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Date Posted: 06:52:39 02/05/04 Thu
Author: Robert
Author Host/IP: host093025.phil.uni-erlangen.de / 131.188.93.25
Subject: The socalled welfare is required for emergency situations - It could be less much less if there would be a right to get work and decent payment for it.
In reply to: Hero of Time 's message, "I have a problem with being taxed for charities....that's not what taxes are used for. In essence, they're like paying rent to live in the nation and use its benefits." on 16:57:09 02/02/04 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Um, Robert, how exactly can there be a right to work? -- Joe Taylor, 22:56:44 02/05/04 Thu (wc03.wlfdle.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com/66.185.84.70)

I mean, technically there can be, but I don't see any place where there's full employment. There're always small things like seasonal unemployment (you don't really expect employers to pay Santa Clauses all the year 'round, do you?) and structual unemployment. It's just impossible to get full employment.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Also, people can quit their jobs because they get pissed, but nobody else happens to need any extra help. It happened to me for about a month, before I got this kickass factory job. -- Heroic Employer, 04:32:08 02/06/04 Fri (68-119-244-175-rcp2.ubr1.wrbg.mo.charter.com/68.119.244.175)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Just what I meant....:) -- Robert, 15:04:50 02/06/04 Fri (host093025.phil.uni-erlangen.de/131.188.93.25)

since you can't guarantee work, expecially nowadays with all the downsizing goining on, that people can get a job that is that provides their living, it's necessary to deal with the stuff in a different way. Obviously you can't let people starve if there aren't any jobs available.

Main problem today however is that due to automation fewer and fewer people are required to produce the stuff. What about the ones who are downsized?
Reducing the population will not work because then way too much stuff is produced, so that again people have to be downsized.

The complete economical system has to be reorganized. If the current line will go on the stuff will collapse within not too much time.


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