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Nuo 1940 m. iki 1991 m. Lietuvoje galima iskirti tris kolaboravimo laikotarpius: soviet okupacijos (19401941 m. ir 19441990 m.), naci okupacijos (19411944 m.) ir nepriklausomybs atkrimo Atgimimo (19901991 m.), Maskvai stengiantis susigrinti valdi Lietuvoje. Lietuvos valstybingumo poiriu soviet ir naci okupacij metais kolaborant veiklos tikslai ir bdai i esms skyrsi.
Soviet kolaborantai buvo prie nepriklausom Lietuvos valstyb ir u viening bei nedalom Soviet Sjung. Politine prasme jie Lietuvos ateities nemat be amin ryi su Rusija. Taiau neoficialiomis priemonmis jie siek, kad Lietuva turt kultrin ir i dalies kin autonomij (buvo u lietuvi ir rus dvikalbyst, u savarankik ems kio ir dalies pramons tvarkym, palaik tautin vietimo sistem ir vietinius kadrus). Naci okupacijos metais tikr lietuvi kolaborant buvo nedaug (t, kurie pritar aminiems ryiams su Vokietija). Daugelis lietuvi pareign, dirbusi kolaborantins valdios staigose, buvo u nepriklausom Lietuv ir atkakliai jos siek. Jie stengsi isaugoti lietuvikas institucijas ir valstybin tautin atributik. Vis dlto dalis aukt pareign ir politik kompromiso dlei arba politiniais sumetimais talkininkavo vokieiams, kolaboravo su jais (voldemarininkai, generaliniai tarjai, LNP nariai, policininkai).

Pirmaisiais 1940 m. soviet okupacijos mnesiais Lietuvoje nebuvo steigiamos okupacins valdios struktros. Lietuvos inkorporavimui SSRS Vladimiras Dekanozovas suformavo marionetin Lietuvos vyriausyb. Ji turjo tam tikr politinio savarankikumo bruo, todl galjo bent kiek prieintis okupant savivalei ir nurodymams, bet ito nedar. Dl politinio trumparegikumo, pasyvumo ir nuolankumo bei dalies vyriausybs, ypa komunist, idavikikos veiklos ji padjo okupantams inkorporuoti Lietuv SSRS (pvz., A. Sniekaus veikla Valstybs saugumo departamente). Galingoji ir nenugalimoji Darbinink ir valstiei Raudonoji armija, ilaisvinusi ms krat, utikrins ms sien nelieiamum, kalbjo A. Sniekus 1940 m. liepos 21 d. Liaudies seimo posdyje. Jo silymu buvo svarstytas klausimas dl Lietuvos stojimo SSRS, nors rinkim kampanijoje apie tai nieko nebuvo kalbta. Rugpjio 3 d. Justo Paleckio vadovaujama delegacija ivyko Maskv, kur Lietuva formaliai buvo priimta SSRS. Baigsi pirmasis okupacijos etapas. Dabar lietuviai komunistai ir kiti okupant talkininkai turjo ne tik demonstruoti idjin itikimyb Kremliui ir Josifui Stalinui, bet ir rodyti j darbais.

Pagal SSRS politins sistemos pavyzd Lietuvoje buvo steigtos okupacins centrins ir vietos

Koloboravimas3, 2003 01 25 17:04
Pagal SSRS politins sistemos pavyzd Lietuvoje buvo steigtos okupacins centrins ir vietos respublikins valdios struktros (LKP CK, LTSR MT, LTSR AT, NKVDNKGB, vietos partiniai ir vykdomieji komitetai ir kt.). Daugeliu atvej vadovauti ioms struktroms buvo paskirti ne okupantai, o buv Lietuvos pilieiai, daniausiai komunistai, kurie dl ideologini sitikinim rm Soviet Sjung. A. Sniekus tapo LKP CK pirmuoju sekretoriumi svarbiausiuoju Maskvos politini ir ideologini direktyv vykdytoju, represij organizatoriumi, M. Gedvilas LTSR MT pirmininku, J. Paleckis LTSR AT Prezidiumo pirmininku, Aleksandras Guzeviius NKGB komisaru, Vincas Vitkauskas Liaudies kariuomens vadu, Vladas Niunka LTSR prokuroru ir t. t. Kadangi jie gyn ne Lietuvos, o SSRS, t. y. okupant interesus, j veikl galima vertinti kaip bendradarbiavim, kolaboravim. Sovietmeiu egzistavusias LTSR Aukiausij Taryb, LKP Centro komitet, LTSR Ministr Taryb galima vadinti marionetinmis (kolaborantinmis), o j vadovus kolaborantais.

Prasidjus antrajai sovietinei okupacijai (19441990 m.) sra papild nauj ikilusi lietuvi kolaborant pavards. Pokario metais (19441953 m.) centrins valdios pareignai pasirainjo dokumentus, kurie pareigojo emesniuosius pavaldinius represuoti kovojanius dl tautos laisvs ir kitaip mstanius mones. Pavyzdiui, A. Sniekus, M. Gedvilas, Kazys Preikas yra pasira dokumentus, kurie pareigojo pavaldinius organizuoti gyventoj trmimus ir konfiskuoti j turt. Soviet kolaborantai nesiprieino rusinimui, stengsi naikinti visk, kas primin nepriklausom Lietuv. Taiau kolaboravimas jo ir i apaios. Pavyzdiui, 1944 m. ruden daugelio apskrii ir valsi partini ir vykdomj komitet vadovai kreipsi LKP(b) CK, praydami itremti eimas, kuri nariai su ginklu kovojo prie soviet valdi. ie vietins valdios pareignai nuo senino iki valsiaus pirmininko geriausiai inojo konkrei moni gyvenim, j nuotaikas bei pairas. Ne visi, taiau daugelis j reng trmim sraus, padjo greiiau likviduoti ginkluot pogrind ir kt. Prie kolaborant priskirtini stribai, ginkluoti soviet aktyvistai, represinse struktrose dirb pareignai. Btent j rankomis atlikti pragaitingi darbai propagandiniais tikslais buvo skelbiami kaip lietuvi tautos teisinga kova su banditais, buomis, buruaziniais nacionalistais. inoma, pagrindin atsakomyb u kolaboravim turt tekti ne pavaldiniams, o aukiausios valdios pareignams, kurie tiesiogiai bendradarbiaudami su okupantais numatydavo konkreius bdus j nurodymams, direktyvoms gyvendinti.
Kolaboravimas4, 2003 01 25 17:05
Kai kas sako, kad jie neturjo kito kelio. Bet visada egzistuoja balansas tarp politikos ir morals. Istorija rodo, kad net iauriausiomis antidemokratinmis slygomis, nors ir retai, vis tiek atsiranda politini asmenybi, kurios bent jau stengdavosi, kad bt neprasilenkiama su morale. inoma, reikia skirti politin kolaboracionizm nuo vadovaujanios veiklos kinje ar socialinje srityje. Totalitarizmo slygomis visus vadovus ekonomikos ar kultros sferose daniausiai vienijo partijos naryst, jie privaljo bti itikimi okupantams. Bet jie nra visikai atsakingi u politik veiksmus, u LKP ir vyriausybs vadov kolaboracionizm visais sovietiniais metais. iandien nereikia kaltinti t moni, kurie, anksiau um auktus postus, neturjo tiesioginio ryio su okupantais (pvz., NKVDKGB) ar vadovaujaniomis partinmis institucijomis Maskvoje. Ne visi galjo bti rezistentais ar disidentais. Danai j nuoirdus darbas dar Lietuvai tik gera, net okupacijos slygomis.

Pokario Lietuva (19441953 m.) gyveno klasikin okupacinio reimo laikotarp. ia veik okupacins partins ir valstybins valdios struktros: VKP(b) CK Lietuvos biuras, keturi ri okupaciniai teismai (Ypatingasis pasitarimas, NKVD karinis tribunolas, geleinkelio ir Nemuno baseino teismai), Raudonoji armija, NKVDMGB su savo karinmis dalimis ir kt. Jiems talkininkavo marionetins (kolaborantins) valdios staigos.

Po J. Stalino mirties okupacinis ir totalitarinis reimas Lietuvoje suvelnjo, gijo kitas formas. Vadovaujant Maskvai, Lietuvos prieira buvo patikta kolaborantinei LTSR administracijai. SSRS okupacins struktros (armija, KGB, i dalies vidaus reikal sistema), globodamos politin reim, atliko tik elin, rezervin vaidmen. J pasirodymas politinje arenoje buvo reikalingas tik ekstremaliomis aplinkybmis (19551956 m., 1972 m. Kaune, 19881991 m. visoje Lietuvoje). Kadangi ginkluotas pasiprieinimas buvo palautas, o mons neteko vilties sulaukti Vakar pagalbos, ilgalaiks sovietins okupacijos slygomis moralinis smerkimas u kolaboravim aptilo, paplito konformizmas. Ir po 1953 m. egzistavo pogrindis, atsirado disidentai, taiau terorui sumajus, atsirado galimyb rinktis tarp mirties (kalinimo) ir kolaboravimo. Retas tesirinko mirt. Sovietins valdios ir komunist partijos struktrose radosi vis daugiau lietuvi. Atsivelgiant tai, keitsi ir lietuvikojo kolaboracionizmo turinys. Sovietins okupacijos pabaigoje ios institucijos ir jose daugum sudarantys lietuviai tapo viena i prieasi, palengvinusi atgauti nepriklausomyb.
Kolaboravimas5, 2003 01 25 17:07
Iki 1953 m. Lietuva buvo beteis okupuota valstyb. Nikitos Chruiovo valdymo ir vlesniais metais Lietuva pamau gijo oficialiai neteisint kultrins autonomijos status. Nusistovjo lietuvi ir rus dvikalbyst. Suprantama, tautins kultros raida susidr su komunistins ideologijos cenzra ir politine prievarta, homo sovieticus sindromu, mankurtizmu. Be to, iuo laikotarpiu pakankamai spariai vystsi orientuota SSRS Lietuvos ekonomika, palankia linkme keitsi moni gyvenimo lygis.

Prie vis i pozityvi reikini (okupacijos slygomis) prisidjo Lietuvos kolaborantins struktros, j vadovai A. Sniekus, Motiejus umauskas, Juozas Maniuis, Vytautas Sakalauskas ir kiti. Taiau politine prasme jie visada itikimai tarnavo savo eimininkams okupantams, be sovietins imperijos nemat Lietuvos ir lietuvi tautos tolesnio egzistavimo perspektyvos. Pavyzdiui, pagal Maskvos nurodym LKP CK pirmasis sekretorius Petras Grikeviius nesiprieino ir net palaik Lietuvos rusinimo program 19791984 m.

1988 m. vasar prasidjs Sjdio inicijuotas lietuvi tautos Atgimimas per trump laik pakeit politin situacij Lietuvoje. Susilpnjs okupacinis ir komunistinis reimas sudar slygas ikilti demokratinms ir patriotinms jgoms. 19881990 m. LTSR AT i kolaborantins institucijos pamau virto nuo Maskvos savarankik politik vykdaniu aukiausiuoju Lietuvos valdios organu. 1989 m. gruodio mn. savo XX suvaiavime buvusi kolaborantin LKP atsiskyr nuo SSKP. Nedidel Lietuvos komunist ortodoks dalis (Mykolas Burokeviius, Juozas Jermalaviius, Stanislovas Giedraitis, Vladislovas vedas, Konstantinas Surblys, Juozas Kuolelis ir kt.) liko SSKP nariais ir steig Kremliaus vadovaujam savo komunist partij. 1990 m. kovo 11 d. paskelbus Lietuvos nepriklausomyb, jie kovojo prie j, kolaboravo su Soviet Sjungos represinmis struktromis (KGB, OMONu) ir kariuomene, buvo SSRS imperins politikos rankis Lietuvoje. Naujieji kolaborantai ypa pasiymjo tragikomis 1991 m. sausio dienomis Vilniuje. Jie dalyvavo kruvinose akcijose, stengsi destabilizuoti politin padt ir suskaldyti Lietuv, skatino separatistines tendencijas Vilniaus ir alinink rajonuose, Sniekuje (Visagine) ir Klaipdoje. Remdamiesi brutalia sovietins armijos jga, steig naujas kolaborantins valdios struktras (Nacionalinio gelbjimo komitet ir kt.). 1991 m. rugpjio mn. Maskvoje demokratinms jgoms nugaljus puistus (komunistins imperins SSRS alininkus), Lietuva gijo reali politin nepriklausomyb. Vieni Lietuvos kolaborantai bgo Rusij ar Baltarusij, kiti pasiliko Lietuvoje. Pabgti pavyko svarbiausiems kolaborantams M. Burokeviiui ir J. Jermalaviiui, taiau Lietuvos teissaugos institucijoms pavyko juos susigrinti Lietuv ir nuteisti.

Vokiei okupacijos metais, iskyrus sovietinius partizanus ir pogrindininkus bei Armij krajov, visos Lietuvos politins jgos palaik Lietuvos nepriklausomybs atkrim, tik j veiklos bdai buvo skirtingi. Atsivelgiant tai, yra pakankamai sunku nusprsti, kur baigiasi siekiai atkurti valstybingum ir kur prasideda kolaboravimas su naciais. Taip pat labai svarbu nustatyti kolaborant individuali kalt ar nusikalto monikumui, monijai, savo tautai, ar pakenk Lietuvos valstybingumui.

Formaliai irint, tipikais lietuvi kolaborantais galima laikyti pronacistins Lietuvi nacionalist partijos, generalini tarj institucijos bei lietuvi policijos batalion narius.

Kolaboravimas6, 2003 01 25 17:08
Sovietinje istoriografijoje 1941 m. birelio 23 d. sudaryta Lietuvos laikinoji vyriausyb (LV) buvo vardyta kolaborantine. Iskyrus yd klausim, tai netiesa. Lietuv okupav vokieiai susidr su vykusiu Lietuvos valstybs atkrimo faktu. LV statyminiais potvarkiais paskelb, kad atkuriama nepriklausomoje Lietuvoje veikusi administracin sistema, panaikinami SSRS okupacins valdios nacionalizacijos statymai ir kt. Taiau vokiei administracija nepripaino Laikinosios vyriausybs ir vliau nutrauk jos veikl.

LV nariai asmenikai nepritar pradtam yd genocidui, taiau vyriausybs vardu vieai nebuvo protestuota. yd diskriminavimo iniciatyva priklaus vokiei okupacinei valdiai, taiau buvo reikalaujama, kad lietuvikos staigos vykdyt antisemitin politik. Laikinoji vyriausyb, nenordama konfliktuoti su okupacine vokiei valdia, pritar naci antisemitinei politikai ir vykd konkreius darbus, duodama nurodym suvaryti visus Lietuvos ydus getus. LV veikimo laikotarpiu (1941 06 231941 08 05) vykstant masiniam yd genocidui, Kauno miesto, iauli ir Alytaus apskrii lietuvikoji vietos administracija prim sprendimus dl get sudarymo. 1941 m. rugpjio 1 d. LV prim antihumanikus yd padties nuostatus.

yd persekiojimas (mogaus laisvi ir teisi apribojimas, suvarymas) ir udymas ( holokaustas) yra susij, taiau skirtingi dalykai. I inom istorini fakt galima daryti ivad, kad LV nebuvo tiesiogiai susijusi su yd udynmis, taiau juos persekiojo (padjo vokieiams apriboti j prigimtines laisves ir pilietines teises). iuo poiriu LV kolaboravo su naciais ir vykd jai primest antisemitin politik. Tokiai LV veiklai takos turjo ne tik jos bandymas laviruoti ir susitarti su vokieiais dl ilgesnio egzistavimo, bet ir jos nari antihumanikos politins ir ideologins nuostatos yd atvilgiu, susiklosiusios Vokietijoje tarp LAF organizacijos nari, voldemarinink.

Ar galima pateisinti lietuvi kolaborantus, jeigu jie siek Lietuvos nepriklausomybs? Galima, jei jie nepaeid gyventoj teisi ir laisvi. Istorijos faktai liudija, kad paeidimai buvo dideli, kolaborantai kartu su naciais savo padarytais veiksmais netgi nusikalto monijai. Ir nors kolaborantai, kaip tarpininkai, suvelnino okupacinio reimo padarinius lietuvi tautai, taiau tai i dalies buvo padaryta kit taut (yd, igon, rus) sskaita.

Kolaboravimas yra ne tik politin, bet ir moralin problema. Bendradarbiavimas su okupantais yra gdingas ir smerktinas dalykas. inoma, gyvenimas yra labai sudtingas ir nemanoma i anksto numatyti, kaip elgtis sudtingomis slygomis, taiau pataikavimas ir keliaklupsiavimas atjnams visados yra amoralus. ."
Kolaboravimas7, 2003 01 25 17:17

Antanas Garmus: -"Apskritai, visas Liaudies Seimas tebuvo tik Seimo parodija. Kaip jis smurtu ir apgavystmis sudarytas, taip lygiai tik teroro spaudiamas jis formaliai atliko bolevik norimus darbus. Liaudies Seimas nieku bdu nra ireiks lietuvi tautos valios. Jis tegaljo ireikti tik keli imt Lietuvos komunist (1940 m. komunist Lietuvoje buvo apie 700 imtus - aut. pastaba) ir Maskvos viepai vali. Tam tikslui jis juk ir tebuvo "irinktas". Tai buvo "seimas" ,bet ne Lietuvos "Seimas".
Taigi, Antanas Sniekus 1940 m. Liaudies Seimo atstovas taip pat inojo tikrj padt, inojo savo judik idavyst Lietuvos nepriklausomybs pakasynose, slp nuo savo tautiei ties apie "taiki revoliucij" Lietuvoje, net nuo savo aukltini brio: grikevii, brazauskinink. A Manau, kad ios tiesos neinojo ir 1990 m. Lietuvos Aukiausios Tarybos deputatai, nes j kinkos drebjo, paskelbiant, jog 1940 met Justo Paleckio "Liaudies Seimo" nutarimai yra neteisti ir atstatoma Lietuvos nepriklausomyb. Tenka apgailestauti, kad Lietuvoje yra moni, kurie link garbinti ano meto Lietuvos pardavj dalyvius.
Kada lietuvi tauta susipras ir nebalsuos u partij sraus, nes kiekvienos partijos srauose yra mstani Sniekaus protu???
Kolaboravimas8, 2003 01 25 17:25
Beviltikoje padtyje kartais suvyti netikti stebuklai. Tokiu stebuklu buvo 1949. VLIKo paskelbtoje Lietuvi Chartoje LB mintis, 1951 m. virtusi iame krate organizacine gyvybe. O tuo metu laikai tamss lietuvi tautos laikai. Kremliuje raudonai ieirbavo Berijos priirimas Stalino peius. Lietuvoje msmals mechanizm tvark Antanas Sniekus su pagalba Paleckio, Venclovos, Gedvilos, umausko ir didels gaujos saugumiei. Mokyklos jau buvo sibgjusios ruoiant naujus komisar pakaitus. Kaimas guljo agonijoje, mikai jau buvo iukuoti, uliniai uversti partizan knais, Sibiras imirkytas tremtini aarose ir prakaite. O karo pabgliai? Po kompromituojanios DP lemties jie skubjo i Europos, kad sikabint kok nors kit emyn. Tada lietuviai nesidiaug nei saule, nei mnesiena.
Kolaboravimas10, 2003 01 25 17:32
Aplinkins slav tautos , rusai, ukrainieiai, lenkai, gudai, namins degtins i jav niekada nemokjo ir nnai nemoka. Jie i duonos su mielmis ir cukrumi (anksiau - medumi) uraugia gir, o kai j perraugina, - gauna svaigj grim. i perrgusi gira, priklausomai kiek dedama cukraus, gali bti iki 15 laipsni stiprumo. Tiesa, namin degtin i jav moka pasigaminti Sovietins Gudijos Svyri apskrities gyventojai, bet jie, jokiu bdu nra slavai, o jotvingiai - balt gentis, sovietiniais laikais, kai rusai visus okupuotus kratus rusino, pasuose rayti net ne gudais (baltarusiais), o rusais. (Ar kada nors bus atitinkamai vertinti bolevikai A.Sniekus ir J.Paleckis, kurie 1940 metais pardav dal Lietuvos dabartinei Baltarusijai, o ten gyvenanius lietuvius pavert rusais?)

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>> Romos Katalik banyios vienuoli ordinas, msuose inomas - Kalavijuoi ordino (Kristaus kariuomens broliai) vardu. kurtas Brmeno Romos Katalik banyios vyskupo kapitulos nario Alberto (1199-1229), vliau Livonijos vyskupas. Nuo savo krimo 1202 met sistemingai vykd fizin ir dvasin Lietuvi, Latvi, Est ir kt. taut genocid.

Kalavijuoi ordinas nevykd lietuvi genocido - jis sureng tik 2 ygius Lietuv (1229 ir 1236 m.), ir antrojo ygio metu patyr tok pralaimjim, kad buvo panaikintas ir prijungtas prie Vokiei (kryiuoi) ordino (1237 m.). Kalavijuoi ordinas nevykd ir latvi bei est genocido - jis vykd tik j pajungimo politik. Nors kov metu bta ir auk, bet genocidas yra kas kita - kryptingas tautos naikinimas.

Lygiai taip pat ir Kryiuoiai nevykd prs genocido, o tik pajung juos. Gal panaiau genocid jotvingi ems pavertimas dykra, nors tai irgi nereikia, kad visi jotvingiai buvo fizikai inaikinti - dalis j pasitrauk Lietuv, dalis - apgyvendinta Semboje, kur susiformavo vadinamasis "Sduvi kampas" (tam tikra neymi ir neorganizuota dalis, matyt, liko gyventi dykroje).

>> 2. Mazovijos, Kujavijos ir Krokuvos kunigaiktis Konradas I Mazovietis ( g.1187 m.1247) ir Katalik banyios pirmasis vyskupas Prsijoje Cisters ordino vienuolis Kristijonas ( gim? mir1244 ar 1245?) - 1215/1216 paskirtas Romoje popieiaus Honorijaus III. 1228 m. Dobrynje kr Dobryns broli ordin (Prsijos Kristaus broliai) ( 1238 ordinas buvo sunaikintas panaudojus karin jg). Pradj Prs ir Jotvingi taut genocid.

Dobryns ordinas buvo silpnas, neveiklus, nieko blogo prsams nepadar ir negaljo padaryti. Prs nelaims prasidjo tik su kryiuoi pasirodymu.

>> b) Pavelas I / Paul I Romanov / Павел I Романов / (1796 1801) - galutinai sunaikins apie 400 metus egzistavusi bendr Lietuvos Lenkijos valstyb, 1799 m. okupavs ir jungs j Rusijos imperijos sudt, pradjs Lietuvi tautos dvasin ir kultrin genocid, pasibaigus tik 1991 metais (su trumpa pertrauka 1918 1939 m.).

Atvirkiai, Pavelas I, nekents savo valdingos motinos, stengsi elgitis prieingai, ir reik tam tikr palankum Lietuvai - buvo amnestuota daugelis politini kalini, tame tarpe ir Tadas Kosciuka, sukurta Lietuvos gubernija, apjungusi III padalinimo metu Rusijai atitekusias Lietuvos emes, buvo galvojama net apie Lenkijos-Lietuvos valstybs atkrim Rusijos protektorate. 1799 m. Lietuva negaljo bti okupuota, nes tai padar dar Jekaterina 1794-95 m.

Ir toliau labai formaliai vardinami Rusijos imperatoriai bei Soviet sjungos vadovai, kuriems visiems tarsi pagal pareigas priklauso bti svarbiausiais Lietuvos prieais. Tai labai schematika, formalu. Reikia iskirti tik tuos, kurie i ties padar Lietuvai alos, ir irti ne titulus, o reali veikl. Pvz., Muravjovas Korikas tikrai juodesn figra Lietuvos istorijoje, negu pakankamai liberalus imperatorius Aleksandras I (jo laikais suklestjo Vilniaus universitetas, taps Ryt Europos masto kultros idiniu), o Gorbaiovas, kurio dka sugriuvo imperija, Lietuvos istorijoje apskritai suvaidino teigiam vaidmen.
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Vikingas:
Aciu Tomai uz pataisymus. Su daugeliu is ju sutinku, pvz. del Pavelo I ir Gorbaciovo. Bet negaliu suprasti, kodel reiketu ju vardus pasalinti, nes butent ju valdoma valstybe vykde represijas ir pan. Suprantu yra daug atlikieju ir slaptu uzsakovu, bet valstybes vadovas, kuris tam tikru ivykiu metu tyli ir nesugeba be dviprasmybiu pasakyti:" - As nepritariu (arba sustabdau) ivykius kurie kenkia tam tam ir tam... " - prisiima atsakomybes nashta kartu su tu ivykiu vykdytojais ir uzsakovais. Tokios Europietiskos etikos taisykles. O atskirus veikejus kaip Muravjovas gal ir Suvoravas, etc. butinai paminesiu, tiesiog laiko trukumas.
Del Dobrynes ir Kalavijuociu ordinu tu ir vel teisus - vienas nespejo pradeti savo veiklos, kitas nebepajege isskleisti savo sparnu "erelio skrydziui" ... taciau ... mhh ... abu pirmieji kardu pradejo skleisti Evangelija, atsikele i jiems apgaules ir kt. budais paskirtas zemes, kuriuos niekada nepriklause Sv. Romos imperijai. Abieju ordinu veiklos statute buvo priesakas kautis su pagonimis ir kardu skleisti evangelija (progai pasitaikius paskelbsiu ju statutus lotynu k.), tik kai ju galybe buvo palauzta popiezius ir Romos imperijos imp. is Jeruzales atsiunte profesionalus zudikus su identishku statutu bet patobulinta politine programa. Taigi Prusu (apskritai visiems baltams ir slavams) nelaimes prasidejo pasirodzius pirmajam kariniam Kataliku b. Ordinui (nors ir vel, uz viso sito slypi politika ir pinigai, bet konretus zmones dare sprendimus, tai zinokime bent ju vardus) vienam prie Prusu, kitam prie Lybiu (Latviu).
Dar karta aciu uz pataisymus. Pameginsiu pazvelgti atidziau i Byla, gal padaryti kai kuriuos pakeitimus.
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Kurkime istorij... ar propagand? Vikingo svetains trkumai ir privalumai pagal Vilkolak :-)
Autorius: Vilkolakis, Nov/6/2002 04:29:42 [+02]
Patiko S. Tarvydo veikalas "Indoeuropieiai" - nors iek tiek ir pasens, bet svarbu, kad jis yra Tinkle ir visiems prieinamas.

Labai gerai, kad Tinkle yra bent jau itraukos i Vijko-Kojalaviiaus ir Daukanto darb, bet noriau, kad bt pilni tekstai - megjams, kaip a, jie neprieinami.

vadas apie "...lietuvi, emaii, auktaii, dzk, suvalkiei, latvi, jau inykusiu prs, jodviei (jotvingi), krivi, palauci, rugij, sarmat, skit, heruli ir kit balt kilties bei genties ak..." - nors sraas ir ilgokas, bet nesimato latgali. O po jotvingi ivardintijei, berods, visai ne baltai, bent jau nra joki rodym, vien tik spelions ir irov pageidavimai. :-)

"Byla"... Kaip istorin "suvestin" neturi jokios reikms - kartais meluoja, danai netiksli (r. Tomo Baranausko komentar). Taiau gali susidaryti spdis, kad dl vis Lietuvos bd kalti vien tik KITI - atseit, mes zuikiai, o aplink vien tik vilkai :-), be j emje siviepataut Rojus, bent jau Lietuvos teritorijoje.

Prie srao galima dar pridti ir Mindaug (kodl gi ne, juk prie j buvo susijung su rusais ir polovieiai, ir jotvingiai, netgi emaiiai sukilo - reikia negeras buvo), ir Vytaut (kuris savo veikla arba neveiklumu arba dl proto trkumo (Vorskla) nusiunt Anapilin turbut tiek LDK gyventoj, kiek visi carai kartu pamus).

Dar galima pridti tlo Anieliausko nuomon, kad per 1991-2001 mm. Lietuvoje nusiud daugiau moni, negu buvo nuauta Dugavilio valdymo laikais.

Ar reikia?

Trumpai tariant, Vikinge, imesk tu t nelemt byl, ir dk geriau vietoj jos "Kodl Lietuva yra tokia, kokia yra, ir kam ji turi bti u tai dkinga"
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Dvejoju
Autorius: vikingas, Nov/6/2002 13:07:16 [+02
Zinai, si skyreli pradejau dvejodamas, nes supratau - tai subjektyvu (raso visgi su Lietuva susijes zmogus). Tiesiog tai eksperimentas ir jeigu jis bus nevykes ash ji pashalinsiu. Taciau, man kaip "zuikiui" svarbu kad priesh 300 metu pralaimejusi (sunaikinta) valstybe visgi turi savo testinuma, privalu zinoti buvome ir "vilkais", manau reikia atgauti pasitikejima savo jegomis ir suvokti testinuma musu istorijos, valstybingumo, tradiciju, etc. Negali taip praeiti tie engimo metai be pedsaku, vienokiomis ar kitokiomis formomis nepasitenkinimas buvusiais "sheimininkais" islenda ir ishlys musu tautoje, todel apsisaugoti nuo radikaliu protrukiu arba busimu konfliktu reiktu apibrezti svarbiausius "vilkus" ir jiems atleisti pamirshtant kas buvo, kad butu galima kurti ateiti taikioje bendradarbiavimo atmosferoje, o ne nepasitikejimo ir dvejoniu apsuptyje. Tiesiog noriu pameginti kartu su jumis visais apibrezti didz. skaudulius musu istorijoje ir pasakyti zaizdos uzgijo, "zuikis" pasveiko ir ramiai grauzia morkas savo "bijunu" darzelyje, o ylos maishe nepaslepsi niekada, ka megino padaryti daugelis. Ka manai vilkolaki?
Apie Daukanto, Kojelaviciaus kurinius - jeigu rashciau finansu, parengciau pilnai naujus vertimus lietuvishkai, o dabar padariau ka galejau. Tiesa ruosiu knyga sausio, vasario men. turetu pasirodyti koks 100 egz. Skirtingai nuo webo tai bus pataisytas var. su originalia terminologija, pataisyta chronologija. Ankstesniame lietuvishkame Kojalaviciaus vertime daugelis vardu ir vietovardziu versti ne i tema, nemazai datu ir ivykiu praleista, tai butent tai kas buvo praleista bus siame leidinyje.
Aivaras
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balt tautos ir gentys
Autorius: arnas, Nov/6/2002 18:02:42
-odis ir ratai byloja, tai yra pasakoja, liudija apie lietuvi, emaii, auktaii, dzk, suvalkiei,

Dl dzk dar gal galima ginytis ar tai atskiros genties vardas, taiau tai suvalkiei terminas tai jau tikrai tra 19 amiaus darinys. Beje, atkreipkite dmes, Suvalk trikampio lietuviai beveik vien tik dzkai. Jei jau norite kakaip t krat paminti, raykite sudviai. O tai tai i dar Ptolemjaus minta gentis irgi inyko i js srao.

-latvi, jau inykusiu prs, jodviei (jotvingi), krivi, palauci, rugij, sarmat, skit, heruli ir kit balt kilties bei genties ak diding praeit.

Na, latviai, tarkime, latgaliai, taiau prapuol kuriai (kas kad dalis j patapo paiais tikriausiais ir kariausiais emaiiais), emgaliai, sliai. Pagaliau, galindai.
Palaucius (polovcus) baltus ra lenk kronikininkai (domu, kodl iame forume niekas klausim taip ir neatsak). iaip tai buvo tiurk tauta. Sarmatai (nepaisant kakada Lenkijoje popuiliarios sarmatizmo ideologijos) bei skitai irann grups tautos. Herulai germanai. Dl krivi (krivii) dar galima ginytis, taiau 12 a pradioje tai jau slav gentis. ia gal geriau bt tiesiog usiminti apie baltus rytuose, kurie inyko nepalik istorijai netgi savo geni pavadinim.
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dekui
Autorius: vikingas, Nov/6/2002 20:43:46 [+02]

Dekui,kai kuriuos pavadinimus jau pakeiciau.
Del heruliu germanishkumo abejoju, manau tai tarpine grandis tarp baltu ir germanu. Heruliu tauta daug kas laiko traku tautos dalimis, veliau pavadinta dakais, kurie virto danais. Ju kalbos pvz. ir amzininku aprasymu turiu t.p., bet vis laiko stoka neleidzia paskelbti situ rinkiniu. Sarmatai tai gal ir iranenai, bet dalis ju tikrai isiliejo i baltu gentis ir padare did. itaka baltu paribiuose su slavais ir trakais.
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Subject: kas naujo


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Date Posted: 01/12/04 13:08:37

kas naujo pas jus

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Subject: LDK uzsienio prekyba


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Date Posted: 11/15/03 15:00:22

Sweiki, turiu sioki toki prasyma, gal kas turit referatu ar sejp istorines medziagos apie LDK uzsienio prekyba, jei turite prasau jusu labai skirkite 2 min ir atsiuskyte man i e-mail'a.Taciau jei ir neturite vistiek butu malonu paskaityti jusu argumentuotus pasvarstymus sia tema.aciu.

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Subject: Istorija


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Date Posted: 10/ 3/03 08:42:53

GAl kas zino, kada Kietuva tapo Didvalstybe ir gal kas turi medziagos apie Lietuvos vardo kilme?

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Subject: Gal kas zinot kada mire paskutinis krivis?is anksto aciu:}


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Date Posted: 07/11/03 17:15:13

Prasau padekite. Gal kas zino kada mire Lietuvoje paskutinis krivis?as zinau tik tiek kad ji sudegino kryziuociai, bet man reikia bent apytiksles datos. is karto aciuuuu:}

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Subject: Ar ms protviai buvo atsilik nuo kit taut?


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TAIRA
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Date Posted: 07/ 1/03 17:47:30

Danai girdiu, kad Lietuvos krate gyveno primityvs barbarai, atsilik ir baiss pagonys. Es aukodav mones ir gyvnus...
Ar yra tikr rodym?
Gal kas gali apginti ms emse gyvenusius mones ir parayti apie juos k nors graaus ir neinomo???

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Subject: Apie lietuvius ir lietuvybes ypatumus


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Date Posted: 05/ 9/03 09:37:50

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Lietuvio bruozai ar tik ypatumai igyti per ~300 m. okupacija?

Visa lietuviu gyvenima tvarko valdzia ir jei lietuvis gyvena blogai, vadinasi bloga yra valdzia
Bloga valdzia isrenka kiti
Nuo tikro lietuvio visiskai nepriklauso ka isrinks i valdzia, todel jis neina balsuoti
Lietuviai tiki, kad valdzia tik plesia pinigus ir nieko kito nedaro
Visa valdzia - banditai
Lietuvis valdzioje galvoja, kad visos problemos tik del to, kad mokesciai per mazi
Valdzios lietuvis tiki kontrabandos nebuvimu.

Trumpas zinynelis nepazistantiems lietuviu

Apie tikejima

Lietuviai visada laukia kol jiems ka nors duos (valdzia arba teleloto)
Lietuviai netiki bankais, valdzia, amerika, litu, kaimynais, draugais, nuolaidomis ir biznieriais
Lietuviai tiki pasaulio pabaiga, geru prezidentu, laikrasciais ir televizoriais

Lietuviskas pastovumas

Tikras lietuvis mokosi viena karta gyvenime ir dirba viena darba
Tikras lietuvis nemoka pakeisti darbo
Tikras lietuvis dirba mylima darba net ir nemokamai

Ryztingas problemu sprendimas

Vienas lietuvis visas problemas sprendzia susimazindamas kraujo slegi galvoje (t.y. kilpa ant kaklo)
Daug lietuviu savo problemas sprendzia lauzais, badavimu, blokavimu ir susideginimais
Lietuviai policininkai nesikaria - Jie nusisauna darbo vietoje

Zemes ukis

Zemes ukis lietuviui - sventas
Lietuviai kile is indu, todel karve lietuviams - sventa
Lietuviams dar sventi yra grudai, cukriniai runkeliai, bulves ir kiauliena
Viena karta pradejes auginti karves ar grudus turi juos
auginti visa gyvenima
Zemdirbio darbas sventas, todel jam pinigus reikia aukoti kaip baznyciai

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Subject: Generalinio policijos komisaro pasalinimas Lietuvoje


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Date Posted: 04/10/03 11:49:39

Istraukos is "Delfi"

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Marazmui ne!!!!, 2003 04 10 13:21
GERBIAMI POLICIJOS PAREIGNAI IR GEROS VALIOS

PILIEIAI!

Esame liudininkai analogo neturinio fakto, kada, nepateikus aiki pagrind, nualinamas nuo pareig
aukiausias Lietuvos Policijos pareignas - generalinis komisaras Vytautas Grigaraviius.

Mums, policininkams, generalinis komisaras Vytautas Grigaraviius yra tikras policijos pareigno pavyzdys.
Jis nepriekaitingai atlikdamas savo pareigas rod itikimyb Lietuvos monms ir pasirinktai profesijai.
Tai - kompetentingas profesionalas, kuriam tarnyba tapo gyvenimo bdu, savs realizacija pasirinktam tauriam gyvenimo bdui.
Tai - pareignas, kuris neirint didelio uimtumo visada jautrus ir dmesingas bet kokio rango policijos pareignams:
nuo eilinio iki vyriausiojo komisaro, jam nesvetimi j rpesiai ir problemos. Tai mogus, kuriam svetima puikyb ir arogancija.

Lietuvos policija , vadovaujama Vytauto Grigaraviiaus, pasiek l kovoje su organizuotu nusikalstamumu Panevio apskrityje,
pradtas rengti analogikas smgis Kauno, Klaipdos ir kit region nusikaltliams. Daug padaryta kuo racionaliau ir efektyviau
panaudojant policijos mogikuosius ir materialinius resursus, vykdant policijos sistemos reform, prisitaikant veikti
naujomis slygomis: integracijai Europos ali teistumo sistem bei tuoj sigaliojantiems naujiems baudiamosios teiss
ir baudiamojo proceso teiss statymams.

Nekelia abejoni, kad Generalinio Komisaro nualinimas stengimasis gyvendinti neskaidrius atitinkam asmen, turini
tak auktiems valdios pareignams, interesus,sutrukdyti Lietuvos policijai toliau stiprti ir vystyti skming kov
su nusikaltliais, pakenkti vis auganiam visuomens pasitikjimui Policija.

Generalinio Komisaro nualinimas daro didel neigiam poveik vis pareign nusiteikimui kuo kruopiau ir
siningiau atlikti patikt misij ir ksinasi sugriauti tai, k depolitizuota Lietuvos policija pasiek Nepriklausomybs metais.

Gerbdami ir brangindami tai ,k mes visi sunkiai pasiekme, ir vardan mums patikto valstybs ir moni saugumo, bkime solidars ir vieningi!

Kaip bet kuris demokratins valstybs pilietis, mes ,policijos pareignai , negalime streikuoti ir ieiti gatves,
reikalaudami teisingumo, tad kvieiame mums visiems priimtin akcij:
nuo .m. balandio mn. 10d. 8.00.val ieikime tarnyb ir vykdykime pareigas be uniformini kepuri. Akcij tskime
iki tol ,kol nugals sveikas protas bei teisingumas
ir Generalinis Komisaras Vytautas Grigaraviius bus atstatytas pareigas.

Gerbiami Lietuvos mons , bkite solidars su savos alies Policija, atleiskite, kad vykdydami pareigas
paeisime tarnybins uniformos taisykles ir nedvsime kepuri,
patikkite,-tai darysime vardan stabilumo policijoje ir vardan visos alies ir kiekvieno Js saugumo.

Policijos pareignai

Nuomone:
Ain't, 2003 04 10 13:18
Vienas faktas. Jau koki metai i Svedija plusta milziniska psichotropiniu vaistu- rohipnolo- kontrabanda
is Rusijos per Lietuva. Gabenami didziuliai kiekiai, daugiausia Klaipedos ir Talino keltais. Akivaizdu,
kad tai jau sisteminga ir gerai organizuota narkotiku industrija. Kadangi per ta laika Lietuvoje nebuvo
nustatytas nei vienas su tuo susijes veikejas (svedijos policija taip teige spaudoje), aisku kad organizacija
turi gera priedanga policijoje ir muitineje.
Panasu kad Grigaravicius kazkam buvo neparankus?

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Subject: Karas Irake


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Date Posted: 04/ 4/03 09:50:44

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Visa tiesa apie pacifistus, 2003 04 04 12:02
Europos pacifistai stipriai susikompromitavo dar prie Antrj pasaulin kar, puol rodinti, kad negalima kovoti su naciais ir kad jie anksiau ar vliau inyks savaime. Naciai, kaip inia, niekur neinyko ir demokratinms pasaulio galybms teko karo pabaigoje naudoti iaip jau i humanizmo pozicij nepateisinam smurt naikinant naci imperijos simbolinius ir realios ekonomins bei politines galios centrus - kartu su civiliais ir tikrai niekuo nenusidjusiais gyventojais.

Nesvarbu, kad Soviet Sjunga, uoliai rmusi ir dosniai finansavusi visus Vakar Europos pacifist sjdius (jau n neminint jos tiesiogiai ilaikom taking, anaiptol ne aislini Pranczijos ir Italijos kompartij), ne tik nuolat ginklavosi, bet ir vien po kito pasaul leido kriminalinius, bet jai lojalius ir paklusnius reimus (Saddamo Husseino reimas yra vienas i j).

Nenuostabu, kad garsusis angl nonkonformistas, didysis politins kairs raytojas George'as Orwellas dal Vakar pacifist apibdino kaip savs iki galo nesuvokusius skmingo smurto ir juos knijani brutali reim garbintojus. Jis taikliai paymjo, kad pacifist nejaudino smurtas ir masins nekalt moni udyns Meksikoje, Vengrijoje ar paioje Soviet Sjungoje. Juos jaudino j pai ali atsakas, pagrstas karine jga. Kitaip tariant, juos jaudino j ali teis gintis nuo totalitarini ir kit brutali reim.

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Subject: Diskusija Delfyje: "Politikas silo keisti Europos emlap "


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diskusijos apie Potsdamo konferencijoje laikinam administravimui perduotas zemes.
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Date Posted: 02/ 4/03 12:11:43

Diskusija Delfyje apie Prusija, perduota Potsdamo konferincijoje laikinai adminstruoti Lenkijai ir Maskvai.
Visa diskusija:
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marazmatika, tikriesiems delfio istorikams, 2003 02 03 15:04
leisiu sau pastebeti.
daug prirasyta apie kulikovo musius, rusus, lietuvius, algirda, prusu gentis, kas ko daugiau ispjove ir tt. taciau siuo atveju gausi faktologija naudojama klaidingam argumentavimui siekiant irodyti tam tikra kaliningrado teritorijos teorini priklausomuma.
pirmiausia, kalbama apie etnini rysi su lietuviais, taciau kada etninis rysys politikoje turejo reiksme? jei jau norite kalbeti apie teritorijos ir tautos rysi, tai bent nuspreskite, kada etnosas tapo tauta, tada darykite isvadas. juk tiek rusai sekmingai save laike lietuviais, tiek lietuviai save lenkais - kaip patogiau tam tikru momentu. norint testi panasia diskusija, kad iki 19 a pb apie jokia lietuviu tauta, tuo labiau teritorija kalbos buti negalejo( nekalbu apie slektu tauta),. kaip ir apie vokiecius iki bismarko (tik apie saksonus, bremeno, dresdeno ir tt gyventojus), kaip ir apie rusus ta prasme, kokia mes sias auksciau isvardintas ir i kaliningrada bepretenduojancias tautas suprantame dabar.
todel manau beviltiski yra komentarai apie maurus-mongolus, totorius, rusu, lietuvius, lenkus, vokiecius - prasmes cia nera, nes ne priklausymas tautai(etnosui) o vasaliniai santykiai leme teritorijos pasidalinima.
siais laikais visa tai pakeite visagaliai politiniai-ekonominiai interesai. todel siulau diskusija kaip beviltiska risti.

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vikingas, vikingas@yahoo.com, 2003 02 03 16:55
www.vikingas.btinternet.co.uk/istorija /video/
Apsilankykite, paziurekite ... . Vieno lietuvio (A.Gustaicio)
nuomone apie etnografines lietuviu ir baltu zemes bei
Potsdama. Aciu asdf.
Marazmatikas - eina kalba apie viena Lietuvos valstybe ir jos testinuma, na sakykime nuo pirmo paminejimo 1009 metais.
Valstybe, teritorija, pilieciai (kuriu buvo ir lenku ir rusu
ir zemaiciu ir lietuviu ir zydu ir t.t. kaip jie norejo taip
vadinosi:). O jei galimybe yra Maskolius uz "kiausiu" suimti
tai ir suimsime :) Tuo labiau, kad ju dar laukia Haagos
tribunolas uz nusikaltimus ir genocida vidurio Europoje.
marazmatikas... ? Tu taip megini patikrinti musu zinias apie
istorija ar megini paskelbti "maskoliu" iskreipta XIX a.
vidurio Europos istorija? Tarp kitko XVIII - XXa. vidurio
Europos istorija butina perrasyti, nes Germanu - Austru ir
Maskoliu pastangomis visa sio laikotarpio istorija buvo
iskreipta ir perdirbta pateisinti ju Lenkijos - Lietuvos,
Cekijos ir t.t. okupacijai.

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marazmatika, vikingui, 2003 02 04 10:18
viespateliau tu mieliausias, koks tu naivus idealistas. gal net istorija studijuoji. atsakau ir manau, kad, kaip paskutinis komentaras, tures itakos visu vadinamuju zinovu bei siaip prasalieciu nuomonei.
sakiau ir sakau, meskit is galvos tas rozines svajones apie idelistine LDK valstybes santvarka, baltu vienybe, lietuviu tautos kaip baltu vienytojos ir gynejos vaidmeni. LDK ir lietuviai (LDK lietuviu politine prasme net nebuvo!) niekada nebuvo baltu gynejai ta prasme, kuria cia daugelis is jusu bando vaizduoti. LDK strategine kryptis niekada nebuvo baltu suvienijimas, o tai, kad Mindaugas bande baltus vienyti, kaip kad megstama musuose sakyti, tebuvo tik desperatiskos pastangos plesti savo domena. ir jam tai pavyko. LDK niekada neturejo strategines krypties i vakarus, sia prasme mes daugiau "politiniu" teisiu turime i gardina, polocka, vitebska ar netgi latgala, tik ne i exkaraliauciaus krasta. lietuviai sekmingai pjaudavo vokieciu neispjautu prusu genciu likucius, o dar neispjauti likuciai sekmingai pjaudavo zemaicius, upytes, merkines zmones ir tt.
vikinge, kalbi apie maskoliu iskreipta vidurio europos istorija. na ka as cia galiu pasakyti. niekuo neparemti argumentai, i tokius atsakyti tikrai net nesiruosiu. tavo polinki stipriai i desine as jauciu ir manau jaucia visi. maziau skaityk N.Davies ir kitu apologetu apie vidurio rytu europa postringgaujanciu is lindono, oxfordo ir tt. istorija sakai perrasyti... dar vienas raseiva, perrasinejantis istorija? gustaiti skaitai, gal dar ir gedgauda? skaiciau ir as, nesamone, ner ka komentuot.
dar karta kvieciu problemos nevertinti is idealistiniu paziuru, o vertinti pragmatiskai. dabar teritorijos etnines priklausomybes modelis visiskai neveikia, veikia helsinkio susitarimai, galingieji galinguju politiniai-ekonominiai interesai. taip kad, baikim svaigti, lietuva, net jei turetu tiksla paveldeti kada nors kaliningrada, butu trecios eiles paveldetojas. TASKAS.

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vikingas, 2003 02 04

Marazmatike, kadangi sitoje diskusijje daug taskeliu padeta, manau tavo yra vienas is daugtaskiu eiluteje. Kiek suprantu esi vienas is Lietuvos istorijos shulu kokiame nors universitete arba apylinkeje. Nenuostabu, kad stipriai lenki i kaire. Maziau pasiduok Markso, Lenino ir Stalino teorijoms, o gal juos net ir skaitai? Ir as skaiciau, bet nesamone, ner ka komentuoti. Cia muzu pozicijos skiriasi, o tavo nuomonei apie Gedgauda 80% pritariu, apie Gustaiti gal 50%. O apie perrasyma vidurio Europos istorijos - tai bene pats busi parashes ka nors tokio? Gaila, kad tavo zvilgsnis nureiptas i Maskvos zvaigzdes ir gaila, kad tavo istorija baigsis su tavimi, na gal liks bibliotekuose. O argumentai apie butinuma perrasyti maskoliu ir kitu iskreipta istorija - tai mazdaug metu begyje, su jais gales susipazinti visi lietuviai. Tik nemegink sakyti, kad 1795 metai buvo savanoriskas isijungimas i Maskovijos (jau pavogusios Rusios pavadinima), Vokietijos ir Austrijos imperijas, kaip ir 1939 1940 metai.

LDK kas tai? Tautinis junginys ar valstybe jungianti tautas? Man tai valstybe jungianti tautas, o ja sunaikinus likuciai patapo Lietuva, dirbtinai Lietuvos etnografines zemese sukurta Baltarusija ir nukasti (perduoti laikinai administracijai Potsdamo konferencijoje) Lenkijai (ir Maskoliams) Suvalkai bei Prusai. Tarp kitko gal gali pateikti dokumentus apie LDK kariu pjaunamus Prusus? Kiek zinau kentejo tik vokieciu kolonistai ir tie kurie palaike juos. Siaip tai budavo atvirkstinis procesas, prusai arba pasitraukdavo kartu su LDK kariais (veliau vokieciai juos jega megindavo susigrazinti) arba sukildavo. Aisku prioritetai Lietuvos kunigaiksciu buvo nukripti i sauletekio puse, kas padejo nudienos Rusijai netapti Mongolija, deja Maskovija tapo autokratines ir diktatoriskos Mongolijos politines sistemos tradiciju teseja. Is cia ir paslaptinga ruskaja ducha, politine subrendo Mongoliskoje Maskvoje, kulturine Rusijoje, kaip LDK dalyje arba LDK ir Graiku itakoje. Lenkai katalikai cia viska sujauke ir multinacionaline ir multikulturine valstybe buvo uzprogramuota zlugimui. Kas po ~250< ir atsitiko.
Vertinant pragmatiskai Lietuva yra LDK tradiciju teseja ir paveldetoja. Lietuva - tai valstybe laike ir istorijoje, ne vadovelyje, su visomis is to kylanciomis pasekmemis. Lietuva tai daugiau ne tautybe, o ideja apie ateiti ir jos realizavima vidurio Europoje. Todel mano pasiulymas - nesizvalgyti is kur Saule teka ir kur leidziasi, o sustoti ir pradeti veikti ten kur ji sviecia, ten mes turime dirbti ir ten mes turime statyti ateiti. Geresnes progos istorines neteisybes ir zalos atitaisymui mes neturesime kaip dabar. Reikia imti jauti uz ragu (Lenkija, Vokietija, Maskolius). Potsdamo konferencijoje 50-ciai metu patvirtinta Baltisku krastu laikinoji administracija baigesi. Tarkimes kartu su Vokieciais ir Lenkais apie to krasto statusa ir tuo paciu paduokime i Haagos tribunola Maskva uz 300 metus (na bent uz paskutinius 50 metu) vykdyta okupacija, bei pareikalaukime kompensacijos. Tai skamba kaip absoliuti utopija? Bet tai yra tiesa. Ir ja isnaudokime ... (ne taskas)

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