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Subject: Re: ANGEL and BUFFY forever


Author:
Buffster
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Date Posted: 14:46:53 12/13/02 Fri
In reply to: ciara 's message, "angel and cordy forever" on 17:50:31 09/22/02 Sun

Are you out of your minds! Buffy and Angel are absolutely perfect for eachother! They have such a passionate, tear-jerking, Romeo+Juliet-type relationship going on! It's so beautiful. you can't just forget about something like that! But even if Buffy wasn't in the picture (and she is: Angel and Buffy are still very much in love with eachother) I still would not like the idea of Cordy and Angel. Do you know why? (And it's not that I don't like Cordy, I DO!) Because thoose two have absolutely no chemistry together on-screen. Zip. Nada. Nothing. No passion, no romance, NOTHING. And that's because they have a more of a brother/sister-like relationship than a romantic one. And another thing: SHE DID THE NASTY WITH CONNOR! THAT IS NOT LOVE! SHE WAS SO DISRESPECTFUL AND SELFISH TO BOTH ANGEL AND CONNOR I DON'T KNOW HOW HE CAN EVEN LOOK AT HER AGAIN! THIS IS NOT LOVE PEOPLE! And just to rub it in your faces: Buffy would NEVER do that...but "QUEEN C" would, because let's just face it, CORDELIA IS A SLUT (Gru, Connor, etc.) Oh, and i almost threw-up when I saw her and Connor together. SHE WAS LIKE A MOTHER TO HIM! THAT IS DISGUSTING!

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Author:
Kat
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Date Posted: 15:33:23 02/04/03 Tue

Know I think that Angel and buffy should so get back together. Cause they were just ment for each other and I cant see anyone together with Angel only buffy. They were just ment to be together. Cordy is not good for him. She was the cheerleader not the cute cuple tip. So I think that Buffy and Angel should so get back together if there was a way for them to. I think it is really sad that they are not together anymore it makes me cry..


[> [> Subject: Re: ANGEL and BUFFY forever


Author:
Reynanuy
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Date Posted: 08:34:59 02/20/03 Thu

Hello newbie here. I think you got something wrong the key word isn`t "have" but "had" an etc,etc,etc reationship. Buffy has moved on more than once actualy,once with spike ewww let`s not go there, and it`s about time Angel does so. Who shoud he pick? It`s not like he had a choice cordy is...well she is cordy anyone would fall in love with her. She is offering him things that buffy never did plus they have know each other for quite a while it`s the not so clasic story of falling for your best friend. Now the conor
can be easily explained.

warning posible spoilers

For me it`s pretty simple the cordy we re watching isn`t the cordy we know. First we don`t how one moment she was higher been and then simple mortal. Then she comes with amnesia if the ptb wanted to help by sending cordy back wouldn`t they send her with her memories including those of the "higher plane"? And now she breakes havoc between the gang by sleeping with connor a probably planed blow to split the gang and hurt Angel. Plus let`s not forget the inside job in gwen`s place, ruling out gwen and gunn any of cordy or angel could have spiked the drings and cut the power. Then it`s not cordy the one doing all the wrekage but a spy probably by the beast, like when she bumps into him and he doesn`t kill her and leading connor to his birth place so he can freck out about he being born in the place the beast was raised.

And if this alll doesn`t convince you what`s worst cordy sleeping with connor out of pitty and hey world ending or Buffy sleeping with spike out of i can`t-think-of-a-single-reason?
[> [> [> Subject: Re: ANGEL and BUFFY forever


Author:
Barbara
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Date Posted: 09:17:35 03/31/04 Wed

I think that angel and buffy did have a good relationship, but that is over with. Angel as well buffy has moved on. Cordy is the better person for angel they both have a good relationship with each other and plus they are both champions and although buffy was a champion she is a slayer.... end of story cordy and angel 4ever
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Author:
wouldn't you like to know
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Date Posted: 13:39:33 11/22/04 Mon

what the hell are you taling abou buffy and angel togather forever that's the whole point i think you need to watch the show a little more and find out who angel loves and always will love now that's the end of the story.
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hamid
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Date Posted: 15:49:23 10/14/05 Fri

hello

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Author:
D.J.
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Date Posted: 12:24:51 02/21/03 Fri


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emily
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Date Posted: 01:54:46 03/23/03 Sun

u are so right angel and buffy totally belong together and cordellia hardly cares about angel otherwise she woundlnt of slept with his son and in the very beginning of buffy angel wouldnt look twice at cordellia

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kim
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Date Posted: 05:36:08 03/26/03 Wed

i don't think buffy and angel should get back together, i think angel and cordelia should get together because both of them have been through a lot together i think there is love around them both when they look in each others eyes angel is my best program ever i watch every week and am there number one fan
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barbara
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Date Posted: 12:07:17 04/01/04 Thu

i think that buffy and angel should not.... get back together because they did not have the same good relationship that cordy and angel had. they should move on and cordy and angel should be together

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kelly
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Date Posted: 07:10:31 04/28/03 Mon


[> [> Subject: Re: ANGEL and BUFFY forever


Author:
AngelFan
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Date Posted: 05:39:43 05/08/03 Thu

Your forgetting that Cordy was evil when she did that. I think that over the three years that they've been around eachother they have fallen in love. He cant be with Buffy, and I dont think that they'll ever get back together. I want them to, but i know it's not gonna happen. I think that Angel deserves some happiness after all he's been through.

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Morgan
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Date Posted: 09:37:35 05/11/03 Sun

Buffy and Angel were in love the first 3 years of Buffy and Angel and Cordy just fell in love this season of Angel. Buffy and Angel have a love that lasts forever. Sure Angel has feelings for Cordy but he will always have a love for Buffy. Just give Buffy and Angel another shot!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!PLEASE!PLEASE!PLEASE!PLEASE!PLEASE!

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Buffybabe
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Date Posted: 06:57:10 10/11/03 Sat

i think Angel and Buffy should be together i think that there relationship was so passionite i fell in love with there relatinship i hope they get back together this is how i think angel should end angel gets 1 wish 4 all da things good he has done and he turns human but before that happens he has 2 survive the final battle buffy comes to help with the battle and they win a few die but they survive and they live happily ever after. cordy and him never suited eachother.
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lia
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Date Posted: 10:06:57 05/18/06 Thu

i think angel had always loved buffy and and would always love buffy. Cordy was just a distraction.

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Aurora
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Date Posted: 21:08:41 10/31/03 Fri

Cordelia wasn't really Cordelia when she slept with Connor, she was possessed by that Jasmine person inside her. Cordelia came back from the higher plane and wasn't Cordelia anymore, she was something else. I think Angel and Cordelia would make a better couple than Buffy and Angel, because Cordelia and Angel had a really deep friendship that grew into a great love and understanding for each other. Also, Buffy was supposedly just like Cordelia at her first highschool before she became the slayer, so its not like Buffy is better than Cordelia.(Buffy even made a reference to herself as Spordelia before she became the slayer.)
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Author:
Courtney
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Date Posted: 00:22:49 02/19/04 Thu

I think that Angel did love Buffy at one time, But the joy he felt when he saw Cordy in You're Welcome(Season 5) was so overwelming. Right then you saw that he loves Cordy so much. In Season 4, when He saw Cordy and Connor making love he was so hurt. I think that he still loves buffy but I think he is in love with Cordelia
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VICTORIA
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Date Posted: 16:00:03 10/02/05 Sun

ANGEL AND BUFFY TOGETHER FOR EVER NO MATTER WHAT AND THE LOOK CUTE TOGETHER

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yvette
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Date Posted: 10:19:20 11/04/03 Tue

Angel and Buffy all the way, I think if angel had a choice and if he was free, he won't hestitate for a moment to choose Buffy. The greatest passion and deepest emotion there is, is the ones we want but can't have, so unil Angel gets her he will always choose her before anyone else, including Cordy

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MELANIE
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Date Posted: 00:28:04 11/06/03 Thu

ALRITE..I TINK BUFFY AND ANGEL SHOULD BE TOGETHER!!AFTER ALL THOSE TWO BEEN THROUGH I TINK THEY SHOULD END UP WIT EACH OTHER...THEY BOTH ARE SOO GOOD TOGETHER...AND REMEBER WHEN BUFFY FIRST STARTED CORDY HAD WANTED ANGEL....YET HE DIDN'T GIVE HER THE TIME OF DAY...THOSE 2 DON'T BELONG TOGETHER...SHE WENT OUT WIT ZANDER FOR HEAVENS SAKES..AND BUFFY DIDN'T LOVE SPIKE ...EVEN SPIKE SAID DAT ....SO THERE

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jaime
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Date Posted: 11:10:50 11/12/03 Wed

Angel and buffy are meant tobe forever!!! i just saw this eppy of Angel and it was angel trying to save Darla and they were showing flash backs of themlong ago and i was thinkin he wanted to save her life that means he still loves her i was so wrong he loves buffy and there nothing to say is that there meant to be and they need to bring buffy the vampire slayer back i mean now that was so rude of her to just quite and now there lots of fans that dislike her for that and i think we should start a poll or somthing to bring her back they can even put her on angel with spike now that would be so funny!!! at least im still watching buffy on saterday on fox at 2:00 it at the 6th season where her a spike are falling in love i so dont think so i want her so back with angel it so not far!!!!

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Lauren
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Date Posted: 17:41:54 01/03/04 Sat

Buffy and Angel's love touched us all it soo beautiful and i would have loved joss wheadon to have made angels curse different like so he dosnt loose his soul when he slleps with some1 he loves but unfortunitly shit happens but i think by the end of angel something will happen 2 him maybe he'll become human 2 repay him 4 what he has done 4 da world i want something like that to happen meenwhile cordy and angel make an awful couple and if spike and buffy ever ever end up with each other i will scream it made me feel sick when buffy told spike that she loved himanyway buffy and angerl 4eva i mean thats the whole point.

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Louisa Ashleigh Krupp
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Date Posted: 11:10:10 01/04/04 Sun


I agree that Buffy & Angel met fairly quick; lots of looks, and we're supposed to beleive that "they're in love.." this teenage "chosen one," and a three-hundred-year old vampire, who's spent most of his "undead" years w/ Darla, even if he feels guilty about it.. With Cordelia, he's already known her for years (on both shows) when they start looking at each other; he's seen her through a LOT; he's seen her change and grow, and become willingly "demon-blooded" so that she can help the world through her visions; he's watched her become confrontational and honest; her character is always brave, and she seems to grow moreso.. And she gets to know, and really cares about him. This was a romance that seemed to proceed more naturally; I believed in it, while with Buffy it was more like, "Well; yeah; we're supposed to believe that you're in love."(Even tho' in both cases, there's the obstacle of "true happiness and you lose you soul!" Like anyone is really able to visualize Angel in a healthy romantic relationship anyway.. "tragic romance," by definition, wasn't built to last (Although not w/ Angel, the show has tried on some "untragic ones")
It doesn't look like it's going to happen, but it was beautiful while it lasted (*sigh*)

Louisa
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Author:
ornella
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Date Posted: 08:56:54 02/17/04 Tue

well cordy and angel belongs together they rock,
buffy is also cool but she is not a good with angel
angel and cordy really are a good couple
buffy let him down, and really hurt him
that i why cordy come in
the point is CORDY AND ANGEL SHOULD BE TOGETHER IH THE SHOW


ORNELLA
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Author:
ornella
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Date Posted: 09:00:27 02/17/04 Tue

the show rocks
angel and cordy is the best
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Author:
angellover
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Date Posted: 13:32:52 02/22/05 Tue

I think that angel sud marrie cordelia
they are a good cople angel is a vampire white a sool
and cordelia has visions and she,s half demon
so cordelia anderstaands angel and angel coredelia
buffy kan not marrie white angel becose
she a vampire slayer and
angel is a vampire white a sool buffy killd angel bevore and she will do it acean!!!!!!!!
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angellover
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Date Posted: 13:34:58 02/22/05 Tue

ANGEL AND CORDY FOREVER F*CK BUFFY

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Author:
AngelCordyFan
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Date Posted: 04:27:43 04/06/04 Tue

I cant believe people are saying such horrid things about cordy! She is way better than buffy! She's done so much for angel, they've been through so much together they belong together! What she did with connor was NOT HER - she was being possessed by Jasmine duh! that is such a stupid argument!!
Buffy didnt take long to get together with Riley did she? Or spike for that matter!! And in season 4 when Angel is turned eveil his dream denoting rue happiness is when he makes amends with cordy, and sleeps with her. Theirs is a tru love born from friendship, not just passion.

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Rin
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Date Posted: 06:35:49 04/14/04 Wed

I just can´t believe that tou think Angel and Cordy belong together. I think that deep down Angel will allways love Buffy and the other way around. What Angel and Cordy had together were not real love, and (if you don´t remember) Angel still loved Buffy when he left her. Buffy was hurt (of course) and tried to forget the hole thing. What was she s´pose to do, she had to move on with her life. I just say: BUFFY AND ANGEL FOREVER

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cordy
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Date Posted: 16:53:27 11/06/04 Sat

angel and cordy they look so cute together

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Author:
sophie
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Date Posted: 05:02:29 02/02/05 Wed

ello and ur mad buffy and angel are the best they suit each other to the tee cordelia is just not angels type she not adventourus enough buffy and angels love will last forever and on the last season on buffy did u c da way dey looked at each oother it was so romantic and way got to go bisibi

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speakingof
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Date Posted: 14:03:13 06/01/05 Wed

God, I don't even want to think about what sort of spineless weasle would seriously want to be with that half-baked (or whatever stupid f*cking analogy she's using these days) b*tch. Seriously, Angel's joined up with Wolfram & Hart, and might be sinking into darkness again, and where's Buffy? In Rome, clubbing with Immy. Whereas Cordelia fought along Angel's side to the end, Buffy obviously doesn't care about him (or anyone else for that matter, other than herself) in the least. You wanna know why Andrew was at her apartment instead of Dawn, or Xander, or any other Scooby? Because she's officially so annoying, that that little cowardly f*cktard is the only person she knows who'll put up with her sh*t. Dawn probably got tired of her self-centeredness and ran away, and the rest of the gang probably lied about their locations and are really hanging out in Cleveland with Faith, patrolling the new Hellmouth. Because it can't be said nearly enough, Buffy is a nasty, cold hearted b*tch, and I wouldn't wish her on my worst enemy.

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speakingof
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Date Posted: 14:22:59 06/01/05 Wed

Oh, yeah, AND CORDY WAS F*CKING POSSESSED WHEN SHE SLEPT WITH CONNOR!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK F*CKING HEADS, ALREADY!!! SHE WAS RAPED AND POSSESSED AND VIOLATED WHILE TRYING TO DO GOOD AND HELP ANGEL! SHE DIED FOR HIM AND THAT'S A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN BUFFY CAN SAY FOR HER SORRY ASS STAR CROSSED ROMANCE!

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Author:
Childe of the Daywalker
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Date Posted: 09:42:21 05/10/06 Wed

Well, since this thread is still operational, I've decided to post my won opinions about C/A (my fave couple ever!), and also, my opinions on the treatment of the Cordy character, Angel's character, and the shallowness of B/A as well as the certain brand of Fans that support it.

So sit back and enjoy:

It’s funny how some idiots, er, people were saying that Buffy was more important than Cordy to not only the character but to the ‘Series’ of Angel and to his Shanshu all along, despite the fact that:

1. She has appeared on the show a total of two episodes as opposed to Cordy’s FOUR F***ING SEASONS!

2. Has done jack sh*t to help Angel in reaching his redemption the entire time, whereas Cordy has possessed head splitting migraines which have nearly killed her on more than one occasion for the majority of those seasons and still kept them, all of which are for Angel to respond to in his path to achieving redemption. Not to mention giving up her humanity and any chance of having the life she originally came to LA for, plus coming back as a favor she asked of the PTB for the soul purpose of getting Angel back on the right track.

3. The fact that Buffy, to this day, doesn’t even know about the damned Shanshu in the first place, or anything else that has happened to Angel since he moved to LA, through friends or otherwise. I mean Willow and Faith know more about Angel’s life at this point than she does.

And what really infuriates me, is how that b***ard Whedon was noted as saying shortly after her firing that Charisma was not the leading lady of the series (bull****!) or even that important of a character to begin with (garbage!!!). Post the blame of Charisma’s firing on whomever you want, but there was absolutely NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER for the crap Joss regurgitated from his useless trap here about CC’s character.

So suddenly Cordy puts on a little weight, and BAM, “sorry Cordy, despite all you’ve given up for Angel and ALL you’ve done to keep him on his path of righteousness and ALL the crap that’s happened to your mind, body, and soul (Never ending visions which required countless medications to keep under control [all of which were handled with grace and dignity], painful burns, 2 comas, giving up your humanity and a very lucrative and popular lifestyle, getting hijacked by the PTB you’ve been working for and having your body raped and manipulated by a renegade power, and even your untimely, unnecessary DEATH, etc.) for the sake of his g**damned mission, we’re going to portray everything your character has ever selflessly done for him as completely meaningless and it’s Buffy who is not only going to reap the benefits of Angel’s Shanshu, but is going to be given ALL the credit for helping him to achieve a reward she DOESN’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT!!!” Good luck to those DucKKK a**holes in trying to explain that one. (Just for the record, if Joss does attempt to give Buffy even a shred of credit for Angel’s Shanshu, I will personally make that worthless, moronic pr*ck’s life a living hell).

And as far as that retard’s comment about there being no place left to go with her character (which we all know is just a pathetic excuse to cover his own a$$ about his flat out firing of her) and the mentally handicapped little sh*ts who said her character was beyond repair are concerned; “You’re Welcome” proved all those statements made against Cordy had no legs to stand on. No character, I repeat and emphasize, NO CHARACTER is beyond repair and redemption if the writing is good enough (e.g. David Fury).

And if those baseless statements about Angel supposedly not loving Cordy were even remotely true, what would it say about the 100th episode? That Angel was just lying to and manipulating Cordy with those “I’m lost without you” and “I think about that night all the time” comments simply so he could get a little ‘Hey Hey’? That Angel was nothing more than a lying, shallow, vapid, two-faced motherf***er who treated Cordy (the woman who gave up so much for him and who has just been left in a life threatening coma for the last several months) as some babe-of-the-week to be used and then cast aside (in this case, killed off entirely) so as not to deter from the pointless focus on some non-existent love triangle storyline (A/S/B) that never even got resolved? This is the creep they’re trying to portray as some kind of hero?

Now I don’t know if Spike deserves to take the Shanshu, which has been talked about on Ats since season 1, but if the above evidence is even remotely true, Angel damn sure deserves to lose it! I can’t believe he is even given the name Angel, because no “Angel” would behave so callously by trying to get back with Buffy after all that happened on the other show.

Charisma did not deserve to be brought back for some bull**** “Hallmark greeting card” episode only to get pushed out of the way for the sake of a SMG appearance (which didn’t even happen and NEVER should have been an option to begin with!), because Charisma is, and always will be, more important to ATS than Sarah ever was.

The character of Cordelia did NOT deserve to be treated like some cheap, convenient booty call who’s only purpose in life was to keep Angel warm while the b*tch of Rome decided whether or not her f***ing cookies were done baking (without a doubt the most retarded, annoying analogy in the history of television). Her worthiness for Angel’s love, as well as her characters entire self worth should never have been based on her “less than flattering” comments of the Scoobies fashion sense. Her entire character’s self worth should never be based solely on her BTVS stint (HER CHARACTER RAN 4 MORE SEASONS!!!). She put up with and went through too much crap on ATS to be treated like some shortcut, or in other cases, roadblock in the path to Buffy, and she sure as hell did not give up her f***ing life just so he could go running back to that arrogant blond harlot. (P.S. “The Girl in Question” episode still would have sucked and still would have butchered the characters of Angel and Spike whether or not SMG made an appearance, if anything, an appearance would have made it even worse). This is not a pro-C/A thing or an anti-B/A thing, this is a plain old “MORALITY” thing.

If Angel’s path to redemption involved a girl, then Cordy’s actions in the last 5 seasons make her more than worthy to be that girl. After all, she was there for him in the end (Power Play).

I don’t care what character or ship you are loyal to for whatever reason you can come up with, and I don’t give a flying f*ck what ANY of your opinions are towards the portrayal of her character last year, because it is all completely irrelevant, and “NO” argument you can give can change that fact, no matter what.

So keep it up Cordy bashers (venomous f***s the DucKKKS, especially, along with various other idiotic wh**es like Gia), you can NEVER take that away from her.

I don’t think that B/A was just a crush, just like I didn’t think W/O was just some fling, but I don’t believe that it should be prioritized over everything else either. Bottom line, if Joss truly believes that the B/A romance crap transcends everything after all that’s happened on both shows, then the Whedonverse is going to die a very SHALLOW and POINTLESS death.

I’m sorry if this rant offended the B/A fans (except the DucKKKs, those worthless, festering pieces of rat excrement can rot to hell), but I just cannot support a ship that result in good people around them being severely hurt or that makes one half of the pair look like a heartless, two-timing bastard.

It’s a damned shame that CC’s pregnancy and a few vocal, bitter shippers (DucKKKs) had to push Joss to ruin the character of Angel entirely.

Signed, COTD, the Anti (for good damn reason) -DucKKK


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