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Date Posted: 08:10:41 06/12/03 Thu
In reply to:
Natsuki
's message, "Thoughts on Hokuto as a character" on 04:55:33 06/12/03 Thu
>*delurks* This is certainly not going to be so
>well-thought-out as the commentary on the
>Yuzuriha/Kusanagi pairing and many of the other
>threads on here, but from what I've seen, this is one
>of the better places to actually get intelligent
>responses to character discussion. (*waves pompoms*)
^______^ Yay, some positive feedback for a change. I was beginning to think that this place had a reputation of being filled with anti-YAOI Big Four haters.
Anyway, GREAT topic, thankyou.
>Anyway, in reading 'fic with Hokuto contained therein,
>I've found she's been portrayed in a lot of ways,
>varying from the most shallow in which she is just a
>side-character (not taking into account the eventual
>result of TB) to where she's as angst-ridden as her
>brother or half the X cast.
Most of the ones I've read where she pops up, it's just a way of shoving S&S together again, which really hacks me off. As you say, Hokuto is not a side-character.
>Without parents in their lives or, really, an
>authority figure save for their grandmother, it seems
>to me that as the older twin and the more 'nurturing'
>personality of the two, Hokuto became as much Subaru's
>mother as his sister.
I'd agree with that. Hokuto has a very parental attitude to Subby - even to the extent of telling him to live his own life, but then comforting him when it doesn't work out (sort of thing: I'm generalising here).
>What it resulted in was her making a great many
>choices for Subaru when she had the chance to do so.
I hasten to add, she would always leave the final decision up to him. Hokuto gave him lots of encouragement, but made him make up his own mind.
>It seems clear in the series (volume 7, when she
>speaks with Seishirou after the eye incident) that she
>knew that Seishirou was, to some extent, dangerous to
>her brother, and possibly even exactly who and what he
>was, and had for some time. The fact that she did not
>mention these suspicions to her brother at all during
>that year was a decision to take away Subaru's choice
>(by depriving him of information that, really, could
>have saved him a great deal of heartache) that I don't
>completely understand.
Actually, ali-chan and I had touched on this in blogland. Really it seems as if both Subby and Hokuto know that there's something not quite right about Seishirou. Subaru is often contemplating about Sei's enigmatic side.
>She seemed to content herself
>with threatening Seishirou with dire consequences if
>he made Subaru cry, and yet in the end she gave him
>yet another chance with her brother in spite of
>everything that had been done, by sacrificing her own
>life.
I guess, the only answer is she did it for Subaru's sake - all of it.
>Admittedly, there was another very, very important
>benefit to this: it woke Subaru from the depths of his
>own heart, but in another sense, it left him
>completely without any sort of support by anyone he
>loved after he awoke.
I know others agree with me here: Hokuto was selfish. In the choice between living without Subby or Subby living without her, she chose the latter.
>threaten Seishirou without fear if he made Subaru cry
>or someone harmed Subaru. I believe that this is a
>result of her not having the knowledge/example to step
>back and allow Subaru to make his own choices.
Oh, heheheh. Seems as if you think the opposite to me. ^_^ Yes, Hokuto is very overbearing, outgoing, loud, etc. I also saw her never interfering with Subby's work, supporting him when there was nothing she could do but give words of comfort, pushing him to find something for himself, something to be attached to that was his alone.
>A friend said, "When I look at X, I can think of only
>one decision that Subaru made that was solely his
>choice and not anyone else's and not influenced by
>what he thought others expected of him."
Very true.
>So, I wonder if her death wasn't an easy way out, in a
>sense, as well as an attempt to 1.) awaken her
>brother, 2.) by casting the spell she did, keep that
>other side of Seishirou contained, that instinct of
>self-preservation would bring the Seishirou he'd shown
>them for the year of the bet to the fore, and 3.)
>perhaps satisfy the Bet with Sumeragi blood and what
>power she possessed so that the Tree wouldn't bug
>Seishirou quite as much. I adore Hokuto; she's my
>favorite CLAMP character, and I often wish that she
>hadn't died, yet she's also one of the most complex to
>try to get a handle on.
Yes, yes, and yes.
She's my favourite female CLAMP character. ^_^
>If you'll note, in the dreamscenes with Kakyou (and
>his memories of such), Hokuto is wearing relatively
>simple clothing that doesn't look like sleepwear or
>something that she'd normally wear. Is this a
>perception-of-self thing, where how she is in dreams
>is how she is beneath her own masks (which abound in
>TB), or is there a simpler explanation?
ARGH! I want to know! I'm still assuming those were her pyjamas, but were they or not? someone heeeeeeeeeeeelp! Chinese-style clothes as PJs are weird (although, this is Hokuto we're talking about) so were they PJs?
*beats head against wall*
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