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Date Posted: 08:22:41 07/05/03 Sat
In reply to:
Lika
's message, "Re: SxK Plausibility" on 01:56:06 07/04/03 Fri
>But one has got to separate what they cherish from
>what the fictional characters cherishes when posting
>their opinion on said character. You may have not
>meant to say that your views are true for everyone
>else, but in insisting fictional characters do share
>them, and that the writers/authors of them are in
>denial if they don't, you certainly sound like it's
>your way is the right way that everyone should share.
>
Hmm...you've lost me. Maybe it's because I'm hung over. Mmm, beer.
>Aeanagwen wasn't putting words in your mouth. She was
>giving *her* opinions. She's passionate, sure, but
>most people here are, including yours truly, and
>Aeanagwen's post was well-written and thoughtful as
>usual.
Nice. But I didn't want to argue with her. I HATE arguing with people. So when I am forced into it I get rather bitchy. So, apparently, does she.
>
>Seishirou and Subaru's relationship, even without the
>sex, is very sensual. It's enough that people who are
>iffy about homosexuality won't read it. Homophobes
>are not, "hey, let the guys flirt and get all sexual
>innuendo-y, anything but sex" but rather, "DON'T EVEN
>LOOK AT HIM LIKE THAT!"
Agreed. But I never said anything about homophobes. Hell, watching men have sex grosses /me/ out. When it's tastefully done, sure why not. But when it gets down to pulsating-penis-buried-in-puckered-asshole that just fucks me up.
>
>so it's not that m/m sex isn't accepted then and
>thrown into people's face, but any kind of sex
Wha? Lost me. Again.
>But we saw them in bed naked (whoo hoo!) and CLAMP
>made it pretty freaking clear that they had sex.
>CLAMP doesn't shove things done people's throat, but
>they're not dainty, did-they-do-it folks either. If
>any characters in their series had sex, you'll know.
Jesus christ, I am not trying to start a war here. I really could give a shit less if any of the characters /didn't/ have sex--they're fucking *characters*. Sure, I would of liked the series a hell of a lot more, but hey, there's always porn.
>Hey, jump on anyone's beloved characters and expect
>backlash. I love backlash so I do it often (SUBARU
>SUCKS FOLKS!), but don't say anything bitchy about
>Karen without expecting me to tear you into pieces.
>Or anything about Kotori without Aeanagwen making her,
>thankfully, more coherent thoughts on the matter.
>She's passionate, but she's not imflammatory by any
>means.
>
Sweet. I never said she was. *twiddles thumbs*
>Me too. I want to have sex from anything to men to
>women to rabbits to aliens. Seriously.
Sarcasm? If not, you rock.
>Oh, you need to watch Will and Grace. Sex would ruin
>their relationship. And Mulder and Scully (actually
>it did :P)
Well, they're missing out. Sex is the shit.
>
>>And the thought of Kotori and
>>Kamui having sex would bother me terribly,
>
>Neither are ready for it so it would bother me too.
>In a few years though, I'll arrange the honeymoon
>suite for them.
Hmm. Sex with a disembodied head...sounds kinky.
>
>HUH? Controlling?
Yep. Look it up. It's in the dictionary, I think. I'll double-check if you want...
>Oh, he's a tough little kicker *Hugs him* Also, in
>S/K, he would be the seme. Subaru, that little limp
>ragdoll of a whiner, has to be uke. Make for that
>role. Kamui's so on top.
Gah, I hate this whole seme-uke thing. People act on their impulses, they can't be read like books. If Subaru wanted to be on top, then dammit, let him go.
>Oh come off it. Give Kamui a bit more credit than
>that. Sure, he needs to be kicked in the pants a few
>times and told to grow up, but he's doing pretty well
>so far. He's getting a brain and a backbone and is
>currently MUCH more mature than Subaru will EVER be.
>He doesn't know what the hell he wants (who the hell
>does beside Yuzuriha?), but at least he knows what he
>has to do to get it. He's loyal, strong, sticks to
>his guns, recovers after fights now, and is quick to
>react and do stuff. He's not a man yet, but give him
>a few years and he'll be a great one, and the one who
>will help Subaru get back on his feet. With help from
>friends, yes, but he doesn't need any protection or
>nurturing.
Good fucking point. You burned me there. Motherfucker.
>
>Kotori understood more than a lot of the angels did.
>Certainly more than my darling Karen, whom I love to
>pieces and revere and think as a goddess. She
>understood that fate wasn't set. That's maturity for
>you.
Kotori is a cunt. A stupid, giggling cunt. She's kool when she's insane, though. And I *LOVE* Karen. She is the fucking fire-breathing goddess of life, I say. But Kotori is still a cunt.
>
>Wow, people says their opinions and words are being
>shoved down your mouth? You don't like discussions,
>much, do you?
Actually I rather like them. Beats picking my ass anyday.
>
>Biologically, perhaps, but emotionally and
>psychological, the guy's a toddler. And while sexual
>urges are biological, sex is best when one is
>emotionally and psychologically ready for it. Why
>women orgasm more at 30 than at 20.
Really? Somebody needs to recount then. I orgasm more than any living creature on earth.
>
>But earlier you said that 25 years old virgins are
>ick. so it came off as people who didn't have sex in
>high school were worth shuddering about. Your post
>also sounded like, if Subaru didn't have sex, that
>would be weird and icky. If not weird and icky, then
>immature, out of touch with themselves, in denial,
>which pretty much leads to weird and icky.
Well, I might have said that I would kill myself if I was a virgin at 25...but I don't remember using the word "ick". That just doesn't flow.
>
>(Good grief, if not having sex equal weird and icky,
>virgins are the true evil people of the world. WOO!)
Nah, not evil. Just scared.
>
>I lust after big breasted females (Karen - YUM!) and
>fluffy creatures (STITCH! BIGWIG!), but I'm not going
>to expect Arashi or Sorata or Kamui or whoever to
>dream about Karen or Inuki.
I don't get the second part, but oh hella yes is Karen yummy.
>
>You could try to disentangle yourself from fictional
>characters though.
Hmm...ditto.
--The Agent
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