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Date Posted: 11:24:25 07/27/02 Sat
Author: tweedisgood
Author Host/IP: inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com / 62.252.64.6
Subject: Starting a thread here for B/Gers: please could that group read this?

Owing to time zone differences may I appeal to fellow members of the B/G group to post here instead of messaging. If you could just check in, maybe with a fic suggestion or two, over the next couple of days? There are only a few of us so it shouldn't be too unwieldy.

I vote for Yahtzee's excellent fic "Destination Unknown"
http://www.thechicagoloop.net/yahtzee

Alternatively JK Philips' "Death Brings Clarity". URL when I've checked it but it's at buffygiles.com archive.

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[> Re: Starting a thread here for B/Gers: please could that group read this? -- Doe, 15:01:49 07/27/02 Sat (proxy.ia3.marketscore.com/66.119.33.135)

My suggestions are "The Power of Friends" by Rari Coss and "A Mile in His Moccasins" by Gileswench. Both are found at The List
http://www.dwordslist.net


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[> [> Re: Starting a thread here for B/Gers: please could that group read this? -- tweedisgood, 17:00:39 07/27/02 Sat (inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com/62.252.64.6)

Ah Rari! Perhaps I should declare an interest as she's my beta reader...
Actually I find the Roger and Paul universe too A/U for mainstream tastes. How about "Watchers' Retreat"?
"A Mile in..".was great writing but the cross-gender thing creeped me personally - a testament to Wenchie's skills, but I think other shippers would find it very outre.
Should we go NC17 to start with or let them in gently?
Forgot to mention Gail Christison: we should consider one of hers: maybe "Wounds" as that is relatively low rated (PG 13 or so)
I'm sure you know her site, but it's at
http://www.wickedsky.com/oncemore


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[> Re: Starting a thread here for B/Gers: please could that group read this? -- Coral Cat, 20:04:04 07/27/02 Sat (user-33qtolk.dialup.mindspring.com/199.174.226.180)

Yahtzee's fic is getting positive reviews from posters on the Television Without Pity BtVS fanfic forum, some of whom profess to B/G allergies.

I'm way behind in my fanfic reading, so I may just play catch-up here a bit with some of youall's recommendations.

I'm thinking PG, PG13. Although the potentially squicked will probably opt out on B/G anyway.

I like the idea of a regular B/G writer as the first rec, however.


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[> Re: Starting a thread here for B/Gers: please could that group read this? -- Doe, 22:15:22 07/27/02 Sat (proxy.ord.marketscore.com/64.0.99.137)

"Wounds" is a good choice. I forgot to mention "Single White Slayer" by Gileswench and "Beauty" by Lily2332. Both are at buffygiles.com


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[> [> Re: Starting a thread here for B/Gers: please could that group read this? -- tweedisgood, 17:43:24 07/28/02 Sun (inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com/62.252.64.6)

Not "Beauty" I think. Too OTT on the angst.Also with the Olivia bashing: bashing canon partners of the pair you want together is a fic no-no in my book.
Single White Slayer is good tho'.
Still rooting for Yahtzee, because she tackles the old "father figure" chestnut head on.


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[> Checking in with some quick thoughts -- Missy, 19:11:50 07/28/02 Sun (h24-76-95-3.vc.shawcable.net/24.76.95.3)

I'm still playing catch-up on my fanfic reading, but here are some quick thoughts on what I think we should be aiming for in our first selection (much of which has already been brought up):
-I'd like something as close to canon and the show as possible as opposed to AU, just because it sets the ship somewhere that people are already familiar with (and since we don't have the most popular ship, why give people too much new stuff to deal with)
-I'd also like to keep it post-highschool because I think we all saw the stuff that came up on the boards a month or two ago surrounding a Dawn/Spike ship

Can't think of anything else at the moment. Off to do more reading. I just finished "Destination Unknown," which I quite liked, and I'll check back in a couple of days; possibly with a rec or two.


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[> [> Re: Checking in with some quick thoughts -- tweedisgood, 19:25:39 07/28/02 Sun (inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com/62.252.64.6)

Totally agree on the keep it out of High School. I prefer those anyway, making an exception only for Anne Manley Haight because of her great background reasons and characterisation. Although I love it I can't rec e.g. Autumnal Equinox as a fic to share: Buffy's only 17 (which is legal in England) and it's pretty much wall to wall sex for several chapters
Also on the close to canon. A/U is fun but as you say we need to keep the unfamiliar to a minimum.


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[> I'm down with the Gail Christinson recs.... -- Denorios, 15:22:32 07/29/02 Mon (webcacheB04a.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.168.166)

And Yahtzee's stuff is fabulous too! It's just a shame there's a length-limit because I think Kris Wahlberg's Transformations Quartet is really just too good to miss!


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[> Ooh, what about Passage by WorstWitch? -- Denorios, 15:30:39 07/29/02 Mon (webcacheM07b.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.194.17)

I mean, it's a classic. But it is NC-17 and High School era too. Or there's always JBG's stuff. Or Kim Wylie's Sew The Chicken series is great. Lemme know what you guys think. Man, this is gonna be harder than I thought!


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[> [> Re: Ooh, what about Passage by WorstWitch? -- tweedisgood, 19:42:37 07/29/02 Mon (inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com/62.252.64.6)

Good to hear from you Denorios. But I think we should avoid underage fics as the potential squick factor is just too great.
I see that the "other" group are possibly choosing a Yahtzee fic so maybe we should go Gail or Wenchie this time,then I'd plug Destination Unknown even harder next time!
Denorios, are "Wounds" (Gail) and "Single White Slayer" (Gileswench)popular with you too?


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[> [> I think my vote would go for 'Wounds'... -- Denorios, 14:17:36 07/30/02 Tue (webcacheB01a.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.168.163)

Definitely 'Wounds', because I just adore it and it's one of the first fics I ever read! I haven't actually read 'Single White Slayer' but I think I'll trot off now and read it, and get back to you. But it'll be 'Wounds', I think.


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[> [> [> Just thought of an even better Gail C. non NC17 fic: -- tweedisgood, 14:59:03 07/30/02 Tue (inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com/62.252.64.6)

'Tomorrow', or it might be 'Tomorrows', not 100% sure, but there is emotional angst and less gore than Wounds and some low key B/G kissage (aaahh). On the Once More site.


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[> [> [> Just thought of an even better Gail C. non NC17 fic: -- tweedisgood, 15:00:15 07/30/02 Tue (inktomi3-ltn.server.ntl.com/62.252.64.6)

'Tomorrow', or it might be 'Tomorrows', not 100% sure, but there is emotional angst and less gore than Wounds and some low key B/G kissage (aaahh). On the Once More site.


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[> [> [> tweedisgood, I gotta agree with you there! -- Denorios, 12:35:16 07/31/02 Wed (webcacheB03a.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.168.165)

I just reread both Wounds and Tomorrow, and I think you're right. Wounds is a little over-angsty, and Tomorrow manages to wrap up a few of the Season 4 threads that I think the show didn't really do. So I'm throwing my hat in the ring for Tomorrow by Gail. Anybody else?


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[> [> [> [> Re: tweedisgood, I gotta agree with you there! -- Doe, 20:16:54 08/03/02 Sat (proxys.sj3.marketscore.com/216.148.246.70)

Count me for "Tomorrow" also.


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[> So are we all agreed on Tomorrow? CoralCat? Missy? -- Denorios, 14:02:06 08/04/02 Sun (webcacheB12a.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.168.174)


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[> [> Re: So are we all agreed on Tomorrow? CoralCat? Missy? -- Coral Cat, 22:50:25 08/04/02 Sun (user-33qtpdj.dialup.mindspring.com/199.174.229.179)

I'll go along with it, although given my druthers I'd probably select something a bit more plot heavy, and with a bit less emphasis on the 'wronged Giles' theme. We're selecting something that the non-B/G'ers are going to (theoretically) read. I think Gail is a great first choice, however. I'll leaf through her site tonight, see if I can spot anything I think might work better.


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[> [> [> Cool. I'm easy really. I just wanna make some converts! -- Denorios, 03:02:26 08/05/02 Mon (webcacheB01a.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.168.163)


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[> [> [> I do like Tomorrow, but I agree with Coral Cat... -- Missy, 21:35:25 08/05/02 Mon (h24-76-95-3.vc.shawcable.net/24.76.95.3)

with regards to the plot angle. I still do really like the Yahtzee fic first suggested, but if there are others that look like good possibilities, I'm totally open to them. Besides, it's much fun reading them.


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[> [> [> Obviously I'm fine with Destination Unknown too -- tweedisgood, 18:09:19 08/06/02 Tue (m41-mp1.cvx1-c.che.dial.ntli.net/213.104.104.41)

since I recced it. But any others of Gail you may find would be fine. Problem is most of hers are NC17 at some point.


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