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Subject: Re: Racial Profiling - Semi-vent


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Mallyn
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Date Posted: 17:01:00 10/11/02 Fri
In reply to: Raisinmom 's message, "Re: Racial Profiling - Semi-vent" on 15:49:56 10/11/02 Fri

>Well, here's the problem. There are certain traits
>that were shared by all 19 9/11 hijackers, plus those
>convicted of the 1993 WTC bombing, plus related
>terrorist acts against the US. All were Arab, for
>one. So what exactly do you want our intelligence and
>police forces to do with this information? Do you
>want them to totally ignore it?
>Do you want them to shrug if four young Arab men, all
>clean-shaven and traveling alone, board a flight?

I don't care what they do behind the scenes. If the airline wants to run a secret background check, that's fine with me. But to pull them off the airplane and hold them, that amounts to an arrest and it's not okay just based on the fact of their race. We have a standard in this country. It's called "probable cause" and race alone isn't enough to get you there.

>Uh, I don't understand your point. How does this
>relate to profiling? At any rate, if you are arguing
>that Israel's actions against Palestinians are
>"terrorism," I strongly disagree. They are military
>actions because they do not target noncombatant
>civilians (unlike the true Palestinian terrorists, who
>expressly target teenagers in discos and pizza
>parlors, not soldiers, or political leaders, or
>weapons stocks). You may disagree with Israel's
>actions, but to call them terrorism is silly and
>denigrates the horror of real, live terrorism like
>9/11. I suggest you take a look at the thread about
>this below.

How is the thread below (which I now have looked at) supposed to change my mind? I have seen plenty of reports about Israeli military personnel targeting innocent civilians. I have also spoken to plenty of my Israeli friends who also characterize it this way.

But you're right, it is not entirely related to profiling, except to say that terrorists are not always Arabs.

-Mallyn

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