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Date Posted: 08:11:38 06/01/03 Sun
Author: Cory
Subject: not really a truth, just an idea.
In reply to: Talen P. 's message, "To Cory" on 02:35:48 06/01/03 Sun

The allegory thing about Tolkein detesting them? Thanks, i watched the DVD as well. Look deeper into his works, he's the one that said the Hobbits were representations of Enlishmen, and that Isegaard was an allegory for the British destroying their countryside.

Speaking of rejecting or accepting jesus, how does that relate to the movie? What's your excuse for preaching on here?
Those that "rejected" Neo could still be saved by him, he didn't damn them, did he? And didn't the Architect basically inform Neo that he was another form of control, even though he wasn't "a part of the matrix?"

I think that the Matrix applies to real life very much on the whole choiuce subject. The Matrix gave the "illusion of choice," very much like real life. Is choosing between mcdeadcow or murder king really a choice? or christianity or judaism? Aren't they, in the end, all the same thing?

If you look at religion through the years, (and not just christianity) you will see that it very much is a system of control. What is the bible? a set of rules, what to do and what will happen if you do not obey.

The angents almost act missionary-like to Neo, offering him redemption to track down another blasphemer, if you will.

And i apologize, i misrepresented myself. I didn't mean life was only for enjoyment. I am sorry for that, i'm a strong environmentalist, vegetarian, car-hating tree-hugger. So i do agree that our lives are more than ourselves. Marriage alone is proof of that, i'd do anything for my wife. At the same time, i don't have to follow some old book's rules on how to live my life. They're outdated and tired, and there are new things in life that teach great lessons, from Tolkein, Vonnegut, Kearouac, and Palhiniuck to the Wachowskis and beyond.




>Cory, I dissagree with you on one fundamental point:
>You believe 'The world is what you make of it so enjoy
>it while it lasts'(not a direct quote) more or less. I
>believe that there is a purpose beyond ourselves.
>There is more to life than just enjoyment.
>Either point of view could be valid so I respect your
>opinion.
>
>Jesus did not make another system of controle. He
>presented everyone with a choice. Accept Him or
>reject Him.
>It is up to you to make the choice. No one is
>controling you. Just like what I said at the end of my
>first post: If you don't like it you don't have to
>choose it.
>It (like the Matrix) all comes down to free will and a
>choice.
>
>One last small note. Tolkien avoided Allegory (he even
>wrote that he detested it). He wrote a fictional
>history which can be applied in many, many ways
>(Mordor could represent the Axis forces and the Ring
>Atomic power for example).
>________
>Talen P.

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