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Subject: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepen Opene
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 18 2008, 02:55:30pm

It's interesting to note how Kandepen lawyer Alfred Manase has successfully defended his clients' cases at the Court of Disputed Returns (e.g. Wingti vs Olga -WHP Regional). Being one of the nation's top eloquent lawyers he has the potential to cause a lot of upsets.

However, what about his own case with the Kandep MP Don Polye?? Has the case been withdrawn or won by the incumbent? (Maybe Chicko can inform us more on this matter.)

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Sat, Mar 22 2008, 12:42:55pm

The case is on for trial and will start 1st April 2008 and is scheduled for 2 months at Mt Hagen if you're interested to attend.

cheers,

Chicko.

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane (Kiningii)
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Date Posted: Thu, Mar 27 2008, 07:04:51pm

Chicko,
Please tell Kandepen Opene and others that Alfred Manase is wasting all our time. This election petition court case is NOT JUSTIFIED. Instead lawyer Alfred is the real CULPRIT! He initiated all the election havoc in Kandep with an intention of causing Kandep a FAILED ELECETION which he did not succeed. This, he was merely used as a tool by other people like Governor Ipatas and Wingti to topple Polye but to no avail. Now he wants to try his luck in court with his liklik law save plus used by others that I know he will regret.
He is falsifying so do not bet on this case. He should instead burry his head in shame because he has written himself off by his own criminal actions.

For your infor..

Kandepian Wane

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[> [> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 28 2008, 07:36:00am

Hi Kandepian Wane,

Unfortunately every individual in this country has a democratic right and I guess Alfred is exercising just that. Likewise you are entitled to your own opinion of who may be the CULPRIT!
In this world the COURTS are given the power to judge or bring justice to the people. Whatever the outcome of the courts we must accept and move on. There is no point pre-empting anything in this forum.

Cheers,

Chicko

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[> Subject: Kandepian Wane Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Curious
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 28 2008, 10:00:23am

Just wonderin what Alfred did that makes him the culprit? Has he encouraged illegal voting or something of the sort. Kandepian Wane could you just let the rest of us know what happened. Just curious...
Thx

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 28 2008, 05:28:38pm

Fellow Engans

This is disturbing as I believe these two high-profile leaders should work together rather than fight each other for the sake of Kandep. Again, I hope a peaceful resolution can be reached through mutual cooperation and consensus. If there is a legitimate case to be heard, then justice should rightfully take its place within the courtroom.

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane (kiningii)
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 28 2008, 06:23:40pm

Curious,
Believe it or not this is what Alfred did. Him and his boys held up election officials carrying 8 ballot boxes containing about 8,000 ballot papers at his foreign village at Tinzipak. He did that after removing a access bridge that prevented vehicles from passing beyond this point. The security officials turned back from there letting only the election officials to carry ballot papers to the places of voting to conduct elections. On their way Alfred held up the officials at gun point and wrote everything to himself and Governor Ipatas. He pre planned this with powerful guns which the poor election officials surrendered everything to him. Prior to this he physically assulted two polling teams near Kandep Station on the way to his mothers home with boys loaded in his car which he did not succeed. He denied thousands of voters from exercising their democratic rights. As a result there was a big protest staged by people who missed out in front of the Kandep Council Chamber with mud covered all over their faces which was very sad. THIS ACTION IS PENDING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. The hijacked boxes were never allowed to be counted and are kept in Wabag Police Station as material evidence for possible prosecution. HE IS A CULPRIT!
In all of these, he was personally involved and not only by his supporters. Is this what a so called an elogent lawyer should do? Now he is saying the election in Kandep has failed and by Polye. Don't know what he will do next under the sun. That is how he initiated all these election irregularities.

For your infor..

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
TapuMalo
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 28 2008, 07:58:11pm

Fellows,
I guess there is a thin difference between truth and justice and the courts administer justice to those who seek it but I don't think it can establish the real truth. It could get close enough but never really. The truth is only in the BIG BOOK.

If Manase feels that he is being denied justice, then he has all the right to seek it through the courts. On the other hand, if Polye feels that he was justly elected then needn't worry. In the meantime, the Kandepens should bury their differences and work towards a better Kandep. We had a prosperous year last year and the results are made available to the people through the K10 million district allocation this year. I believe there will never be a time like this in the future. This is our time to act and to participate in district development and integration through involvement and inclusion.

Anyway, as Chicko had rightly put that's just my opinion, you are entitled to yours.

Daddy Bless

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane (Kiningii)
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Date Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2008, 06:31:30pm

Ha!everyone,
What is stated obove is hard fact encountered by election officials and all eye witnesses and not an accusation. That is why I say it is unfair to seek the courts opinion which could go either way.
Even if there is a by election ordered for tomorrow, Polye will still win on the first count and this time with more votes than he did last time. That is again unfair and waste of time and resources for everyone of us except with Alfred Manase and Governor Ipatas who are nothing but very jealous.

This is the bottom line.

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
SB
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Date Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2008, 11:25:40pm

Kandepen Wane,

Can you explain why Manase scored less then 4000 votes if he did all those crooked things? The country noted Polye's victory with a lot of suspicion.

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Sun, Mar 30 2008, 06:43:34pm

SB,
Because only 2 out of 8 boxes he hijacked were allowed to be counted. And the 2 boxes alone accounted for almost all the votes he scored in the whole of Kandep.
BUT the main reason is Don Polye was the Deputy Prime Minister and acting PM and was a prime ministerial candidate at that time had Chief Somare quited and still today. Don't you think people of Kandep are stupid and blind to over look DON for someone like Alfred Manase or anybody else?

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[> [> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepen Opene
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Date Posted: Sun, Mar 30 2008, 08:16:54pm

Kandepian Wane

I heard a different story. Polye abused his status and NA Party resources at that time by hijacking most ballot boxes which were diverted to his 'akalyandas' where voting took place on behalf of the vast majority. The disciplined forces were bribed and hence his win was guaranteed. Sure, Manase might have done such a thing on a small scale but Polye took a mega-chunk from the cake of 'vote rigging' and 'corruption'.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
SB
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Date Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2008, 12:30:07am

As the saying goes, there are always 2 sides to a story but I believe there are always 3 sides to a story. In this case, Manase's, Polye's and of course the truth.

The court will hear both side's story and hopefully determine the truth. Let's just hope the result will reveal the truth and bring justice to those that have been wronged.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 01 2008, 07:08:21pm

Kandepen Opene,
Your impression of what you heard from largely biased sources is misleading. Not at one stage did Polye order or orchestrate any thing to rig the election in Kandep. There may have been isolated instances of irregularities by individual supporters but Polye never got involved like Manase did himself, he did with a criminal intent.
You would know what I am saying if you are a true Kandepian and was there yourself during the time of election.
PAPA ANTAP TASOL SAVE HUSAIT EM ITOK TRU NA HUSAIT GIAMAN.

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[> Subject: Court House_1


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2008, 04:57:25pm

‘Lawyers cause delays in petitions’
By JOSHUA ARLO
KANDEP Open MP Don Polye’s lawyer was cautioned yesterday by National Court judge Justice Mark Sevua against filing affidavits surpassing the number of witnesses indicated to give evidence, saying most delays in petitions are caused by lawyers.
Lawyer Paulus Dowa was told that he could not file extra affidavits and then seek leave of court to accept them as supporting evidence in this election petition.
The court said this as earlier it was informed that Mr Polye had planned to have 50 witnesses. However his lawyer went ahead and filed 61 affidavits instead.
Justice Sevua told Mr Dowa not to use the court as a “rubber stamp”.
The petition was filed by Alfred Luke Manase against Mr Polye on allegations of malpractices.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Court House_1


Author:
Curious
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 01 2008, 06:56:07pm

this will be a very interesting case to follow, whatever the outcome maybe. The defendant being a Prime Ministerial hopeful and the petitioner a very successful lawyer.

Let's just hope the people of Kandep do not get forgotten in the aftermath.

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane (Kiningii)
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 01 2008, 09:54:20pm

Fellows,
After having stated what I personally experienced and saw in Kandep during the election, I now leave it to the court to decide the case between my two brothers in few days time.
I have no regret whatsoever for the benefit of this forum users and other professional people to say what I said in my series of arguements, the TRUTH must be let known.
I may have hurt some of you in the process but I have to inform this forum for its benefit.
Remember! where there is PLAIN TRUTH discussed, there is no room for debate. Hear after....

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[> [> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Sari Songster (Truth tra lala)
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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 03 2008, 06:11:56am

They say that truth
tra lala
is taken with vermouth
tra lala
in a booth
with friends uncouth
and little friend Ruth
Tra lala
at the end of the day
in the moth of May
they all sat down and screamed
forsooth!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Wake Wan (Wake Wan)
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 12 2008, 03:30:24pm

This will be a very interesting case and I can't wait to know the truth...who is winning? Alfie or Don.
Komai

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[> Subject: Polye slams use of his name to cause problems


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2008, 06:57:29pm

Polye slams use of his name to cause problems
By JAMES APA GUMUNO
WORKS Minister and Kandep Open MP Don Poyle has urged his people not to use his name to cause problems regarding his election petition now before the court.
Mr Polye, who is also the Minister for Civil Aviation, told his people in Mt Hagen that election petition is a normal process.
He said a petitioner has constitutional rights to bring the matter to court when he is not happy with the election results.
Mr Polye said the people should respect the court, the petitioner and himself and allow the judicial system to take its course.
He said that his supporters should be mindful of that and maintain peace and harmony. Mr Polye urged supporters of both parties, petitioner Alfred Manase and himself, to maintain peace and harmony.
He said supporters from both sides have nothing to do with the petition and they cannot take the law into their own hands.
He strongly appealed to his supporters back in the district and some in the Western Highlands province not to cause any trouble using the election petition as an excuse.
Mr Polye said people should learn to respect one another and look after infrastructure developments in the province.
He said the people should accept the decision of the court as it is an independent body.
Meanwhile, Mt Hagen National Court postponed the hearing on the submissions from the all parties whether there was enough to effect the outcome of the Kandep Open.
Justice Gregory Lay urged all parties to return next week.

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[> Subject: Re: A. Manase vs D. Polye


Author:
Kandepian Wane (Kiningii)
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 26 2008, 08:54:21am

Wake Wane,
Lawyer Alfred Manase is there to prove himself to the people of Kandep, Enga and PNG and other colleque lawyers as a top election petition lawyer in his own election petition against the top politician Don Pomb Polye for the Kandep Open Electorate where both hails from. And everyone is waiting anxiously for Alfred to PROVE HIS WORTH as a lawyer in no other than this case.
As Chicko stated above, a decision will be handed down this coming Monday on whether the petition should proceed to trial or dismissed.

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[> Subject: Competency Application Decision Today (28.04.08)


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Mon, Apr 28 2008, 10:03:43am

For those who have been following this case, a decision will be handed down today (Monday 28th April 08) in Mt Hagen at 1:30pm regarding a Competency Application filed by Don Polye against the allegations raised in the Court of Disputed Returns for the Kandep Open Electorate by Alfred Manase.
I will post the outcome so keep a watch!

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[> Subject: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Mon, Apr 28 2008, 03:56:49pm

The decision was handed down today at 1:30pm today that the case between Don Polye and Alfred Manase will go on full trial starting tomorrow. Don Polye's attempt to strike off the case has been thrown out by Judge Gregory Leey today.

For those interested.

Cheers.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
MINALU
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2008, 08:57:06am

Chicko,
This is interesting when many thought would be struck out on the basis of incompetency. I heard from a Don's supporter yesterday that the matter is still not gone into full but partial to see if the numbers would still affect the result and why were the boxes held at Wabag not allowed to be counted?

Please keep posting on the progress of this case.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2008, 05:57:03pm

Off course, one of Don's strategy I observed is he tells his supporters & cohorts what they want to hear then what they need to hear. The recounting of ballot boxes was and is never part of Alfred Manase's petition, Don brought this up last week and the decision was made yesterday by the judge and it was thrown out. They have meet this morning again to set the date for full trial which is going to start tomorrow (Wed). I will update when further info becomes available.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Kandepian Wane (Kiningii)
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 08:50:31am

Chicko,
It is very interesting to learn that Alfred never asked the Court as part of his relieve sought for a recount of the so many disputed boxes held in Wabag? As I know they contain about 8,000 illegally marked ballot papers for Alfred Manase and one other which could definitely affect the result of election results.
Apart from Alfred seeking to nulify the election victory of Don the same court will find out the criminal act of Alfred. Remember what goes around will come back and your own trap will catch you.

Over to you

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 10:25:39am

KW,
The whole manner in which the election was conducted in Kandep posed a lot of suspicision among a lot of people. It's prejudice to sabotage anyone when the case is still in progress. Hopefully whoever is the culprit will be revealed and then you and I can draw our conclusions.

At this stage, I hear your king don polye is fighting to keep his lawyer after he failed to strike off the petition case....so you should now start to believe that Alfred Manase has proven his capacities as a top election petition lawyer by denting king polye's ego cartel. At least one step forward for Alfred is 10 steps backward for your king.

Cheers,

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 01:55:16pm

Chicko,
The Court is an independent body and as such the decision could be in anyone's favour, sometimes by luck, even when you are lying and fabrication.
But the truth is that you bunch of rejected so called SAVEMAN from Kandep started hijacking ballot boxes with an intention of causing Kandep a failed election. Then few people may have reacted from what you started which the court will determine.
My arguement all along is, you initiated all the problem and now you want to blame it on Don because you failed misserablly on your first attempt.
I don't want a by election ordered for this matter but should it be ordered, see if you will score anything in Kandep again. This time Done will walk in almost unopposed. On this ground it is unnecessary and waste of time for everyone us because you are not serving the wish of the small people but being used by few individuals selfish reasons.
I know about 95% of the people of Kandep are well behind their admired leader and where do you REJECTED guys fit in??? The world will prove again should a by election be somwhow ordered.....

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 04:12:35pm

Kandepian Wane,
You can bend over to your godly master don polye, who is way above your small capacity to think for yourself. Some of us can't sit and watch a con-artist rule Kandep people from Api in Hagen. I warn you, we will fight until the last man standing. Your negativity here is a show of a desperate person so devoured by the pathetic attitudes of your godly master.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Vote rigging!


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Thu, May 01 2008, 07:41:17am

Pure vote rigging...if you know what this means!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Kandepian Wane (Kiningii)
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 07:53:22pm

Chicko,
I agree with you on the principle of what is wrong and what is right but you have not provided any realistic arguements to point out what Don did was wrong like my agrguements against the petitioner. Otherwise yours is on mere assumptions due to your own personal difference and burning jealousy I guess.
Otherwise point to this forum what he did was wrong so we can know.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Court of Disputed Returns to go on full Trial


Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Thu, May 01 2008, 08:58:25am

Chicko,
Pure vote rigging by whom and was there an intention of vote rigging? NO NO NO!!

If you are from Kandep and have been in Kandep during the polling Don had 90% support in all the boxes now being contested as being improperly or illegally cast or in your opinion "RIGGED".
But it was all now losing candidates including yours who mobilised to disturb the voting process in entire Kandep.

It was never Don or his supporters intention nor doing because he was having more than the absolute majority support in the entire Kandep Electorate except for Mambala and Kumbanda Wards where former Jimson Sauk and Michael Marabe comes from.

That remains the HARD FACT and now you want to technically make it look as if it failed.

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Author:
Komai (Wake Wane)
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Date Posted: Thu, May 08 2008, 08:31:32am

Kandepen Wane,

I strongly support Chiko in this argument. If you think your corn artist don pomb is free of any guilt regarding this matter, I must tell you that you have been deafened and blind folded by his lies.

Remember, other contestants got less than the total number of their supporters. I believe other contestants also had thousands of people supporting them where they had influence over. The number of votes the others had proves to be strong evidence to me that your con artist was behind all these foul plays.

If you are a Kandepen, you should think with a bigger picture instead of supporting one pathetic soul. Think of the thousands who didn't express their rights...even I didn't have the chance of casting my choice and so as many other Wakes...The court will decide for the neglected many against this one person's interest..

Wake Wane

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Thu, May 08 2008, 10:35:45pm

Wake Wane,
Now you are talking to this forum as if you would have scored any better votes in Kandep last time but due to this and that you didn't. The people of Kandep have unanimously endorsed DON POMB POLYE as their KING which you can not withstand the might of his force.
Even your own hauslain regarded you all as insignificants in terms of politics and will not reach heights like Don has. And he is not a con artist as Komai and others so wish he was but is the Leader of Kandep, Enga, Highlands and PNG and he is the next potential PM of PNG and not a tea boy like all of you would have become had you won.
Remember, people of Kandep are very smart and intelligent who can make right decisions and not be fooled around by self centred blokes like you.
That is why your own people rejected you all and you had to start hijacking boxes to safe your faces. Otherwise you would have scored almost nothing. Now you want to save face by going to courts and media and pretend you are someone.
As long as Don lives people will fall and raise up with him and will not take heed of your cries.
I must again inform this forum including Komai that Don will still win on primary counts should a by election be ordered from this court case. This tome will be by more than 90% of the total votes cast.

Mi sori long yu.

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Author:
Komai (Wake Wane)
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Date Posted: Fri, May 09 2008, 08:02:51am

Kandepen Wane,

You've got some points here. You for sure know that there will be a by-election. I don't know what makes you think there will be one but I guess you've lost your fate. You have declared Kandepens to be smart people(I strongly support this point) and yes, we'll wait and see if Alfie Manase will confirm your statement; I think Alfie knows his way around in terms of the Law, though you may claim you are worshiping no one but you king polye.

I must state my self clear here that if there should be a by-election; I'll see if you will score 90% or otherwise.

Wake Wane

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Fri, May 09 2008, 01:49:54pm

Wake Wane,
You got me terribly wrong when I made a point clear to you. Anyway, that is what you wish happens but I'm so sorry it will not happen.
I know all of you are praying that Alfred does a miracle to nullify Polye's victory which you must know will not happen. If your lawyer knows how to get around the law, Don does better than that.
I am at times fed up of arguing with defeated falt betting on something.

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Author:
Komai (Wake Wane)
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Date Posted: Fri, May 09 2008, 05:24:22pm

Kandepen Wane,

I'm sorry if this arguement got out of hand; but I must tell you that if Don Polye while as deputy PM didn't commit such a terrible sin, he wouldn't be in court, or we won't have points to argue here. Besides, it is not a wish for this or that to happen - we are discussing here for the good of Kandep as a whole.

We'll see if your Don knows better than Alfie. If he wins, fine he can go on being the member for Kandep; but if it turns out to be the opposite, you and I shall know that he was doing something stupid that a deputy PM shouldn't be doing which is a disgrace to Kandep as a whole...

Wake Wane.

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Wed, May 14 2008, 11:24:46pm

Wake Wane,
You are definitely not doing it for the good of Kandep but for your own selfish ambition and crook reasons. And can you tell this intellectual forum as to what particular wrong did Don commit at that time which you are referring to? Can you also provide this forum with facts to substantiate your claim? If you can not, please don't infilterate this forum with shits.
Of course Don is better than all of you are, that is why he is STILL the front contender for the Prime Ministership and was the Deputy Prime Minister and acting Prime Minister and is the Minister for so many Depts and Highlands Leader. That is how people of Kandep, Enga and Highlands have given him the overwhelming mandate to rule. Now, what are you trying to prove here,small boys?
Stay foot where you can best serve instead of envying someone else's career. You might never be like him.

Over to you.

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Author:
Komai (Wake Wane)
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Date Posted: Thu, May 15 2008, 02:46:33pm

Kandepian Wane,

All your questions will be answered by the court. The way you are talking in this forum seems to me that you're one of Don's best shit cleaners.

Just hang on mate and stop taking the law in your own hands...wait till the court is over; then you can tell me I'm a small boy...otherwise, just relax.

Cheers,
Wake Wane

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Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Sat, May 17 2008, 07:27:46am

Only a fool echoes a prudent roar!

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Thu, May 15 2008, 06:32:59pm

Wake Wane,
See, you have nothing to substantiate but hoping for a better outcome in your favour by the court.
And you are already a small boy and don't need the court to interpret it. Whatever the outcome of the court case is, is beside the point and you'll stop only at the court room and will never advance further into politics.
Bro, let's talk facts and and don't get emotional because of lack of evidence.
Cheers

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Author:
Komai (Wake Wane)
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Date Posted: Sat, May 17 2008, 12:58:13pm

Kandepian Wane,

By the way, I think Chiko is right...I better stop here because I'm just wasting my time talking to a fool...
Cheers,

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Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Sat, May 17 2008, 09:16:38pm

Wake Wane & Chicko,
Simply you have nothing more and can not put up with the truth any longer hence conceding defeat.

Remember the TRUTH always prevail and fools bow out in shame and vanish.....

For now, shut up and anxiously wait for the outcome of the court case. By then you might have a point to talk.

Kiningi

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Chicko
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Date Posted: Sun, May 18 2008, 07:03:24am

Buddy,

Your god has been dethroned!

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Sun, May 18 2008, 08:14:26am

Chicko,
I think it is a rumour that you really want it take place for your own sake. As for the people of Kandep, Enga, Highlands and PNG will not be happy to see such thing happen again.
By the way, it is only a rumour and will not take place as individuals like yourself wish.

Kiningi

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Author:
Komai (Wake Wane)
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Date Posted: Mon, May 19 2008, 08:00:42am

Kandepian Wane,

Yes Chicko is right...your small god has been dethrowned. I heard on the news.

Cheers,

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Author:
Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Tue, May 27 2008, 07:12:50pm

Wake Wane,
I told chicko above that it will not happen and has not happened. Polye is still in full control of his Ministries and was never stripped!
The news you heard and paper (sunday chronicles) chicko read must have played tricks to your ears and eyes and minds and your excitement must have short lived, now that Polye is still a Minister and with full responsibilities.

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[> Subject: Polye trial begins


Author:
Chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 11:58:04am

Polye trial begins
By JACOB POK (The National 30.04.08)
THE trial of the petition challenging the election of Works, Transport and Civil Aviation Minister Don Polye as Kandep MP starts today.
Last week the court found that there were grounds for this petition, filed by lawyer Alfred Manase, to go to trial.
Yesterday, Mr Polye’s lawyers asked Justice Greg Lay to delay the case for two weeks so they could prepare themselves.
But Paul Mawa, representing Mr Manase, objected to this, saying the trial should start in earnest.
Mr Mawa said they have more than 100 witnesses to call and if the case was deferred, it would cost them a lot of money.
Justice Lay agreed and set the matter down for this morning.The trial will commence on the allegation concerning eight disputed boxes.
Although Mr Polye polled thousands of votes over his nearest rival, there were still claims of foul play.

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[> Subject: Polye trial begins


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Chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2008, 12:02:38pm

Polye trial begins
By JACOB POK
THE trial of the petition challenging the election of Works, Transport and Civil Aviation Minister Don Polye as Kandep MP starts today.
Last week the court found that there were grounds for this petition, filed by lawyer Alfred Manase, to go to trial.
Yesterday, Mr Polye’s lawyers asked Justice Greg Lay to delay the case for two weeks so they could prepare themselves.
But Paul Mawa, representing Mr Manase, objected to this, saying the trial should start in earnest.
Mr Mawa said they have more than 100 witnesses to call and if the case was deferred, it would cost them a lot of money.
Justice Lay agreed and set the matter down for this morning.The trial will commence on the allegation concerning eight disputed boxes.
Although Mr Polye polled thousands of votes over his nearest rival, there were still claims of foul play.

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[> Subject: 1st day of trial


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Chicko
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Date Posted: Thu, May 01 2008, 07:48:33am

For those interested, yesterday was the first day of trial and Alfred Manase took the witness box all day, Alfred will today stage another two witness.

Will keep you updated.

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Kandepian Wane
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Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 08:44:06am

Everyone,
This is interestingly the other side of the story on the first day of trial?

Petitioner denies hijacking boxes
By JACOB POK
THE petitioner challenging the election of Don Polye as Member for Kandep yesterday denied engaging his boys to hijack four ballot boxes during last year’s general elections.
It was alleged Alfred Manase got his boys to block the road at Komutin village on July 3 last year to hijack the boxes, but Mr Manase denied it.
Mr Manase, who was the runner-up in the election, is the first witness to stand with the petition now going to trial.
Denying the allegation, he said he was at Tinjipa village when he heard about the hijack and he went to Komutin that night and asked the hijackers to release the boxes.
He said they did release the boxes to polling officials and police, and the ballot boxes were in good condition.
Mr Manase was also asked whether he had any knowledge about his supporters removing two bridges and a culvert on the road leading towards his village.
He said he did not know or authorise such a thing.
He said the two bridges and culvert were still intact when he crossed it on July 3.
Mr Manase denied being armed with a bushknife and standing among people before polling day, although he conceded it was common for the Enga people in the villages to carry bush knives around.
He told the court that on July 3 he and other candidates like Jimson Sauk and James Tumbin staged a protest at the Kandep district office after the names of presiding officers were released without any names of the other polling officials.
He said when they demanded for the full list to be put out, the security personnel attacked Mr Tumbin.
He claimed that many of Polye’s supporters were reserve police in police uniform and were escorting the ballot boxes.
Mr Manase alleged that some of the reservists were teachers and locals and added he he was confused as to where they got their uniforms from.

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[> Subject: Trial Continues: Polling disrupted at Kandep, says witness


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Chicko
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Date Posted: Mon, May 19 2008, 12:51:58pm

Polling disrupted at Kandep, says witness
By JAMES APA GUMUNO
THE trial of the election petition for Kandep Open continued last Friday, with a witness telling how polling was disrupted in a polling area.
Lawyer for candidate Alfred Manase is challenging the election of Don Polye as MP for Kandep on grounds of alleged illegal practices.
Witness Watali Mavi said election officials set up the polling area at Walupi 2 after midday and proceeded to carry out an awareness on the limited preferential voting system.
Mr Mavi said polling started around 5pm and scrutineers were told to stay 30 metres away from the polling booth but they bunched up and were merely about four metres away.
Mr Mavi said when Josephine Amuni’s name was called out she asked presiding officer Lily Cletus to mark the ballot paper on her behalf.
He said Mrs Amuni told Mr Cletus to mark Vote 1 for Mr Manase, preference 2 for another candidate and preference 3 for Mr Polye.
Instead, Mr Cletus marked preference 1 for Mr Polye and this upset the scrutineers who demanded to remove her, he said.
Mr Mavi said when she refused, the srcutineers went in and grabbed the ballot box.
The box was damaged in a tussle and supporters and polling officials ran off with ballot papers.
He said there was no polling and he did not vote.
Mr Mavi said he was surprised when news came from the vote counting room in Wabag that votes for Walupi 2 had been counted.
Lawyer Ray William for the Electoral Commission asked Mr Mavi whether it was true that he was among the scrutineers who went in and pulled the ballot boxes and destroyed them. He admitted it.
When Mr William asked whether he lodged a complaint with the assistant returning officer about the incident Mr Mavi said no.
He asked Mr Mavi why he did not return the half unmarked ballot papers to the security personnel when they arrived at the scene 10 minutes later.
Mr Mavi replied that polling officials were involved in foul play and he was reluctant to hand over the unmarked ballot papers to the security personnel.
Mr William also put to Mr Mavi that the next day, July 4, a reserve ballot box # 75 was given along with 322 ballot papers for the polling at Walupi 2 and polling was conducted peacefully.
But Mr Mavi insisted that there was no polling.
The trial continues today.

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