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Subject: Don Polye's win thru rigging


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Chiko
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 20 2007, 02:00:43pm

Don Polye won through vote rigging



I feel intriguingly shattered to witness the people of Kandep deprived of their democratic right to vote in this year’s election. It is a sad state for democracy in this 21st century when we supposed to be moving forward, the Kandep people have stepped miles back orchestrated by a few power hungry cohorts of the Deputy Prime Minister Don Polye.



It was revealed that the night before the polling, the Returning Officer (RO) for Kandep with the help of some polling officials and police who were associates of Don Polye manipulated the ballot papers and filled several ballot boxes and assigned to numerous un-gazetted polling areas. The result of this eventuated to the arrest of the RO and is now on bail.

The polling day turned to an event where most of the rural areas of Kandep, the Wage areas and the Mariant constituencies were denied their rights to vote when the polling officials didn’t even turn up at the polling places. At most places, the people waited until noon and later found out that the polling in Kandep has been complete.

It was shocking to see poor people denied their democratic right to vote. The polling officials have rigged the votes and as a result all the boxes counted from these areas had nil votes for the other candidates.

Some of the candidates who contested the Kandep open were people of high standing in the private and public sector and had support from all parts of Kandep. To name a few, Alfred Manase is a prominent lawyer, Peter Mission was the former Managing Director of Post PNG, Paul Itiogen was a former chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority, Jimson Sauk was the former MP for Kandep for 15 years and Herman Anep was the former planning advisor to the Morobe Provincial Government. It is mysteries these people who are prominent people in their tribes and Kandep didn’t even afford to muster their own tribal votes. The votes that were scored by these other candidates were from the Kandep station areas where there was sufficient security personal and proper polling was staged.

Therefore, it is shame for Don Polye to celebrate knowing that he has orchestrated the whole affair and the truth will come out at the court of disputed returns.

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MuliMaip
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 20 2007, 04:26:46pm

You got some good points that ahould help prepare a case against the DPM in the court of disputed returns.....raise them in the appropriate avenue....this definately is not that avenue. Your comments are inciting frustration and hate among those who surf in this site. For the good of all of us on this forum, please refrain.

What many of us want to hear right now is how the rest of the electorates and the regional counts are progressings.

Many thanks

MuliMaip

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Kambi
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 20 2007, 08:11:04pm

Chiko's got every right to post his opinions here, I've seen far more inciting things written here the one posted by Chiko.

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Cool_Guy1
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Date Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2007, 12:14:31pm

I think forums are meant for discussion on issues and chiko's got every right to express himself here. This forum is meant for meaningful discussions, and if you feel frustrated about an issue and ideas that someone raises then you are not supposed to read the thread or you are being naive. It is just a mouse click away, just ignore someones thread and move on. Mind you, forums are meant for people to raise their inner ambitions and feelings, what they feel and believe is happening or should happen. They have to share it. "pii nalaren ongo kapus yale puruk lengen lare".. got to express yourself somewhere and forums are meant for it.

What chiko is raising can sound like fabrication to put someone down, but, if you read the lines properly, there are some valid points.

I for one am a Don Polye supporter, even though i am not from Kandep. He has made his mark in the political scene in Papua New Guinea. For a first time parliamentarian, he has become a high calibre politician, which is a dream for long serving politicians. I was hoping that Kandep people would return him, with fair votes, and they did, however, i seem to have questions about the way he was returned. The questions that have been lingering in my mind, of which some people that i talked to have the same questions.

1. How on earth can someone score zero. Did the contestant gave his first vote to Don Polye?

2. Engan politics is played along tribal lines.. How can someone score nil.. or even collect less than 100? It is unbelievable and fascinating. Even some of my friends from other part of Papua New Guinea are fascinated by the results of Kandep electorate.

Please someone answer this questions and put to rest those lingering questions that still puzzles me. I would have thought, Don Polye would enter parliament through a clean and fair election but, the way things have turned out makes me wonder wether i should have respect for him as a no nonsense leader. If the Kandep people have not spoken through the normal election process than, dubious means of entering parliament can not be tolerated.

I have a feeling Kandep electorate is going for a court of disputed returns and fresh elections will be called.

Chiko, you have a valid point.

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PC
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Date Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2007, 03:14:46pm


More on this below.
Post Courier doesn't seem to have a good website for archieves so let Wai Pii fill that gap here.

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Focus Weekend Edition Fri - Mon 20th - 23rd July , 2007


Deputy Prime Minister Don Polye and member-elect for a second term for the Kandep Open electorate in the National Parliament believes this nation is governed by democratic principles and that PNG is not a failed state. He had faith in the Electoral Commission to conduct the elections when knockers said it would fail. He is back again to take the reins and lead PNG on.

Polye sets the precedent

After it was declared Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Civil Aviation , Don Pomb Polye the winner of Kandep Open electorate in Enga Province on Monday at the completion of counting of the primary votes, more than 10,000 Kandep men and women took to the streets of Wabag town to join Mr Polye in celebrations.
But in a stunning turn of events, Kandep Returning Officer, Naipet Keai soon after Mr Polye’s declaration, was charged by police on several counts of election fraud and was locked up at the Wabag Police Station. He was later released on bail.
Mr Polye publicly went on radio after his victory to say that he was humbled by the voters and their overwhelming support and confidence in him.
He polled 72.99 per cent of the first preference votes according to the PNG Electoral Commission website. He collected 21,593 votes from the total allowable votes of 29,632 votes. Nine ballot boxes with votes were disputed and not counted.
Seventeen candidates contested the election and none of them in the race behind Mr Polye scored 10 per cent or more of the total allowable votes in the count.
Unlike in the First Past the Post where each voter makes one choice or preference, in the new Limited Preferential Voting, each person votes once but in the preference of first, second and third candidate.
The July 2007 issue of The Economics magazine, published in London and circulated worldwide portrayed a negative view on the PNG elections.
The magazine said standing for the PNG Parliament was an expensive business in a poor country of less than 6 million people with an average of 25 candidates contesting each of the 109 seats, diminishing their chances of success.
The magazine went on further, “What PNG voters need, though is more than just a few treats once every five years. Government at all levels is deeply inefficient and riddled with corruption. Though annual economic growth has picked up to around 4.3 per cent, that is barely more than the rate of population growth so income per head is stagnant.
“The country has huge potential for mining, agriculture and forestry but its government lacks the capacity to manage these sustainably. A HIV epidemic is sweeping the country but, so far, few suffers are receiving antiretroviral drugs. Schools, health clinics and roads have decayed, despite the billion of dollars that Australia, by far the largest donor, has pumped into its former colony in recent years.”
Former editor of the Post-Courier, late Luke Sela, wrote from his home in Manus, that “Parliamentary Democracy is alive and well and thriving after 30 years of independence” in PNG for the Post-Courier’s 30th Independence Anniversary Commemorative Special magazine in 2005.
Mr Sela went on and write “No one can truthfully say PNG is a ‘Banana Republic.’ We have powerfully demonstrated that our system of democracy can work. And it is working for the whole world to see.”

Mike Manning, head of PNG Transparency International who also wrote for the Post-Courier’s 30th Independence Anniversary Commemorative Special magazine said: “For too many years PNG has acted like a rich country that can provide all things to all people. Sadly it is not rich, in cash terms it is poor. But it has the potential that few other countries have, to become rich in a relatively short period of time if only it manages its resources better.
“It has a vast reservoir of happy and co-operative people who are bursting to be able to participate in its economy and its development and all it has to do is provide them with the wherewithal to be able to do so.”

Mr Polye before and after his election victory, firmly spoke on TV and radio that he believed in this nation based on democratic principles and that it was not a failed state as many people may want to think. He said he had faith in the PNG Electoral Commission that it would successfully conduct the 2007 National Election when there were speculations that the elections would fail.
The results of the LPV are indications of popularity voting and have a broader electorate appeal. Mr Polye now enjoys that appeal together with his other 108 colleagues who will be elected into the National Parliament.

Would it not be justifiable if Mr Polye and his colleagues who will be members of Parliament to reciprocate this broader electorate appeal and do as Mr Polye has pledged to his people, to provide the best leadership and basic services in terms of road infrastructure, health, education and a community empowered economic independence?

http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20070720/frhome.htm

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Anti -NA
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Date Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2007, 03:28:54pm

Further signs showing something really BIG happened.
From statistics available at the PNG Electoral Commission website [http://www.pngec.gov.pg/resultsNat2007/KandepOpen.htm]
somethings are very obvious.

Total Allowable Ballot Papers = 31628
Informal = 99
Grand Total All Ballot Papers = 31727

The Informal Votes registered for Port Moresby seats and other towns are much higher than Kandep.

Kandepens appeared to have masterred the new concept of voting (PLV) and voted in the fly with no difficulties at all. This clearly defies the norms.

Certainly NOT everyone in PNG are gullible to believe a lie from a NA man.

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Author:
Eagles Eyes (Wane yango)
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Date Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2007, 08:19:41pm

Polye deserves his next regin in the parliament for he has made the Engans and the Kandapens proud by performing the roles in the national level despite being a first timer as MP.
Kandepens lets stop these complains and let justice prevail as the nation is aware of this issue. There is no people like Polye and never will be in the future so lets pray for such good leaders who has set the standard in the national level. Here we are more like defaming his character so I suggest if we can quit from here.

Eagles eyes

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Author:
MuliMaip
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Date Posted: Sun, Jul 22 2007, 03:14:45pm

Some of us are good at bringing credible man to disrepute when they are at the limelight of their careers. We stretch our efforts as thin as we can to get to the last detail to present a case against a few good people. I wonder what will become of us if we stretch that hard to build than to destroy. Until the courts find their elections null and void.....I would rather not gamble.

Regards

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Author:
Chiko
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Date Posted: Mon, Jul 23 2007, 07:04:31pm

MuliMaip,

If I can divert your attention to Newton's Third Law says that "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction".
If your deeds are good, there is equal good reaction, but otherwise you'll get equal bad reaction.....your actions will set your destiny....

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Author:
MuliMaip
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Date Posted: Mon, Jul 23 2007, 07:10:43pm

Chiko,

Suit yourself.....stretch as far as you can, who will you quote next Albert Einsten or Eddie Murphy....

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Chiko
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Date Posted: Mon, Jul 23 2007, 07:51:35pm

There you go........more reaction!!!

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Kaika
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2007, 01:46:13am

The other candidates as respected clan leaders as they maybe, none of them will rise above any further than Polye. I dont demean their capabilities but Chiko you look at it. Obvoiusly you support one of those that did not stretch further than 3000. Or maybe the "tribal leader" who set record in PNG LPV by tallying "0"!
But now that country is morning for one of the great leaders of this country...Sir. we dont want another Turvurvur to go to parliament and become back bench for life! You mention Jimson Sauk, i know him personally and he is a good man but he will never wear the boots of Polye again. The others - mison, alfred, etc from the start they became "endlitiyok". and that early they showed signs of flawed character and personality as a leader.
we have only few leaders left in this country and the country is zooming on Polye so alumalim pi lapeta silino ange kai.

Kiaka

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Ulutange
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2007, 07:39:11am

Kaika,
Standing for election is a democratic right and no-one should deprive one from that right as a citizen of the country.

It is that right that people like Manase, Peter, and others exercised in running for the election and I do not understand why you are undermining these people. In Wabag/Wapenamanda, we don't tolerate such mentaility.

You can not compare yourself with Don, Peter, Alfred. I don't think they like people such as yourself comparing them-one against the other. Everybody should be treated as unique and have special qualities that another person doesn't have.

Now that political season is over, its time they should all reconcille and work together for the betterment of Kandep. The same should apply for all electorates.

Mambo andake

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Chiko
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2007, 10:37:38am

Kaika or Kiaka or whoever you are, the mentality that you're showing in this forum is immature at its best. An election is only a fair election if the democratic rights of the people are excercised, not when one deprives of this right.

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pc
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2007, 02:25:15pm

Hold post-mortem on Kandep results

DON Polye’s win in the Kandep seat, with over 70% of the votes and only 47 informal votes, is an amazing record in PNG’s political history, particularly for an Open seat.
He polled 21,820 votes, whilst his nearest rival, Alfred Manase, collected 3,149 votes.
The nation is watching very closely on who else would score such an amazing number of votes in the first count in the current counting process across PNG.
Polye’s landslide victory created the perception that he was very highly favoured despite stiff competition given him by 16 other candidates.
It is also interesting for a Highlands electorate to be declared days ahead of all other seats.
This is supposedly a relief for the deputy prime minister, who did not have to go through the elimination process under the limited preferential voting (LPV) system, which other candidates are subjected to.
The runner-up, Manase, is one of the nation’s leading lawyers.
Herman Anep is a prominent public servant, who worked as a planner for Morobe for well over 20 years and a successful businessman. He scored only 1,730 votes.
Jimson Sauk, who has been in Parliament for 15 years until he lost to Polye in 2002 with a difference of 1,500 votes, scored a mere 943 votes in this election. This is despite the popular support Sauk enjoyed during the campaign period.
Be Pepo, who is a successful businessman, and a major contractor to Porgera Joint Venture, ended with 408 votes. This is also surprisingly contrary to the support he had prior to polling.
Michael Marabe, who was once a deputy governor of Enga, and prominent leader of Kandep and Enga, polled 833 votes.
Peter Mision, a former managing director of Post PNG, received 373 votes.
Kenneth Andrew, another popular candidate, scored only 478 votes, which was also far less than the support he had during the campaigns.
James Tumbin, a Lands officer, who consistently enjoyed popular support over the last two elections, scored only 833 votes.
Paul Itogen, once the chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority and an academic at Unitech and UPNG, scored only one vote.
Despite their personal integrity, the outcome of the election process simply tells the voters, as well as the rest of the nation, that these contenders were not serious in their campaigns, although it is public knowledge in Kandep that they were serious contenders.
In addition, it is an indication that these candidates, including Manase, had no backing from their tribes and associates, which is a normal prerequisite to anyone considering candidacy in any election in the Highlands.
The three independent candidates mysteriously scored no votes, while four others scored 49, nine, eight and two votes respectively. What kind of candidates were they?
It is uncommon in Highlands politics to score as low as those witnessed in Kandep under normal election situations.
Thus, it would be proper and wise if the PNG Electoral Commission conduct a post-mortem on the elections in Kandep electorate in particular.

It should include the following issues:
*Transportation of ballot boxes and ballot papers;
*The status of ballot papers in the night prior to actual voting;
*The handling of ballot papers and boxes whilst dispersing into polling areas;
*The return of ballot papers and boxes;
*The deployment and conduct of security personnel;
*The relationship between the sitting member and the returning officer along with other election officials:
*The manner in which the election officials were appointed by the returning officer;
*The conduct of the returning officer and the election officials,
*The amount of time allowed in voting; and,
*The whereabouts of all leftover ballot papers when voters and polling officials were forced to stop voting only after about 20% of the ballot papers were allowed to be marked following voters’ choices.

For example, in a polling booth with 1,000 eligible voters, less than 200 people voted. The rest were unmarked and taken back, claiming that time was up. The papers were taken away with the respective presiding officers following the ballot papers.
Whilst counting at the counting centre, certain boxes were disregarded from inclusion in the counting by the returning officer. Whose base votes would these be?
At the conclusion of counting, Polye’s declaration was made under extra-tight security.
This was later shown in the EMTV news.
How could this be if Polye is the electorate’s hot favorite and if he is the proactive leader that he claims to be, based on godliness, honesty and transparency as uttered in his victory speech?
Interestingly, the arrest of the district returning officer immediately after the declaration of Polye signals a lot of fraud issues (eight counts as indicated so far) surrounding the conduct of elections in Kandep.
Apart from these, it has been alleged that Polye nominated outside of the normal nomination processes and the allegations that he was almost assassinated in the electorate are still pending.
Taking all the above into account, this particular election in Kandep was unprecedented in the level of foul play, vote rigging, fraud and other corrupt practices, to influence the outcome in favour of the sitting member as it indeed happened.
The onus is now upon the Electoral Commission, National Research Institute, Ombudsman Commission, Transparency International and other agencies concerned with transparency and good governance to revisit this electorate to conduct the post-mortem.

A concerned Kandepen
Goroka

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Author:
MuliMaip
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2007, 06:01:44pm

You bunch of whingers go to the courts.....they are our last bastion of hope and established to administer justice......theoretically yes atleast.

Kapa Kae

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Cool_Guy1
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Date Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2007, 09:57:00am

MuliMaip, i think you are being so naive and childish. This forum is meant for discussions on issues and people have every right under the constitution to express themselves - (Freedom of speech). I think, there are some validity in the discussions and disertions that are presented here. It is the same sort of commentary that you would expect to get from political analysts.

I know you are a die hard fan of Don Polye, so am I. After reading through all the threads on this particular topic, i dont see anyone trying to tarnish Don Polye's character nor his integrity.

All issues raised by commentators here are merely facts. This are lingering questions that still puzzle Papua New Guinea, and it is only those who are responsible who have the answers.

For instance, just compare all the informal votes from Kandep electorate to that of Other electorates in PNG. I believe electoral commission must have spent millions trying to pilot the LPV concept in Kandep. If so then Kandep people are far more educated in the LPV system than rest of PNG.

So you see, most commentators on this particular topic could not establish the links, and thats confusing them. So i believe if you have the answer you could clarify what really happened and how on earth was there no votes for some candidates, not many informal votes.. etc..

If you cant come up with conclusive answers for this questions (because it is this questions that people are asking in their particular posts) then i suggest you look for the answers and stop trying to become like someone who is uneducated and dont know how to resolve issues.

Back home or anywhere else in PNG, supporters of two candidates clash over issues as such because they are not educated and cant make educated analysis of situations. As for us who are participating in this forum are educated, and we need to discuss issues as educated human beings and cant take the supporters mentality in this forum and start being up-tight because someone has tried to point out the facts about someone you favor.

The fact of the matter is Don Polye is back, an Engan son who achieved greatness in Politics as a first time parliamentarian. He gets my support. The only answer people in this forum seek is, the means by which he came in. Mind you, if he won through vote rigging, as police are still investigating the returning officer for diverting ballot boxes.. then, i believe he was wrong. I knew Kandep people would return him with fair votes. He performed as a first time parliamentarian and all of Enga was behind him to return. All we are questioning is the process that took place during the polling.

If people were not allowed to exercise their democratic right to cast their votes.. then it is a very serious issue. I believe, that brings to disrepute a clean and good character, that takes time to build.

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MuliMaip
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Date Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2007, 07:45:31pm

Hi KulGuy1,

I am sorry for upsetting some of you on this forum by my comments. I thought people would read my comments as just comments but to the contrary it did not go down well with some of you. For that I am terrible sorry and I take back all the grief my comments may have caused.

Secondly, I am not a Polye lover or more politely a supporter. I am not from Kandep and I never will be. Indeed I have lived away from Enga for the last 10 years and I don't know what it is like up there. I have no political affiliations to any individual or group with political interest in Enga as well as PNG. I have never voted in the last 2 elections in Enga. I believe in God, the rule of law and hard work. I have worked (I mean hard work) my way up the social hierarchy from a rural tribe of less than 3000 people in Laiagam to an aspiring enterpreneur and an agent of change and the private sector is my playground.

Don't think that I am happy with the results of this elections, the whole political system in PNG stinks. That includes Polye, Somare or any other politician for that matter. To me all of them are bunch of crooks who go in there with selfish ambitions. But when comparing them on a regional scale, Polye was one person who did had an impact on national politics. I don't know what will become of Polye in the future but I thought by reading on the papers, he was one Enga politician who did stand up for what is rightfully his on the floor of parliament whilst the rest of your Engan MPs used the media to raise what they should have raised on the floor of parliament. The people of Enga vote for leaders to represent them and speak for their rights on the floor of parliament, not on some paid newspaper or tv announcemnts and commentaries. That's the only thing I like about Polye for Kandep, Bob Danyana for Western Prov, Malcolm Kila for EHP etc. So it's not only Polye that I like but a group of MPS with that courage to stand up for their people on the floor of parliament traditionally dominated by a selested few from the coast.

Thus, when I said go to the courts....I meant that and in that I want to see justice being done and wrongs corrected regardless of whoever is on the receiving end. I am not on any individuals side and am sorry if you thougt I am on Polye's side. I believe anyone can make any comment or write on anything or topic but that does not necessarily mean that he/she is for or against that person or topic.

Thanyou for letting me know that some of you my fellow citizens are not happy with my comments. I will try my best not to do that again in the future.

Kind Regards

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Author:
Cool_Guy1
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Date Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2007, 10:08:55am

Mulimaip, point taken. Thanks for coming out and sheding light on your stand. I read through some of your threads and you do contribute meaningfully to this forum. Keep that mentality up.. i salute you for your humility..

Peace

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 01:01:47pm

sore stret ol anti-Polye.

He won...and now looking forward the Prime Minister's Post. So forget the fuck about all these. If NA is going invited by the GG to form the next gov, there is a party policy in NA that the Region that masters the number will have there R/Leader to take the PM seat. So what is it that we are grabling over here. As Mulimaipa said it, let justice prevail and stop being ironical and sacarstic to tarnish Don Ploye's by sitting behind screen. If you can't prove your allegations' facts, then wait for the next 5 yrs. Otherwise, this "firsttimer" is likely looking at the PM seat because he already had 3 NA members from Enga including himself.

Lets work for the betterment of the National growth then talking legalities and democracies when these very people were under close scrutiny by Don during his last term. And stop bringing in "family *bed*" problems into national and provincial politics.

Embania Kakoo Piaka leliamoo olo tagee kanda, piaka lao madegepa.

Peace out

skin diwai

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Chiko
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 01:20:08pm

Am sorry "Skin Diwai" - sounds like you and Don Polye belong to the Taliban tribe if you throw democracy out of the window!!!...Bush will be after your neck!!!

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 01:35:14pm

Bush takes undercovers. I give the the warning then blast the twin tower hours later. But, you can't get Bin laden when he goes to US to take his medication.

There you go....

REMEMBER! BUSH IS A DICTATOR AND BIN LADEN IS A FREEDOOM FIGHTER EXERCISING WHAT IS RIGHT! get drilled! and stop barking.

skin diwai

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Chiko
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 01:42:19pm

i defy to be dragged down to your level...your diwai skin smells...

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 02:01:17pm

Off course, you are being attracked to my spell.
Sapos yu man tru tru, get me on the battle ground (court and politics). Sapos yu wanpla dog (ino pik) nogat kiau, orait maski. nogut yu sotwin nating.

mi *sanapim* yu pinis olsem na yu laikim liklik bekim blo em.....eh ehe ehehehehehehehheheheheheheh

peace out
skin diwai

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Chiko
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 02:11:24pm

"when the good choose to do nothing, the bad continues to prosper" - justice will prevail...see you at the court of disputed returns...you'll realise next wk that the kandep open court of disputed returns will be the first filed after the return of writs.
we got enough resources to fight until the justice is seen to be done...we don't prey on people's resources like you and Don.

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 02:59:58pm

bring it on. mi koapim yupla pinis! sapos yupla laik bekim, em bai mipla wokim lo kot ples. long nau, pasim maus blo yupla na relax you bolls.....

yupla man turu turu em bai yupla winim don. Darama kandao ongo niakama kakoo piaka larae iki dae. dee mende nyakamame mende pigimae

skin diwai

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Chiko
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 03:06:25pm

hate talking wisdom to a fool like you...skin diwai...

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 03:25:30pm

ya, because you're decieving yourself thinking that your talking wise when in real time you talking craps! coz you can't do more or say more...least to say!helpless hape...
yu are like your liers themselves

peace out

skin diwai

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TapuMalo
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 03:51:22pm

Hi Skin Diwai,

I believe your language is offensive and is rather defensive in nature as if you have something to hide...If you are not guilty, the courts won't rule the opposite, you will come out clean.

The challenge with intellectuals is to supress our personal views and beliefs and disseminate information which can harmonise and unite Enga soeciety.

Kappa

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 05:08:38pm

well, check the chorus of the argument and who started it, Mr "TapuMalo, kaapa". Every writer is somewhat a defenesive writer on the points he/she believes, lol! And thats the fact. If you feel me language offensive, then, you are actually reading it literally, go get matured. Nothing under the sun was and is hidden.
"No one is guilty unless proven guilty" - I bet thats the common rule of law. So why are you figure pointing at Don's "controversal" win or as state "rigging win", when he is not guilty? Meaning, if you're successful in contesting a by-election and your cohorts win, Don is truly guilty. Otherwise, stop kneejerking because of Don's landslide win. Get your coconut working, rather then scratching the itches jerked by your age old bark.

peace out....


skin diwai

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TapuMalo
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2007, 05:40:08pm

Hi Skin Diwai,

Are you alright...or did you just came out of a psychatric ward? Looks like there is so much hot air in you and are taking every opportunity to gush it out. Sound as if you have missed out on a lot of action and frustrated....or are you rushing to go somewhere. Polye himself was humble in the article he put in the paper yesterday but you seem so pumped up ...who are you anyway? For you info I am not a Kandepen and I don't care what happens there because I have enough problems in my own electorate. I didn't challenge Polye's win in any part of my comment....read it again, maybe you misinterpreted me. I was just telling you that there are appropriate words to use to present your side of the story.

Kappa Kae

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skin diwai
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Date Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2007, 03:44:17pm

well, got to roll out bro!
When people can't understand the reality being presented at the very time the RO was arrested, people keep on complaining. Why should one comlain when everyone on the street knows that things are fishy, mate! Otherwise, we are all engans! thinking and writing like engans so nobody should complain about anything.

peace out

skin diwai

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