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Subject: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 04 2007, 11:19:32pm

Kaim Paeo, I do agree with you that it is time for genuine minds to come together. I have given my support to the elected MP for Lagaip Pogera electorate before and after the elections, and I remain committed. The truth is, I have always wave my hands up to help all Engan MPs and only Miki Kaeo came to me for help in the previous term. It is true that, its a glorious thing to be elect as a representative, but it is a different thing to perform as a MP, and many MPs have failed on the latter. I support Paeo strongly that, all educated professional from the electorate work together now to support our MP. Our elected MP needs our support to effectively spend the K10m plus.

Action points to start:
1. To start, we need to develop a database and register each individual's professional details and skills. Database to be at the disposal of Hon MP PK. I suggest Freddie and Steve work together to develop this database.

2. Freddie/Steve; create a yahoo forum where we use our given identities to communicate with fellow professional and keep working together. Yahoo Forum is for genuine professionals who are serious about the development of Lagaip Pogera electorate, and also to avoid unneccessary comments by dull scapers.

3. See if we can form like a consultative committee in which the member can seek help, assistance, directions, etc; from. Paeo, it seems you are at home (PNG) at the moment, liase with Steve to create this committee. But the call for registration should come first through a yahoo forum.

4. Suggest we meet in Laiagam quarterly in a year.

These are just suggestive points, think and work along these lines.

Every point in time, there has be ONLY one MP, therefore we all should be disciples if we want Lagaip Pogera (Enga) to develop. Again, 'Tomorrow (the future) is Today', live our dreams now. Lets start small in Lagaip Pogera first, if we change Lagaip Pogera then we can of course change Enga!!!!

Kaim Engan Lenge.

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Pro Engan
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 01:45:14am

This idea is very good. And I am grateful someone has come out to point this. But we must have this for all centers and not just the Lagaip Porgera area.

Pro Engan
(Wabag Central District)

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 03:06:03am

Enga Lenge

Kaim, I acknowledge and appreciate your proposition and enthusiasm for a better electorate! And I am willing to work with you on that. I am already arranging with Freddie to design and manage a website for Lagaip-Porgera on behalf of the MP. We will incorporate your ideas of a Forum and Database for Lagaip-Porgerans unto the webpage. I will speak to the MP about a consultative or "think-tank" committee that you have proposed. Unfortunately, bro Paeo is not based in PNG as he is one of our working professionals in Australia's mining sector. To discuss matters, we may have to be ingenuitive by seeking other means of communication (e.g. Lagaip-Porgera Forum Chat Zone or Conference Room via Viewcam) but I would really like to see us meet in the electorate at least once a year as you've suggested.

Currently, I am waiting and relying on Freddie's IT expertise to get this project on the air.

KLagaipT3
05.12.2007

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Miok Rutz
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 05:46:40am

Full support!!

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 09:05:34am

The proposition by Pro Engan to have a database of skilled people for the whole of Enga is a very good idea, however the Enga provincial government would need to buy into this idea and will have to manage it well and use it for it's intended purpose. There is no use having a database if it isn't going to be used.

Now back to the Lagaip Porgera electorate, I would like to acknowledge the comments by Engan Lenge to have a secure internet forum where people will have to log in with their true identity. For open and constructive discussions, I think that is the way to go, I am sure Freddie will work this one out.

It's good to see Steve has immediately taken this idea on board and is working with Freddie to get the database developed. While on that we must not loss focus on why we need to develop the database. It will be a source of information for the MP to request assistance when required from skilled people from the electorate. Now this is the catch, the services rendered should be on a voluntary bases. A small amount of monetary payment can be provided to the person providing the services, but will only be a form of appreciation for the free services that would be provided for the love of our people.

I used this illustration to explain to TapuMalo once when I caugth up with him in Sydney, so I'll probably do it again here, Because he is one of the district's Economics graduates who will be graduating with a maters soon, If the member for Lagaip Porgera asks him to write up a project proposal for an AusAID funded project for the district and if it did get through for funding, the electorate should probably reward him with some financial incentive. The important thing is, he has contributed towards the development of the district and for that he should be happy and satisfied. This is translating your skill to benefit your people. I suppose with 10 million Kina, not everything will get implemented but atleast the brains from the district can be utelised well to spread this money effectively with maximum benefit for the people.

Unfortunately, I am not in the country to organise a meeting of such but I am sure the MPs office will be able to put out a notice for all professionals/trades people from the district to get together. Steve, I think this needs alot of planning and organsisation so hopefully the services of the UPNG students from the district is needed here to arrange the first meeting. Can you liase with the MPs office to further progress this?

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[> Subject: You ask too much, but I will ask through PK@!


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 09:28:04am

Dear Paeo

I will attempt to reach our MPs through my Dad (Lagaip/Porgera Member). I do believe I am the first citizen to have an MP for a father to address our matters on this Forum. For my love of you all and this Forum and Freddie, however, I will represent you on such matters to get issues addressed for our electorate and province!

All I ask is, your support!!

Stephen P. Kikala
On Behalf of the Office of the Lagaip/Porgera MP

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 11:16:37am

Steve,

Fortunately for us and unfortuantely for you (maybe), you happen to be the link for us to the MP's office right now. I hope you don't mind us asking you for representation.

I suppose the suggestions that have come up through this forum are for the good of our district and even so for the continued representation by PK beyond 2012.

Lets try and get the ball rolling now by developing that database.

Cheers
Paeo

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
NARO
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 01:54:12pm

Fantastic start. This is where we have to start from instead of being on the other side of the river and shouting bla bla. PK is our legitimate MP and we have respect that no matter what! All PK needs is our support to bring tangible developments to our tribal-striken district.

We are indeed blessed to have Steve in this forum who will greatly influence our MP on any idea that we may propose.

I can assist Freddie and Steve with the database.

Cheers!
NARO

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 03:02:01pm

Naro,

Good initiative shown here, I suppose you should try to get in touch with Steve and Freddie to discuss on "The Way Foward" for this.

I could forward you Freddie and Steve's email address if you want to get in touch with them. (i.e if you don't have them) Just sent me an email on my email address shown.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 09:49:25pm

Kaimis,
I'm impressed with your positive responses and looking forward to working with you all for the development of Lagaip Pogera and Enga as a whole. I've said it on this forum to establish a 'thinktank' for Enga where the Provincial Government could buy in expert assistance from engan professionals, but that never materialised. I believe it is a good idea to work small in electorates first, and I would suggest the other electorates should do the same. I see all Engan leaders are capable of supporting such ideas; we should not wait, rather organise ourselves and tell them we are ready to support.

Steve, it is a priviledge to have you as being the son of our MP and being an open minded professional yourself. It is a rare opportunity and we will work together for the benefit of Lagaip Pogera. I suggest you, Freddie and NARO communicate between yourselves to establish that Yahoo forum first, if the Webpage of Lagaip Pogera is going to take any longer. Also establish the 'Fields' you would require for the database, possibly in MS Office Access, and let us know.

Yes!! It is about time for Engans to work together, Enga is so unique and is different from other provinces of PNG with different languages and cultural barriers. I believe strongly that Engans can come together to build Enga, ONLY if we humble ourselves and work with our leaders.

'Remember God rewards the honest and the faithful.'

Paeo, sorry for my misunderstanding, thinking you were home (PNG). I will be in touch with you shortly through email.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 05 2007, 11:14:11pm

Kaims,

It is obvious the proposition we have agreed upon is going to be take some effort to put together. Considering many of us being pretty tied up with work commitment at this stage, Naro's commitment to help in this regard would surely help. I suppose even before fully developing that database, we can still go ahead to collect the primary data with Naro's assistance.

Naro, it might be a good idea to create a yahoo email address where people can write in to pass on their personal details.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
DA
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 06 2007, 04:38:55pm

Guys, well done. This is not a new idea. Enga Administration and Governors office tried in the mid 90's but failed. Thats at the bigger scale, lets try it for Laigaip Porgera.

Suggest you put up a adv on national or PC and collect updated CV with a id size photo, their field of expertees, etc.

I actually developed one for Wabag but things never worked out for me so all the best... Guys, good initiative for a better tomorrow so full support...Go for it. Leave politics to the politicians as the country needs us the professionals to shape up the country.. ALL THE BEST, GUYS.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 06 2007, 10:01:31pm

DA,

It's good to know that someone else has traveled down that path already and has failed. If you can afford to spare some time, are you able to detail those failures so we don't make those same mistakes again. Also, I'd be interested to know what sort of response you got when this initiative kicked off and what were some of the positives you got from this exercise. We never say a failure is a deterant, I always like to think that failing actually strengths peoples character to try harder so we should learn from your experiance and implement this plan with more vigour.

Steve, Freddie and Naro, trying to tee up this thing with work and study commitment will be difficult but if you guys are able to commit a bit of your time to set up something for dicussion, we'd really appreciate that. Keep us informed if you do need help in other areas.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


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DA
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Date Posted: Fri, Dec 07 2007, 04:27:14pm

Paeo, If there were any learnings from the first ever attempt by Talyaga and Ipatas in the 90's, I believe they were;
1. Ownership of the process by respective MP's
2. No positive feedback from professionals - maybe due to political differences
3. No clear or precise objectives on how what projects, etc. these Engan professionals were to be engaged in
4. Resources - No appointment of officers to drive the initiative
5. others incl. no acknowledgement and followup correspondence to appreciate partnership of the process being developed.

Per my earlier note, suggest you do an adv on the PNG media papers and assess the responses and encourage the MP and his office to take ownership. I guess, Stephen has already sold the idea to his dad so go for it... I see, you guys are keen and geared up to fastrack the progress so go for it guys... BOLA. I'l ask the MP if I do bump into him in POM, end of this month...

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[> [> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 10 2007, 12:25:19pm

DA,

The areas you have identified for the previous excercises failure are noted. I beleive any new effort to engage the skilled people from the district or province for that matter will be seen by all interested party to be for the progress of our province.

Now I may be speaking for myself here but I believe that those of us that do want to help out should not expect anything from the MP. I suppose the MP should be asked to provide logistical support to the team to collect information or carry out feasibility studies or to conduct a survey. If we are serious about changing our district's image, it will surely need the efforts of the concerned at minimal cost to the District. I am sure many will put their hands up for the sake of our people back in the villages.

Naro, Steve and Freddie, are we still going ahead with the database that we said we should develop? I believe a proper database will be time consuming to develop so I was wondering if a excel database would be the way to go for now.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 10 2007, 09:45:53pm

Paeo

Kaim, sorry I hadn't noticed your message earlier. I'm currently waiting on Freddie to send me his particulars before I forward them to the Office of the MP. I intend to have Freddie as our main webpage producer and manager for www.lagaip-porgera.net

I'm sure he is more than able to compile and produce the database, while we should play the role of relaying to him the data and information required of skilled Lagaip-Porgerans.

Do not worry! We'll get this project initiated once Freddie has forwarded me his details and payment has been made. Bye the way, the MP will be in Tokyo this week to see my Pyrethrum Developer, so I will communicate to him verbally all that we have discussed. So Freddie, it would be good if you have your particulars e-mailed ASAP.

KLagaipT3
10.12.2007

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Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 04:01:52pm

Steve,

Thanks for the update, let us know when it's all sorted out.

In the meantime, I have created a yahoo email account for people to write to with their details so that we start collecting the primary information. All skilled people from the district and Enga for that matter who want's to contribute in any way can write to this email address lagaip.porgera@yahoo.com and pass on your details. I have made up a simple excel speadsheet for this so I will email the spreadsheet if you sent an email to this address.

Freddie can get the information off from this database and refine it to creat that webpage for the district and all the other information on the skilled resources pool.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


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NARO
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 06:07:55pm

Paeo, Steve and the rest...my apology for the delay in responding. I have been away and logged in now. Since Freddie is assisting with the database as per Steve's posting, I can provide back-up support. I will relay the message to professionals from our Electorate here in Melbourne, Australia and forward to Freddie and cc to Steve.

You all have a top week and take care.

God Bless!
NARO

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera - Forum Rules


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 07:42:25pm

Kaimis,
It seems Paeo has already created the Yahoo Forum, I suggest we all go for it and start the forum and send personal details to him (Paeo). Paeo, I suggest you be the interim Moderator for the forum now and we will send all the personal details to you.

Now in regard to communication within the Lagaip-Pogera forum, it has to be guided by Forum Rules for us all to comply to. We can talk about what can be done to rule violators later, but here some of my suggestive Forum Rules:

RULES FOR Lagaip-Pogera Electorate Forum:

Lagaip-Pogera is a discussion forum for Professionals and
friends of the Lagaip-Pogera to support development in the Electrorate.

1. Issues must be Lagaip-Pogera related.
2. Refrain from opinions that do not add value to discussions
3. Refrain from subjective criticism
4. Discuss with objectivity and diplomacy
5. No obscenity or foul language
6. No junk email allowed in the forum.

Paeo, I suggest you add these rules as footing of each new email created.

Engan Lenge.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera - Forum Rules


Author:
Fiikz
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Date Posted: Mon, May 26 2008, 08:57:38pm

Hi,
I wana share somethings about PORGERA!
The main thing is about the District Administrator in Porgera..
Before I go o I want to who was the Best D.A in Porgera ever?

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 11 2007, 10:30:35pm

Kaims

I just came home after finding out about details of the MP's visit to Tokyo with the Pyrethrum Developer. Evidently, they have a schedule for him that should take up much of his time here in Japan such as siteseeing of pyrethrum and vegetable plants, roundtable negotiations on the project bid, and seminars on long-term marketing, sales and production output.

Yes, my brethrens, I applaud you all for your selfless act of contributing to a skills database for Lagaip-Porgerans, and other Engans provided the opportunities available. Meanwhile, I would encourage all Lagaip-Porgerans and enthusiastic Engans to supply their skill informations through Paeo's initiated e-mail (lagaip.porgera@yahoo.com) for the compilation of personnel datas and information. Welcome aboard NARO, also! I commend and appreciate all of you for your undying support to see our electorate and province experience change and prosper in the next 5 years. (Now that the Power is in our hands, we can try to do as much as possible.)

Also, I do thank you all for your enterprising ideas, experiences and suggestions towards having our vision of universal employment realized within our electorate and province! Remember, this database will have to be a long-termed project as employment does not skyrocket overnight. Creating a viable industry (agriculture) and accomodating human resources into that sector should be priority number 1, before we can generate returns to sustain more technical jobs. However for the current projects (e.g. pyrethrum factory, electricity plant, Laiagam High School), we will employ has many technical human capital possible for the short and long-term. This enterprise will initially require a skeletal but "efficient" workforce within a year of data accumulation and careful selection from our database! But employment should pick up as economic conditions improve. We must be strategic in our visions and approach towards universal employment. I am glad to inform you the MP has a team of young professionals who are economics and even engineering graduates. E-publicizing and developing a skills database can even do more for employment of our human resources in other technical trades (e.g. heavy diesel mechanics).

Currently, as I have informed you all, I am waiting on Freddie to get this all-purpose website in the air. I will even pressurize the MP to advise Sir Michael on more freer and open market operations of the telecommunications sector in PNG. Telikom needs some serious competition, considering the low access to Internet services due to the current monopoly forcing prices up for expensive, outdated technologies in use (e.g. analog dial-up internet). At a national policy level, I see telecommunications has a vital link to agriculture development. The current political support for Telikom's monopoly will affect the intellegience and productivity of households (i.e. businesses, academic institutions, and small-scale, rural entrepreneurs).

Sincere regards.

KLagaipT3
11.12.2007

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 12 2007, 09:23:30pm

Kaims,

I have forwarded an excel spreadsheet to some of you whose email address I have for this proposed database so you may have seen it. Anyone else out there who wants to pass on your details can write to lagaip.porgera@yahoo.com and I will try to email the spread sheet for you to add your details.

We will try to circulate it to as many people as we can. I understand not everyone may be interested but those that are keen to see real development at the electoral level should write in and let us know of your details.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 18 2007, 10:29:29am

Further to my earlier posting, there has been alot of positive feedback from many of our skilled people from Lagaip Porgera and other districts as well. Some of you may have seen the spreadsheet that has been circulated around for the skilled people to populate. If you are from the electorate and want to contribute towards developmental initiatives or want to put a proposal together for the MP to take it on board, pls sent an email to lagaip.porgera@yahoo.com and the spreadsheet shall be emailed to you.

Let's all work together to see some changes in our electorate, enough of politics.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
SB
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 18 2007, 12:21:49pm

Good work guys, it is indeed a major step forward since no past MP has recognised the biggest resource he had, "Professionals" who could only be too happy to help out when asked by an MP. It would be an honour to serve him. I will sent my details through the yahoo address.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


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tony
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Date Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 12:00:03pm

Guys, believe this project was taken off line for further development by the interested party from Laiagam.

Please advise progress or your success story for the other electorates benefit...

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[> [> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


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NARO
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Date Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 01:18:01pm

Hi Tony...be assured that we will keep you posted on this forum.

Cheers!

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[> [> Subject: DEVELOPMENTS


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Thu, May 22 2008, 10:45:59am

Thanks NARO!

I just got back from PNG after a brief visit to Laiagam (April 24 - May 21). For those of you who have kept abreast of the news online, K5million was approved for Lagaip-Porgera and 3 other electorates. The other constituencies (including other Engan electorates) have yet to receive theirs due to their incompetence or delay to submit budgetary and planning documents via the set procedures and guidelines.

My motto for Lagaip-Porgera is that "America is an abstact". It is not what we watch on TV but is a symbol of prosperity and lies soley in the very palm of our hands"! When the people are empowered through through the facilitation of an industry by which they can make a simple and comfortable living, then can we say America is already here. The MP's office is not "big name or status" but it represents "people's lives". I have been in Laiagam and the people are hungry for one thing; to make a living and get out of this cycle of poverty and death trap. How are we going to do it??? (Here's a few tips and one strategical development.)

HYDROELECTRICITY POWER PLANT

Beginning yesterday (May 21st) the 2 papers (The National & Post Courier) have put out an Open Tender by the Lagaip Porgera Joint District & Budget Priorities Committee and through the Supply Tenders Board.
[Invited tenders are asked to Design, Supply, and Install a 400 Kilowatt Micro-Hydro Electrical Turbine together with all associated Civil, Hydraulic, Mechanical, Structural & Electrical Works required to deliver Electrical Energy. The Turbine will be installed on the Aiyo River, at Aiyak Primary School, and will provide both High and Medium Voltage Transmission Services to the Existing Laiagam Diesel Generation Power House.] Tender Documents, providing Scope of Works, and a list of Schedules may be collected from: Central Supply & Tenders Board, Head Office 1st Floor, Westpac Bank, Waigani Drive NCD, Papua New Guinea.

A K100 non refundable fee shall be paid at the time of collection of the documents - payable by Bank Cheque to the NATIONAL SUPPLY & TENDERS BOARD. Tenders close at 10am on Monday the 2nd of June 2008. Late submissions will not be accepted. For further information contact: The Secretary, Central Supply and Tenders Board. Phone (675) 3113777. Facsimile 3113778. E-mail: info@cstb.gov.pg
All bids must be submitted in sealed envelopes and Clearly marked with the tender number (LAGAIP - 001/2008) to:
The Chairman
Central Supply & Tenders Board
Head Office 1st Floor
Westpac Bank
Waigani Drive
NCD
Papua New Guinea

(Any of our Engan technical advisers are welcomed to suggest credible tenderers that may be of significant contribution to our electorate. No wantok system because we seek utmost efficiency and commitment considering the limited timeframe.)

We need electricity first before we can establish a pyrethrum factory which will utilize huge bulks of energy to process raw pyrethrum from producers throughout the ENTIRITY of LAGAIP-PORGERA. Furthermore, it will be an alternate source of electricity for household residents throughout Laiagam.

The Member has been in the Tasmania (Australia) to arrange for an Australian pyrethrum-producing company (Botanical Resources Australia Pty. Ltd) to manage, market, and produce our pyrethrum (i.e. establishment of factory, crop-growing education & awareness, cash vouchers in exchange for fertilizers and seedlings), etc.) Through the Member, I appreciate now the role an MP plays. God grants people the wisdom, but you also need the knowledge, network and bureaucratic experience to create that vital link between the LOCAL SELLER & the INTERNATIONAL BUYER. Before I spill more beans, let me mention other critical issues.

Firstly, funds are moving slowly through the Ministries of Finance and Treasury. That is why alot of MPs will suffer if they do not have the internal experience and network as the Lagaip-Porgera MP. My electorate is advantaged at that. Secondly, the MP has already budgeted for a 4-year website (www.lagaip-Porgera.com) which will be managed by Freddie. Unfortunately, it has to be 4 years instead of 5 due to the delays of the two mentioned ministries of government. The Member has already appointed a young computer scientist from the UPNG to install computers, facilitate internet connection, and publicize relevant press information on world wide web for the Parliamentary Office of Lagaip-Porgera. He (Robert) will be Freddie's web liaison. Thirdly, as I will return to Enga (after my PhD) in September, the MP will organize a meeting with our intellects during the Christmas holidays (2008) to discuss critical issues affecting our electorate. Simultaneously we will have a group of university graduates from our electorate to campaign vigorously for the cause of HIV/AIDS and tribal fight. I will personally monitor and manage this during the 2-week break I am given off work.

The main problem for the PK and other MPs is a delay of funds and it seems the two ministries and departments are passing the buck. But not to worry, we will try to have the internal issues identified and ironed out.

"THE POWER IS IN OUR HANDS, LADIES & GENTLEMEN!"

Stephen P. Kikala
Tokyo, JP

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: DEVELOPMENTS


Author:
nmenda
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Date Posted: Thu, May 22 2008, 11:00:35pm

Wow! guys job well done. Enga desperate need such a collaborative ideas for better future for engans. this is very impressive and innovative strategy to implement and I wish my district the same.

Great.

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
Liane Pore
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Date Posted: Fri, Nov 14 2008, 11:28:10pm

Friends,

I read the other thread about a possible Engan thick tank and was wondering if there has been any progress on this???

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[> Subject: Steve & Freddie , any latest update on this?


Author:
Paeo
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Date Posted: Sun, Nov 30 2008, 04:46:23pm

Hi Liane Pore,

I must admit we haven't progressed much on getting the initiative off the ground due to our geograhical locations and work commitments. While I did manage to collect many names of professionals/trades people and their contact details, we haven't uploaded this information to the web site as it is still being developed at this stage. Freddie and Steve should have some information on the latest developments.

Kaims how did we go with the development of the Web site?

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[> Subject: Re: Professional database for Lagaip Pogera


Author:
tony
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 01 2008, 11:26:49am

This concept is a day away from the born day (02-12-07) guys wanbel stap... We are all busy in our little world but tingim haus lain? Otherwise, DA said it all, it has been tried????.

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