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Subject: Re: Good and Evil( Let's not be maniqueists, but not naive, either)


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Aeanagwen
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Date Posted: 00:34:57 12/22/03 Mon
In reply to: Colapso 's message, "Good and Evil( Let's not be maniqueists, but not naive, either)" on 05:19:43 12/19/03 Fri

Just a brief input. There's a big difference between an evil deed and an evil person. A person can be doing evil things for what they, and perhaps others, percieve as a perfectly noble reason. So whether you measure a person as evil depends on whether you're considering their actions or their intentions--as Marina said, their motivations.

In my personal (and admittedly idealistic) worldview, there simply is no such thing as a completely, totally, irredeemably evil human being. In the same way that no one can be perfectly good, I believe no one can be perfectly evil. Of course, we're not talking about my worldview; we're talking about CLAMP's. They may think a character who is totally evil is possible. But if you see Seishirou as completely ammoral (a pretty reasonable assumption, from all I know of him), he can't really have evil intentions, because he doesn't concern himself with morality. From all we've seen, Seishirou was never particularly concerned with such things, and having Setsuka as a mother most assuredly didn't help. So if he was raised or born that way, how much of his evil is really his own fault--and if it's not his fault, can he be held responsible for his actions? That leads into a big debate about free will and self-determination.

Is he evil? That depends entirely on a very subjective definition. His actions are, by most moral standards, evil, but saying whether he himself is at heart an evil man is getting into far shakier territory. At most, he can be judged by other peoples' standards of morality, which may or may not be a fair way to measure someone who never played by those rules to begin with.

As for TB!Subaru's kindness, I'll have to agree that it's a fault. A fault is a flaw, an imperfection. Subaru is kind to such a degree that he can't look after himself, to his own detriment. Wouldn't you say that a man who gave away all of his money until he was destitute and homeless on the street was 'generous to a fault'? It works the same way with Subaru--he is kind to a FAULT, hurting himself and causing other people to worry about him, thereby also hurting them. It isn't intentional, and it's certainly not that bad, as flaws go, nothing to crucify him for, but it is nonetheless a flaw.

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Don't hate me for posting this......^_^()....I get off-topic a lot in life.....Soot04:41:51 12/22/03 Mon


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