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Date Posted: 10:07:48 10/05/02 Sat
Author: Chani
Author Host/IP: curie.noos.net / 212.198.0.93
Subject: Wake up Love's bitches! Recommendations for thez new session!

I've just read this one, very sad...Called "Regrets"

http://spuffyonline.com/bscentral/stories.php?caid=3&sid=845&cid=4021


If you want some joy, read "Double Spiked"!

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[> Hi Chani! -- Leatrix, 17:23:42 10/05/02 Sat (httpproxy.clear.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

You beat me too it!

Ok ladies - are we going to go with "Double Spiked" for our recommendation for this session? This is no longer on FF.net, so does someone have an alternative site to view it, if you haven't already read it? I do have it as a word document, if it is otherwise unavailable.

Chani - as per the e-mail, I would be keen to keep "Regrets" for the next session? As it would be a good follow-up to "Double Spiked".

Let me know what you all think - as time is starting to tick away.

Cheers


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[> [> Double Spiked! Alternative site... -- Chani, 05:31:34 10/06/02 Sun (curie.noos.net/212.198.0.93)

You can read it here:

http://spuffyonline.com/bscentral/stories.php?caid=1&sid=624

I am ok for Doule Spiked of course, hey remember i found it and recommended it the first time before it was complete!

But can we only suggest a NC-17 rated fanfic? Some readers in our club are very young...Am i wrong?


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[> O.K, here's one!! Oh...or two. -- treacle antlers, 12:32:39 10/06/02 Sun (host62-6-71-157.in-addr.btopenworld.com/62.6.71.157)

The first is 'What She Deserves' by Herself. By far the best Post-Grave fic I read this summer, this is also one of the very few that have ever reduced me to tears. Beautiful, sensitive writing, totally believeable and quite spell-binding. Anyway, it can be found in Herself's section at http://www.buggerthis.net/ Enjoy, and bring hankies.

The second is a short story called 'Reasons' by zero. Just fantastic characterisations and great snarky, funny Spike. Some of the best Spike/Buffy dialogue I've ever read:

Number seven," he said, "should be kissing." His
voice was the soft, intimate murmur used by people sharing air, and then not even that stood between them as he closed the distance to demonstrate why kissing alone was worth living for.
"Maybe," he amended, when he'd finally drawn back, "you should make that 'kissing with tongue'. Pays to be specific."

It's here at: http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=435369

That's all folks.


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[> [> Ummm..am I allowed to rec two? -- treacle antlers, 13:00:05 10/06/02 Sun (host213-122-45-57.in-addr.btopenworld.com/213.122.45.57)

Should I have read the rules again first?


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[> Well.. if we choose something that's nc17 then we have to make sure it doesn't -- ancientpeas, 16:44:24 10/06/02 Sun (209-195-66-108.c1.ac17.otton2.isp.cyberus.ca/209.195.66.108)

vanish on the 12th, right?


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[> I may be a Love's Bitch... -- ScarletNicky, 19:00:42 10/06/02 Sun (cache-mtc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/64.12.96.79)

...but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

Okay, I have a recommendation. It's "Love is Blind" by Avalon. The link is: www.allaboutspike.com/fic/048.html

It's so powerful that I've had to read it over and over during the last year or so since I first found it. Very angsty and I think truly shows the depth of Spike's devotion to Buffy. One or two chapters are NC-17, but it's not on ff.net, so it won't be going anywhere.

One drawback: it does steal a major plot idea from Angel's "The Trial" episode, but this story far exceeds that episode.

Check it out and see what you think. Some of you may have already read it, since it is 5th Season. I will check out the ones mentioned above. I've been so busy writing my own that I haven't read any of them yet.

ScarletNicky


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[> [> JSlayer is the queen ot the orgy..hehe.. -- ancientpeas, 08:27:16 10/07/02 Mon (209-195-66-64.c0.ac17.otton2.isp.cyberus.ca/209.195.66.64)

But let's ask her.. are you okay reading NC-17 stuff, Sweetie?

BTW, it might not just be a question of age..some people don't like smut..I know that that is hard to believe but it's true..

I'm cool with either Double Spiked or What she deserves (neither of which I've read). The one about Buffy being blind kind of worries me.. I'll read it but I'm not sure if I'll like it..


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[> [> [> Give it a shot -- ScarletNicky, 01:04:31 10/08/02 Tue (cache-dm07.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.75)

I will admit it takes a few chapters to really get into, but I think the payoff is worth it.


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[> Ok - as there are more recommendations (longish admin post) -- Leatrix, 19:29:27 10/06/02 Sun (httpproxy.clear.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

I'm going to set some ground rules for this session, based on experiences from the last session.

RE the NC-17 question and do we need to find something that is not NC-17 for those younger. The youngest member of the group is JSlayerUK, who I believe is 16, (you are welcome to correct me if you like, or if there is anyone younger). From what I can tell, she is more than mature enough to cope with NC-17, as it was her that suggested "Double Spiked" for the month of September. (And a damn good choice as well!)

We can only put one story forward, regardless of rating, as realistically there isn't enough time for all members of the club to read 2 recommendations from each group. So the issue of choosing an NC-17 plus a PG or R rated story is dead. Whatever comes out top in the voting for the group will be the story put forward - regardless of the rating.

Last session we chose from 5 stories and took a vote on which one should go forward. Due to the time constraints set by Oz and Kat for this session, I suggest that we cut the recommended stories down to *3*, as not everyone can spend a lot of time online.

Therefore, I propose that the 3 stories to choose from for this session are:

*Double Spiked - http://spuffyonline.com/bscentral/stories.php?caid=1&sid=624

*What She Deserves - http://www.buggerthis.net/ (This is under the Herself section).

*Love is Blind - www.allaboutspike.com/fic/048.html

Ok - what gets chosen is determined by your votes. Last session there were a lot of recommendations, but when it came time to vote, the response was very muted. So if you want something to be the group choice - VOTE!

Send me your votes and I'll collate them up and decide from there which one will be the group recommended fic.

Ok - any questions/problems, drop me a line.

Cheers


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[> [> Bloody Hell! -- JSlayerUK, 15:22:13 10/07/02 Mon (cache-loh-ac06.proxy.aol.com/195.93.34.12)

I'm the youngest? No way!

Actually, come to think about it, I shouldn't be that surprised. But heck, it doesn't matter to me whatsoever. Hell, Double Spiked was the first thing I recommended. Plus I'm in England, and 17 in 3 months anyway...

And of course, I'm voting DoubleSpiked.

And I STILL can't believe I'm the youngest... Great. Now I feel little.


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[> [> [> If it makes you feel better... -- Leatrix, 03:58:20 10/08/02 Tue (httpproxy.clear.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

You are half my age.

Although sometimes I forget I'm supposed to be that old and act much younger!!


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[> [> [> [> Nope. Still feeling little. -- JSlayerUK, 17:14:23 10/08/02 Tue (cache-loh-af06.proxy.aol.com/195.93.50.12)

Well, nice to know that I'm still holding my own around here despite the lack of years.


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[> [> [> [> [> You shouldn't feel little... -- Leatrix, 04:51:58 10/09/02 Wed (netcache2-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

Age is only a number, and a shoe size. Very little else is relevant. ;-)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Well said. -- JSlayerUK, 16:35:14 10/09/02 Wed (cache-loh-af06.proxy.aol.com/195.93.50.12)

Doesn't help though. Still the youngest Spuffist. Is that a bad thing? Does it imply that Spuffy is a relationship admired by mature people? Hmm... this would be an interesting idea for an investigation. Is there a relationship between pairings and age? Right.... now I've gone off in the deep end!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Nah - I think we are just... -- Leatrix, 03:57:59 10/10/02 Thu (netcache2-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

Romantic types who like a bit of rough and tumble with their slap and tickle!


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[> We sure are 1st out of the starting gate!!! -- treacle antlers, 04:55:14 10/07/02 Mon (host213-122-56-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com/213.122.56.122)

...and I'm voting for 'What She Deserves'!


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[> Hi BSers! -- arch nemesisises, 10:43:04 10/07/02 Mon (NoHost/12.110.196.130)

I'm going to read everything that was suggested now and I promise to vote :)


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[> Ok "Double Spiked" me : ) -- Chani * a woman can dream *, 14:32:08 10/08/02 Tue (curie.noos.net/212.198.0.93)


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[> I choose... -- Kaylorin, 16:20:04 10/08/02 Tue (pcp632159pcs.newhvn01.in.comcast.net/68.53.200.184)

Kaylorin Double Spiked, then I can claim that I HAVE to red it for Club reasons. LoL


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[> Ok - Time is ticking... -- Leatrix, 04:49:35 10/09/02 Wed (netcache2-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

Hi

Those of you who haven't yet sent me an e-mail or posted your choice to the board, can you please do so in the next couple of days, so I can tally the votes.

Ciao


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[> [> O.K...I vote -- teabiscuit, 05:26:30 10/09/02 Wed (81-5-139-97.dsl.eclipse.net.uk/81.5.139.97)

I vote 'what She Deserves'...but can I also nominate Treacle Antler's 'Clearance' for another session? I'm not just sucking up to a fellow B/Ser treacle, I promise! I really loved it!! Anyone who hasn't read it: http://spuffyonline.com/bscentral/stories.php?caid=1&sid=65


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[> Now this is a tough -- arch nemesisises, 10:57:31 10/09/02 Wed (NoHost/12.110.196.130)

I liked both stories. Double Spiked was yummy, but think I have to go with "What She Deserves"


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[> Re: Wake up Love's bitches! Recommendations for thez new session! -- ancientpeas, 13:57:46 10/09/02 Wed (209-195-84-128.ac3.otton2.isp.cyberus.ca/209.195.84.128)

I think I'll vote for what she deserves and double spiked for next week..hehe.. can we do it that way?


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[> Thanks teabiscuit!! -- treacle antlers, 14:15:27 10/09/02 Wed (host213-122-133-129.in-addr.btopenworld.com/213.122.133.129)

You warmed the widdle cockles of my heart. So...when do we start the discussion thang?


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[> Due to my moving.. -- ancientpeas, 11:31:17 10/10/02 Thu (209-195-85-67.ac12.otton2.isp.cyberus.ca/209.195.86.67)

I went ahead and read Double Spiked and What she deserves.. so I will be ready to post my review of either when it's the right time.


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[> [> I liked -- ancientpeas, 18:48:35 10/11/02 Fri (209-195-66-35.c0.ac17.otton2.isp.cyberus.ca/209.195.66.35)

both..but for different reasons.. What she deserved was good.. It made me feel teary..

Double Spiked was more happy.. and very, very smutty..

I would be please if we choose either..if it's love is blind I might not be able to get it read in time for the reviews..


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[> ACK!!! -- morgain *leaves town for a bit and finds the world changed*, 00:18:50 10/11/02 Fri (NoHost/66.130.234.139)

Hi all!
Sorry I have been out of touch. I was in Alexandria, VA working from 8:30 am till 9:00 pm, with no easy access to the Internet.

I will check out "What She Deserves", and send in my vote tomorrow. I was not overly impressed with the quality of "Double Spiked" in terms of writing; good smut though.


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[> Voting for this month is very close... -- Leatrix, 03:48:52 10/11/02 Fri (httpproxy.clear.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

So to avoid a deadlock - could those of you, who have not voted yet, either post to the board or send me an e-mail with your choice.

Cheers


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[> My vote -- ScarletNicky, 08:40:44 10/11/02 Fri (NoHost/130.127.13.220)

It's a very tough choice. After reading them all, I still believe "Love is Blind" to be the strongest story, but "What She Deserves" is certainly the most timely.

I liked "Double Spiked," but I think its appeal will be lost on anyone outside of B/S 'shippers, since ability to enjoy it depends so heavily on how much you like reading Spuffy sex scenes.

I'm voting for "What She Deserves." It presents a strong, compassionate, likable Buffy, and I think would have the most appeal for readers from the other groups.


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[> [> I second that, Chani and Leatrix!! -- morgain, 11:40:32 10/11/02 Fri (NoHost/66.130.234.139)

Due to time constraints, I don't think I will be able to finish "Love is Blind", but I thoroughly agree with ScarletNicky that in terms of appreciation of B/S for other shippers and non-shippers, "What She Deserves" far outweighs "Double Spiked".

In writing is

So, my vote goes to that story by Herself.


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[> [> [> Part of my message disappeared.... -- morgain, 11:44:40 10/11/02 Fri (NoHost/66.130.234.139)

In addition, I think the writing in Herself's story is of higher quality, and I like the characterization of Buffy better [she comes off ditzy to me in "Double Spiked"]. As well, I think her Spike reveals what many fans think this character's motivation is and depth of his remorse about the AR and his feelings for Buffy.


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[> [> Maybe but "Double Spiked" is a very joyful story -- Chani, 05:08:47 10/12/02 Sat (curie.noos.net/212.198.0.93)

B/S fanfic usually are mostly angsty...I enjoyed the originality of "Double Spiked"!


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[> Last chance for voting!!! -- Leatrix, 03:34:23 10/12/02 Sat (httpproxy.clear.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

I'll will be tallying the votes tomorrow. Can those people who have not yet voted, please get them in asap.

If I haven't received notification by tomorrow - sorry your vote won't count for this month.

So, if you haven't chosen yet - make your choice now!


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[> AND the winner is... -- Leatrix, 05:37:05 10/13/02 Sun (httpproxy.clear.net.nz/203.97.2.243)

For this month - the B/S group will be recommending:

*What She Deserves - http://www.buggerthis.net/

For those who were wondering when the discussion will start - this will happen when Oz and Kat get *all* the stories in.

Cheers


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