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Date Posted: 01:09:56 10/18/02 Fri
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Warspite
's message, "Re: Official vs. Not Official" on 09:19:44 10/17/02 Thu
>Let me make this very clear once and for all, because
>frankly I'm sick and tired of having to explain it
>over and over again.
>
>Star Trek Canon rules.
>
>Paramount considers what is shown on screen to be
>canon. It cannot be overruled by technical manuals or
>books.
>
>Paramount does not consider the Technical Manuals to
>be canon. However, because they were written by the
>people that actually create and work on the show, many
>people give them weight in these debates.
>
>This forum allows the use of the Technical Manuals,
>but if they conflict with what is shown on screen,
>then the technical manual is always considered to be
>wrong.
>
>Let's have an example to illustrate.
>
>Let's say the technical manual says that the Captain's
>ready room does not have a toilet, but we see on
>screen that it does. In that scenario, the technical
>manual is considered to be wrong.
>
>However, this is not an all or nothing affair. The
>fact that the TM might be wrong in the case of the
>Captain's toilet, does not necessarily mean it would
>be wrong about how the tranporter works. Therefore,
>evidence regarding the TM will still be allowed,
>unless that is shown to be wrong too.
>
>Furthermore, in some cases, the TM gives us info that
>has never been seen on the show. A good example of
>this is the presence of the Captains Yacht on the E-D.
>We never see in the show, but because the TM says it
>is there, we accept that.
>
>Paramount does not consider the ST novels to be canon,
>and this forum does NOT allow evidence from ST novels.
>
>Paramount does not consider the games to be canon, and
>generally they should NOT be used.
>
>Star wars canon rules.
>
>Lucas film considers what appears on screen to be
>canon. It cannot be overruled by technical manuals or
>books, regardless of how many books may disagree with
>the films.
>
>Lucas film does consider the technical manuals and
>books to be a limited form of canon. Lucasfilm has
>stated that:-
>
>"The analogy is that every piece of published Star
>Wars fiction is a window into the 'real' Star Wars
>universe. Some windows are a bit foggier than others.
>Some are decidedly abstract. But each contains a
>nugget of truth to them."
>
>In other words, some are right and some are probably
>wrong.Wrong this means that some windows into the Star Wars universe are easy to match up with a movie and the more foggy ones are harder to match up with a movie. It DOES NOT mean thay are simply wrong. That is only your opinion, which your entitled to but please don't make assumptions. For the purposes of this group, TMs and novels
>are allowed, but in a conflict with a film, the film
>always wins.
>
>Lucasfilm considers the games to be official. They
>hold the lowest rank in the SW universe. Consequently,
>they are allowed, but their use should be considered
>very carefully, and they should only be used to back
>up a position proven using evidence from the films or
>books.
>
>I hope that is clear. Let me make another thing clear.
>I set up this group with these rule. I stick to them,
>and they are the rules of this group. It's a case of
>take it or leave it I'm afraid. If you don't agree
>with the rules, then I guess this group is not for you.
This is the problem! If the TM's can be wrong then the show can also be wrong since it is made by the same the people, your mistake is you base your conclusions on a source of information that is based on misleading information to begin with. Not even the writers and producers can get it right so what makes you so sure you have all of the answers? While I'm not saysing you don't know what your talking about, I am saying that your source of "canon" information is flawed, sometimes very flawed. So while your Rules for debate are usefull and very fair it is the information I question, NOT you.
>You can see the rules of the forum on-line here:-
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/empire/blueyard/legal.html
>
>And you can find a breakdown of the canon rules here:-
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/empire/blueyard/canon.html
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