be here.

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[> [> [> Re: What do you mean by RPF? -- Kate, 05:50:08 06/22/02 Sat


>Of course Twinkledru has a right to write "She's So
>Lucky," and to rec it or archive it wherever it's
>accepted. But I don't think that place needs to be
>here.

But then you're imposing your viewpoint onto a group of people who have other viewpoints -- you're saying "Well, it might be good, and it might fit within the requirements for it to be rec-ed to BetterBuffyFics, but I feel that the content is morally wrong, and, therefore, it shouldn't be posted here."

Which isn't right to me, because much of what is recommended to the list could be construed as "morally wrong" -- heck, ask Marti Noxon what she thinks of most of the fic, and you'll see a woman who's actually concerned about some of it.

You say it crosses a line for you personally. And that's fine. I say that your personal line shouldn't be enforced on other people on a list that is supposed to be open to all tastes.

Also, you say that "It's based on how much the fic hews to the living person's public image." Being that "She's So Lucky" is about Britney being a "goddess of the people," I would assume that it is about her public image (based in part on her "Overprotected" video, where she engages in rather risqué dances with her female dancers). The Britney on the screen is not the Britney in real life. We're writing about the Britney that is presented to the world publicly, and if she's dancing naughtily with girls on our tv, it's not that big of a leap to say that she'd sleep with one too.

In other words, we all have public constructs that we put out towards the world -- the person that the world sees and not the person that we really are. If a person chooses to explore your public construct and play with the image of you -- it happens. It's not the real you, it's their image of you. You can either accept it and move on, or you can sit there and be afraid of the world around you.


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