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Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Robert Monike (Ipatas as King) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 06:29:05am In reply to: Fr. Robert Plews Laka, SVD 's message, "Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM" on Sun, May 04 2008, 02:55:45am The essence of Ipatas' term as leader of Enga is characterised mainly by the fact that Engans, by and large, have voted him back into office again and again. Does this not illustrate the nature and character of Engans? If you criticise Ipatas you, by extension, criticise Engans for they are responsible for putting a criminal into office. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Eagles Eyes [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 09:39:12pm Mr. Monike, Please get to understand that, all his wins were through the back. Majority of the Engans know this and have never spoken out. They have been blind folded with Ipatas' heavy cash handouts. You must be one of the few lured by Ipatas' cash handouts. Bro, open your mind and just look at the state of Wabag Town rather than other infrastructures. Yet he wanted to be a PM, Im wonder what type of vision he has for PNG if he can't do it at a smaller scale. Read and understand the facts outlined by Robert P.svd. He has written for the have nots (Majority Engans) Open_up [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Fr. Robert P. Laka, SVD (Not justified) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sun, May 04 2008, 10:58:56pm My friend, I have no objection to your opinion on what Engans by large hold on Mr. Ipatas, however, this is debatable because this is not the view of all of Enga, though some maybe held accountable for voting him in, I even cannot use the term "vote" in this scenario. If millions of kinas have been used and ballot papers being hijacked, and destroyed, I refuse to call it a "vote". My paper does not criticize all Engans per se, but indeed it criticize the selected few Engans who are affiliated to the club that promotes partiality. This is a negligence of civic rights people have. If that is what peoples what, then let it be, but this may not go unheard. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Robert Monike (If Ipatas is a criminal?) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 07:02:21am OK Mr Laka, if that is so then why has not the Engan population ever complained to the electoral commission or to the police? It is because Ipatas symbolises the collapse of papua New Guinea. The Engan Governor is a joke. How can a criminal govern with the express compliance of the Engan population, the police, judiciary and even your church? Because Enga, as well as PNG, has collapsed into a rotting pile of corrupted garbage. The nation of Papua New Guinea is as big a joke as is Ipatas and you know it, Mr Laka. All your kinky religious words do not obfuscate the reality of Ipatas the criminal and Enga the criminal province. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Fr. Robert P. Laka, svd (My patriotism) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 02:42:59pm Mr. Monike, the problem I have is the problem you have stated in a question which you yourself have answered. I still cannot understand why Engan population cannot stand up against anything fishy like that. Maybe there are more then just simple intellectual logics to be applied in the context of Engan worldviews, or maybe PNG is yet to grasp the nature of traditional leadership style (bigman mentality) to a modern day leadership, (democracy). But that does not negate the possibility of change in Enga and PNG politics. The problem I have though is the way in which the content of my note on the hope I have raised was labeled into some “kinky religious word” into mere confusion. This alone makes my position “obfuscates” the ideologies you have and the realities present in Enga and PNG. The critique of your argument, “Ipatas the criminal and Enga the criminal province” does not reflect the positions of many good Engans have. At the same time, it does not represent my patriotism for Enga as her son to label it as a "criminal province". [ Post a Reply to This Message ]